TESLA finally launches a truck/semi ? AND some solarpower in PUERTO RICO.

[3roomlab]

looks like its coming to a street somewhere soon ... 2019 he says

but gets somewhat bad review on FOXNEWS?
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/fox-news-real-truckers-opinion-about-tesla-semi

as of this moment, there is no dedicated page on TESLA site on the truck, but only a short launch video on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=EgIYAg%253D%253D&search_query=tesla+truck

specs as of this moment (or lack of)
0-60mph (+80k lbs load) 20s
500mi range

[rx8pilot]

I love the technology development but am also dubious about the ability to supply the massive number of batteries and electronics without creating a problem similar to fossil fuels. For these idea to make an impact that Elon seems to be hoping for - generation and storage of power has to improve dramatically and somehow humanity will have to avoid going to war over the various rare and critical minerals needed.

[CM800]

the page is here: https://www.tesla.com/semi/

[martinator]

Musk stinks. Enlarged anal glands.

[bd139]

Coal fired trucks!

[Jeroen3]

Tesla notes on its website that the semi-truck will consume “less than 2 kWh / mile”. If we’re to factor in a worst case scenario of 2 kWh of energy used per mile travelled, this would equate to 800 kWh of energy consumed in 400 miles (644 km) of travel. Tesla’s Megacharger would need to have a tremendous power output of 1.6 MW, or thirteen times the power level of a standard Supercharger to be able to replenish 400 miles of battery range in 30 minutes. This, of course, is based on the assumption that the Tesla Semi will consume 2 kWh of energy per mile which in reality will probably be less, as Tesla notes.

That would be a problem challenge.

[floobydust]

It's just an electric vehicle application being upscaled.
Bigger motors, bigger batteries, bigger chargers. Kind of meh.

Savings with regen would be excellent compared to the Jake Brake.

I can see Musk trying to get the technology out there, commonplace.
But good old lithium...

[CM800]

Tesla notes on its website that the semi-truck will consume “less than 2 kWh / mile”. If we’re to factor in a worst case scenario of 2 kWh of energy used per mile travelled, this would equate to 800 kWh of energy consumed in 400 miles (644 km) of travel. Tesla’s Megacharger would need to have a tremendous power output of 1.6 MW, or thirteen times the power level of a standard Supercharger to be able to replenish 400 miles of battery range in 30 minutes. This, of course, is based on the assumption that the Tesla Semi will consume 2 kWh of energy per mile which in reality will probably be less, as Tesla notes.

That would be a problem challenge.

Now, that's something I'd like to see a teardown on.

[mariush]

For anyone curious, there's actually a competitor that uses batteries AND hydrogen called Nikola One : https://nikolamotor.com/one

They have specs and everything on the page I linked to above

According to some people on forums and truckers with Youtube channels, this one is more realistic than the Tesla truck (and longer range, Tesla's seems more like small trips and back to company yard at end of day).

as for Tesla (the presentation in 9 minutes for those that are too lazy to check the site):

[expinkolator]

I am amazed they can fit a 500mile battery in a prime mover.

What makes you think they have?

I was amazed they could swap a model S battery in 90 seconds.



But 4 years later is seems it was only once for show (and if memory serves to be able to screw some more taxpayer $ out of California).

[Falcon69]

The real joke here is that the truck driver gets any say in what he drives. He's not the one paying the fuel or maintenance bills the vast majority of the time, the company is - and the company will try to save money however they can.

This is not true. the driver has two choices.

1. He can quit and goto work for another company, or
2. He can take the lease option and go with a different truck and stay within the company.

I worked for 3 companies driving, and in each company, they had a leasing option.  I was able to choose between different models of truck I wanted to drive. I actually made more money leasing, than I did working for the company as just straight by the mile pay.

Here in the US, almost every trucking company (the big ones anyway), have a leasing option and you can choose from a number of tractors you'd rather own/drive.

[wraper]

According to some people on forums and truckers with Youtube channels, this one is more realistic than the Tesla truck (and longer range, Tesla's seems more like small trips and back to company yard at end of day).

Rather completely unrealistic. Extreme hydrogen cost will kill it before they even sell any. No company will buy truck which is not economical to use.

[expinkolator]

Amazing to me that someone in the Netherlands would be worrying about poor little California missing out on some tax revenue.

I don't care about Californians. I was just pointing out the disconnect between flashy Musk video presentations and reality.

Reality is there are likely not enough dumb investors left to keep Tesla afloat long enough to put these semis into production.

[JPortici]

The real joke here is that the truck driver gets any say in what he drives. He's not the one paying the fuel or maintenance bills the vast majority of the time, the company is - and the company will try to save money however they can.

here in italy there are a lot of truck drivers which own their trucks, are self employed and they get contract from other companies to move stuff around

regarding the tesla truck i am
- impressed that they could achieve such mileage with a single charge (just about what one truck driver is allowed to drive in a single shift)
- curious about the actual mileage.. or to be more specifing for how long it will be able to keep that mileage
- disgusted by the design. they can make good looking cars and this truck is a monstrosity.

[filssavi]

I'd like to see how the range holds up when the thinlg is fully loaded with 44 tons of stuff is attached to this truck...

Also 1.6 MW for each charger?? That will no doubt put a huge stress on the power grid if they are to have more than few trucks charging per city

[Jeroen3]

I guess you'll have to buy Tesla battery containers to charge your truck.

[tszaboo]

The most important questions are not addressed:
- Does the self-driving has a setting, where it drives just enough on the other side of the road to drive the other cars off the road? Does it have random metal parts extending to hit everything missed by the rest of the truck?
- Can it park illegally? Can you unload the cargo in rush hour on the main street?
- Does the UI come in polish?
- Does it automatically hit cyclist in the dead zones? You know, to educate the remaining cyclists?
- Does it auto-jettison some of the bricks it is carrying?
- Does it have way too much annoying yellow blinkies? Telling you that I'm driving slow, but that's OK< because I have blinkies!

In center position, how can the driver get a sunburn on his left arm? This is a huge oversight.

[bd139]

I'd like to see how the range holds up when the thinlg is fully loaded with 44 tons of stuff is attached to this truck...

Also 1.6 MW for each charger?? That will no doubt put a huge stress on the power grid if they are to have more than few trucks charging per city

There is a discrepancy of units here. The article josses around between KWh and then MW, losing the time component. I haven't read it properly yet so this could be rubbish.

[Jeroen3]

I don't think it's right either. The plug has to be 10kV or something to do that.
We'll just have wait for Tesla to publish this.

[Miyuki]

Why they want to replace diesel engine in single reasonable use?
Engine at highway steady use can easy work at 50% efficiency or more with all filters working with almost no emissions
Problem is slow jumping trough cities where combustion engine have poor efficiency and lot of emissions

[DenzilPenberthy]

... because a lot of trucks spend most of their time doing multi-drop work around cities...

[3roomlab]

it would be interesting if TESLA makes a "public transportation bus" version, a bendy one with a CD of 0.36?

[Bashstreet]

Electric cars are a joke 

[wraper]

Electric cars are a joke 

I a way they jokingly outperform ICE cars?

[Bashstreet]

Electric cars are a joke 

I a way they jokingly outperform ICE cars?

No i mean they are joke in terms of resources pollutants and feasibility.