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Offline slateraptor

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2012, 09:22:16 AM »
Sorry, typo, error corrected.  That should be 10c a page, not 1c.  That's based on Kinkos B&W per page price, typically the price is more.

http://faq.bloglines.com/ref/Kinko%27s-Prices.html

If you own a personal laser printer, chances are its original makers cartridge would sell between $50-100 each, for ~ 3000 pages; that would be about 3c page, or $30.  YMMV depending if you can use remanufactured cartridges or refill original ones.


Indeed, printing can be quite painful on the wallet...especially when you're paying someone else to do it. Good thing Uncle Sam usually keeps a healthy supply of printer ink on benchstock.  ;)

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2012, 11:36:05 PM »
Amen to that!  Refilling an original manufacturer brand new cartridge only cost $4 for another 3000 pages, and it works well on the 1st refill, but I don't get it past 3 refills without glitches in the printing mechanism, usually smudges and ink blobs.  We've had very bad luck buying re-manufactured cartridges from consolidators, these are 'pros' who buy used cartridges, refill them and sell them at a discount, in the end it costs the same as DIY.  I end up extending an original cartridge 3x its intended lifespan, so an $80 one is $80/3 +$4 for toner ~ $31 per 3000 pages from an original cartridge, re-manufactured ones cost about $35-40 each, but my labor ;) .
 

Indeed, printing can be quite painful on the wallet...especially when you're paying someone else to do it. Good thing Uncle Sam usually keeps a healthy supply of printer ink on benchstock.  ;)
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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2013, 12:16:10 AM »
Almost a year since the last update, so I emailed the author. He gracefully (and quickly!) replied:

"Moving along, still expanding.  Out sometime late this year.
 But you'll want to patch up and keep your 2nd edition, five
 good chapters plus lots of other important stuff there, that's
 gone from the 3rd edition."



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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2013, 01:53:22 PM »
That makes me think about The Great Chinese Wall history.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2013, 02:25:58 PM »
Reminds me of when I was a kid and wanted some help with my brand new playstation and final fantasy 7, but didn't want to go back and forth from the TV to the computer, and so I printed up a 700 page FAQ to have with me while I played. Thankfully toner and paper were free from my dad's work.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #65 on: April 07, 2013, 07:59:38 AM »
There has'nt been a update in two month. can you give us some info?
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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #66 on: April 07, 2013, 11:01:55 AM »
There has'nt been a update in two month. can you give us some info?

jeesh, leave poor Win alone  :palm:

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #67 on: April 07, 2013, 11:41:22 AM »
Being the classic it is, printed on acid free paper would help.  My book pages are turning yellow.

Acid-free paper and spiral bound.  Books like this that will get a lot of use should always be spiral bound!

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2013, 09:37:29 AM »
Hello all,

I just emailed Winfield Hill about the status of the third edition of Art of Electronics and they've finished writing it.  They now in typesetting and it should be published by late spring/early summer next year (May 2014).

And it sounds like there will be a second volume to contain all the new material that wouldn't fit in the main work at a future date.

I also posted this and previous emails on G+ (https://plus.google.com/u/1/115596717128422510188/posts)

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Hello Mr. Hill,

I hope everything is going well for you this year.  I wanted to write once again to ask about the progress of the third edition of Art of Electronics.  When we spoke last year you said you were planning on cutting off writing new material at some point last year if the writing didn't finish soon. Have you finished writing and moved on to editing yet? 

Several people have contacted the publisher and have gotten responses to expect the book sometime around May 2014 (so a manuscript has been submitted and everyone is well into editing), but to me that feels like researcher's saying a new technology, like graphene transistors or brain to pc interfaces, should hit the market in the next 5-10 years. A great image, but not likely.

Where do you see the book in the pipeline? I'd like to share your opinion with the community again.

 The complete 15-chapter book has gone through copy-
 editing and we're doing our review pass now.  Then on
 to typesetting (editing of our TEX text, figure placement,
 etc) and then galleys, etc.   So next spring looks good.

 They will be an additional five chapter eXtension
 H&H AoE "x-chapter" book following in about a year
 with new advance materials.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2013, 10:26:50 AM »
Why didn't they just make it so it has everything the second edition plus more? The way they did it is like having one phone for text messages and another for phone calls or some other concept equally as stupid.  :palm:
I am an Electronics student and an Android Dev.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #70 on: September 05, 2013, 10:30:10 AM »
Presumably because there were bits of the 2nd edition that are now quite out of date? Having editions for 'core' and 'advance' materials means that you can keep reprinting the core forever, and only need to revise the advance bit as technology changes.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #71 on: September 05, 2013, 10:38:42 AM »
Presumably because there were bits of the 2nd edition that are now quite out of date? Having editions for 'core' and 'advance' materials means that you can keep reprinting the core forever, and only need to revise the advance bit as technology changes.

 "But you'll want to patch up and keep your 2nd edition, five
 good chapters plus lots of other important stuff there, that's
 gone from the 3rd edition."

If they were good chapters plus lots of other important stuff there, why wouldn't they add that to the third edition in a revised format?
I am an Electronics student and an Android Dev.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #72 on: September 05, 2013, 10:44:33 AM »
I'm guessing they don't like the length of it. ie physical size of the book if it were included.
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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #73 on: September 05, 2013, 10:50:52 AM »
I'm guessing they don't like the length of it. ie physical size of the book if it were included.

Well at least they could reference the second edition within the third edition. Such as: "You may find more information about [topic] in this chapter of the second edition." That way, the two books can easily be combined together with said references IMHO.
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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2013, 11:03:14 AM »
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Well at least they could reference the second edition within the third edition. Such as: "You may find more information about [topic] in this chapter of the second edition." That way, the two books can easily be combined together with said references IMHO.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do just that. At least in the foreword.


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