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The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:02:09 am »
We have come to the conclusion that the Keysight waveform logo is NOT a thing.
Doesn't even have split rotational symmetry.
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2018, 08:10:34 am »
What you get from a cheap Chinese amplifier or signal generator. :-DD
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 08:21:58 am »
Not symmetric indeed (picture attached for those having trouble seeing it like me)

P.S. fun fact: keysight provides their logo nicely as a svg file on their website
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2018, 08:26:00 am »
That's what happens when the big boys bring in the consultants (a word that is sometimes shortened by removing the 'sultant' bit to reveal an inner truth  :P ). I bet the board then voted on it. It totally smacks of being designed by committee in order to cause absolutely no offence to anyone in the company's international markets. They might as well as gone from from Agilent to being Anodyne Systems Inc.
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 08:34:30 am »
You do realise that now when I stare at my DMM the lack of symmetry is going to poke me in the eye?

Going to have to buy another DMM now (poor excuse)  :-DD
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 08:53:30 am »
That's what happens when the big boys bring in the consultants (a word that is sometimes shortened by removing the 'sultant' bit to reveal an inner truth  :P ). I bet the board then voted on it. It totally smacks of being designed by committee in order to cause absolutely no offence to anyone in the company's international markets. They might as well as gone from from Agilent to being Anodyne Systems Inc.

I can picture the presentation from the consultant:
"The logo embodies synergy between the HP legacy and the new embodiment of the Keysight spirit and the relationship with their customers through a retro symbolic means."
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2018, 09:03:50 am »
Where does this discussion originate ?  :-//

Is it an OCD sensitive issue maybe ?
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2018, 09:23:16 am »
Why do I feel this is a great topic ;)
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2018, 09:26:27 am »
It's a graph of the fortunes of the company under successive CEOs.
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2018, 09:45:17 am »
You do realise that now when I stare at my DMM the lack of symmetry is going to poke me in the eye?

Going to have to buy another DMM now (poor excuse)  :-DD

Flog it now ..while the display is still bright and crisp 

 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2018, 09:48:09 am »
Dodged that bullet  :-DD It's a LCD jobby :)
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2018, 09:57:47 am »
Engineers talking about logo design. This should be good.  :popcorn:
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2018, 10:21:22 am »
Engineers talking about logo design. This should be good.  :popcorn:

If more engineers could stomach working in marketing departments I think it would be a great thing. I was a graphic designer for many years but got thoroughly sick of the whole marketing (read: lying for money) thing.

I do think it's odd that the HP name went with the computing side of the business when it split, rather than the test-gear side. I would have thought the newer technology would have fared better with a name change, but seeing as they seem to be doing/have done well enough as Agilent or Keysight. It still just smacks of marketing wank.
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2018, 10:28:55 am »
I was a graphic designer for many years but got thoroughly sick of the whole marketing (read: lying for money) thing.


What do you mean?
They most likely hired an "EXPERT" and told him what to do:

If you have not seen this, it is hilarious and sad.
As an engineer, we probably have all been in this situation




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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2018, 12:17:42 pm »
Am I the only person here who doesn't care?

It's not a bad logo, compared to other ones I've seen. It might not be the best, but it isn't the shittiest.
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2018, 01:06:44 pm »
Doesn't even have split rotational symmetry.
Making it asymetric and non repetitive was probably the only way they could work around the creation of conspiracy theories and maybe even improve the legal situation when it comes to counterfeit or copyright :-) Consider the logo being symetric and repetitive, then it would be harder to "protect", legally - without knowing too much about it. It is at least harder to explain why something is an exact copy.

The problem with the topic is.... only Keysight knows what that logo should express or should not express.  :palm:
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2018, 01:17:09 pm »
Take the bottom half of the waveform, flip it left to right.
Voila, it's an AM modulated signal.
 
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2018, 01:25:32 pm »
Take the bottom half of the waveform, flip it left to right.
Voila, it's an AM modulated signal.

I like that ... and it's the sort of thing I could see somebody doing as a quick graphic tweak.
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2018, 01:35:37 pm »
I would like to see an FFT performed on that waveform.  ;)
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2018, 04:57:06 pm »
Take the bottom half of the waveform, flip it left to right.
Voila, it's an AM modulated signal.

Even better, it's the envelope of the output of an extremely complex non-cyclic AM modulated arbitrary signal generator for the purposes of EMC testing.
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2018, 05:07:27 pm »
Or a DS1022Z with a particularly buggy firmware release.
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2018, 05:15:13 pm »
Making it asymetric and non repetitive was probably the only way they could work around the creation of conspiracy theories and maybe even improve the legal situation when it comes to counterfeit or copyright :-) Consider the logo being symetric and repetitive, then it would be harder to "protect", legally - without knowing too much about it. It is at least harder to explain why something is an exact copy.

The problem with the topic is.... only Keysight knows what that logo should express or should not express.  :palm:
I'm fairly sure it's an artistic choice. It's obviously supposed to relate to signals, but without it being a literal representation of a single specific signal. It basically represents the concept of a signal but not a literal signal. The lack of symmetry seems to be introduced to make it a bit more interesting to look at. Symmetry tends to be boring, especially when it's a fairly simple graphic already.

You may be right about it being harder to protect a more regular signal, though.
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2018, 05:43:41 pm »
Maybe the marketing team was having a go at predistortion.
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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2018, 06:17:57 pm »
We have come to the conclusion that the Keysight waveform logo is NOT a thing.
I'm wondering how the EEVblog crew came to that conclusion:
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

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Re: The Keysight Logo is NOT a thing
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2018, 07:59:27 pm »
You do realise that now when I stare at my DMM the lack of symmetry is going to poke me in the eye?

Going to have to buy another DMM now (poor excuse)  :-DD
You just need to find an Agilent sticker and rebadge your gear
 


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