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Offline solarmist

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Hello all,

I just emailed Winfield Hill about the status of the third edition of Art of Electronics and they've finished writing it.  They now in typesetting and it should be published by late spring/early summer next year (May 2014).

And it sounds like there will be a second volume to contain all the new material that wouldn't fit in the main work at a future date.

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Hello Mr. Hill,

I hope everything is going well for you this year.  I wanted to write once again to ask about the progress of the third edition of Art of Electronics.  When we spoke last year you said you were planning on cutting off writing new material at some point last year if the writing didn't finish soon. Have you finished writing and moved on to editing yet? 

Several people have contacted the publisher and have gotten responses to expect the book sometime around May 2014 (so a manuscript has been submitted and everyone is well into editing), but to me that feels like researcher's saying a new technology, like graphene transistors or brain to pc interfaces, should hit the market in the next 5-10 years. A great image, but not likely.

Where do you see the book in the pipeline? I'd like to share your opinion with the community again.

 The complete 15-chapter book has gone through copy-
 editing and we're doing our review pass now.  Then on
 to typesetting (editing of our TEX text, figure placement,
 etc) and then galleys, etc.   So next spring looks good.

 They will be an additional five chapter eXtension
 H&H AoE "x-chapter" book following in about a year
 with new advance materials.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2013, 09:19:42 AM »
Sounds promising, but I'm not holding my breath. The third edition has been just around the corner since forever. Will see when they are actually shipping books. The x-chapter book sounds interesting, though.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2013, 09:38:58 AM »
True, but the uncertain part has always been the writing and that is now complete (for the main book), so the schedule could still slip by months, but it's no longer an issue of slipping by years any longer.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2013, 02:29:26 PM »
Great news. Typesetting and proof-reading that thing will still take a while.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2013, 03:59:14 PM »
Typesetting? Typesetting? They still do that in book publishing?  ???

I would have assumed that part of the printing process is fairly quick and automated now.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2013, 04:11:39 PM »
Mucking about with your latex to get it juuuust right can take some time every now and then. ;)

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2013, 04:11:59 PM »
Ha, I meant laying out the pages. Starting to show my age. Every little change that affects page length can have a flow-on effect which can be quite exponential.


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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2013, 08:01:26 PM »
Ha, I meant laying out the pages. Starting to show my age. Every little change that affects page length can have a flow-on effect which can be quite exponential.
Are you saying that by adding a picture to the text, the reassignment of page numbers, references etc.  takes more than 10 seconds on a computer?
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Re: Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2013, 08:06:55 PM »
Ha, I meant laying out the pages. Starting to show my age. Every little change that affects page length can have a flow-on effect which can be quite exponential.
Are you saying that by adding a picture to the text, the reassignment of page numbers, references etc.  takes more than 10 seconds on a computer?

No, but sometimes the physical number of pages is decided upon before final proofing which can cause problems.


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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2013, 08:46:03 PM »
Ha, I meant laying out the pages. Starting to show my age. Every little change that affects page length can have a flow-on effect which can be quite exponential.
Are you saying that by adding a picture to the text, the reassignment of page numbers, references etc.  takes more than 10 seconds on a computer?

As a graphic designer - the answer is yes, it does take more than 10 secs ;-)

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2013, 10:10:40 AM »
Ha, I meant laying out the pages. Starting to show my age. Every little change that affects page length can have a flow-on effect which can be quite exponential.
Are you saying that by adding a picture to the text, the reassignment of page numbers, references etc.  takes more than 10 seconds on a computer?

Yes, deciding on size, layout and exact position takes time for each graphic, that doesn't include creating the graphic itself, which is often just a placeholder while writing.  It could take hours for a single graph in the worst case.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2013, 08:27:38 PM »
My wife edits etc books, had a bit of a chuckle when I said that the text just flows automatically.

The problem is that people use Word. For a few dozen pages it works, you get 800 pages of text, pictures and maths then it screws up big time on a regular basis, every few hours. And recovering is not an easy or quick job. Seems Word also doesn't understand multiple files per book, it all has to be in one huge, 50MB, file. Crap. Why not use another wordprocessor? Well, ask the author, you get what you are given and Word unfortunately is it.

Then you get authors who lay an equation out using spaces and underscores and smaller font sizes for powers.

Doesn't seem to have progressed beyond what Ventura managed a couple of decades ago.

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2013, 06:27:19 AM »
Quite a few books have been hammered out by lone authors in a relatively short amount of time with DocBook ... I have a few books done that way, perfectly functional ... but not pretty :)

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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2013, 07:11:19 AM »
Do publishers really use Word for layout? Back when I was doing that stuff I would take the Word file, strip out all the formatting, import the text in DTP software, add formatting and place images. And yes, that would take more than 10 seconds ;).
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Re: The Art of Electronics 3rd edition finished writing and copy-editing
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2013, 10:53:04 AM »
I wrote an 800 page book on embedded system programming about 6 years ago and did it all in Word. The publisher took the Word files and put them into Adobe InDesign for printing. (In fact, the InDesign layout and editing was sub-contracted to a one person shop and it took her about a month to do the layout and produce a PDF proof and then incorporate my edits.)  The book had at least 200 drawings and photos, probably closer to 400, plus program snippets in different font and layout, etc.


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