Unicode

[Ampera]

Уитх тхис ниу сервер клустер тхат гниф мовед тхе форумс овер то, тхе форум ноу сеемс то хаве Уникоде суппорт. То тест, И ам тйпинг тхис мессаге фонетикаллй ин сйрилликс, халф бекаузе и консидер ит то бе коол, анд халф бекаузе и уас тоо лазй ин Руссиан класс то леарн анйтхинг елсе. И имагине то нативе Руссиан (ор симилар) спеакерс, тхис лоокс реаллй уеирд.

If I get complaints, and nobody knows what I'm on about, I can put that in Latin glyphs.

🕴️🕴️🕴️🕴️🕴️🕴️

[ataradov]

Well, this was something to read.

Тест. Русский.

Now we will see all the glory of that Asian spam we are getting from time to time.

[DimitriP]

ʎıʞǝs˙ ʇɥɐʇ ʍɐs ɐuuoʎıuƃ ʇo ɹǝɐp˙

[Cerebus]

Let us just hope that the advent of full UTF-8 support on the forum (Thanks Gnif!) doesn't cause an outbreak of even more incomprehensible garbage produced by the crowd whose proper punctuation to smiley ratio is the same as the tooth to tattoo ratio of some fiddle-playing horror movie hillbilly.

Meantime, it is with great pleasure that I can now say things like: ± 5µV/√Hz at 300°K …

[mariush]

L̶̛̈͋̀͛ͥ̃ͬ̐͊͐͡҉͚̥̥͎̠̬͚͉e̖͇̗̠̬͓̫̱̖̗͔͊͋̉̔̍̑̕͡ͅt̨̡̛̪͕̻͖͎̗̞̻̜͕̐̒̊̔̎ͮͫ̊͊̋̍͑̌ͅͅ'̦̭̦̮̯̺̲ͫ̊̒̆̀̚͜͜s̨̧̛͍͈̙̜͇̬̳͈̝̞̼͈̺̋ͭ̇̏ͯ ̛̈́͆ͥ͗̄̀ͣͯ̀͘͏͈̠̱͉̲̰̮̤͕̼̻̰̰̯̤j̨̪̖̝͈̜̠̙̺͂̌̓̀ͦͩ̐̌̆̈̊̈̃́͊ͪͨ͛͟ụ̶̭̳̙͈̪̪̘͚̝̻̤̱̠̭̩͗ͫ̔̇̎͗̓̑ͧͫ̃͒́ͥ͋͛̓̃ͯ̕ͅͅs̢̨̳͙̞̱̬ͫ̽̏̈́ͪ̄̑̀̀ͣͦͯ̚͘͞ţ̺͇̯̞̦̺̰͕͉͖̲̻̫̣̖̳̋͑ͦͣ͊͊̈́ͦ̂̚͘͢ͅ ̵̸̧̨͈̻͇̣ͩ̅͆̈ͦ͐̅͒̒ͫ͑ͫ͗͒̀̚ḫ̴͍̟̤̲̬̗̤̜͐̃͂ͫ̓ͨͣͬ̓o̢̝͎̮̝ͦ͊͋̽̓̀͟͝p̸̛̹̩͇̫̰̪͚͙̰̗̭ͫͨͤͦ̀̒͌͒͘ͅę̴̤̜̤͖̟̳̱͍͚̪̓̍̆ͨ̋ͫͪ̿͒́ͫ̂ͨ̔̚͢ ̸̴̶̨̖͙̟̖̣̭̪̆̍ͭͪͅͅp̓͋͆͏̴̢̮͍͓̪͚͇̲̞̟́e͔̭̗̪͎ͧ̈́͋̇̔͒̾̂̃̑̀́o̢̱̖͔͔̟̘͎̗̗͍͙̰͎̝͇̣͔̟͊ͧ̈͊̍͠ͅp͚̤̳͎̻̥̼̰ͭͩ͂̎̉́ͮ̐̇ͨ̈́̈ͧͣ͊̎ͦ̓͠ͅl̵̶̯̙̥̩͙͓̝̗̰̲̩͉͕̲̹̬̻̮͒ͭͥͭ̋̃̀͘e̷̡̨͕̪͙͚̠̬͙͕̰̗͎̻͓͓̰̳̗̝͂̆̏͋̊͌ͧͯ̔ͫͦͨ̍̐͜͠ ͎̯̮̯̦̘͓̝͔͇͇̬͖̼͖̼ͯ̈̀̊ͣͥ̿ͣ͒̈́͒̓ͩ̾ͤ͢͡w̙̺͎̖͙̥̮̜ͧ͌̅̽ͫͦͧ́͜͡͠o̡̢̘̼͖̟̙̤̫̠͔ͩ̽̂͐ͭͨ͊ͣ̔͐̀ͮ̾ͬ͒͝n̑͌ͥ̓͆͒̂͌̈́ͤ̉ͧ͐̕͏̙̗̙̥̬̬̞̺̘͔̀͝'͖̩̤̫̭̝̜̭̓ͤ͑͋̕͜͟͞t̶̵̫̖̙͈̖͉̠͎͍̹̫̺̥̙̜̲͉̥̃ͤ͗͠ ̷̫̣̺̟͕̣͈̺̮̣ͦ͑ͩ̆̿͒̋͊̉ͬ̏̊͂̕̕̕͠s̹̱̭̪̦̭͖̪̬̖̥̰̜̤ͣ́́͂̍͗̅͋͊́̚͠͞t̷̶̨̡̞̠̬̣̲̹̮̠̝̖̗̬̫̩̫͍͖̦̤͂ͪ͐ͨ͐̀a̶̲̦͈̝̳̟̳͓̗̙͔͙̱ͧͯ͗̿̀̕͡͞ͅr̶̴̡͓̩͍̜̮͙̦̂ͫ̃̔ͦ̎͗͊ͮͬ͞t̢̡̙̮͓̰͇̣̤͚͓̗̮̝͈̏̅̈́̃͊ͧ͑̏̑̐̅̃ ̩͈͉̹̻̠̾̊̾͐ͥ͌ͩ̑̊̾̈ͫͤͯ͟͡ͅp͋́̐̂͋̔͑̆ͬͫͨ͊ͭ̃̆̚̕͏̷͎͕͚͍̯̯̲͕̣̳̹̭̯̙ͅơ̧̘͎͎̞͉ͬͨͫͥ̓͂̏́ͨ̂͘̕s͖̤̩̼͉͍̘̖͕̳͍̩̠͓̬̆͑̃ͩͪ̏̍̌̈́͐̀̀t̵̹̻͕̰̯̯̺̗͕̠̣̮̭͔̜̋͗̿̿͊̚i̵̢͔̩̘̗̤̞̩̭̖̤̥͓̟͗̎̉̂̃ͦ̍ͥ̿͐̃̿ͪͪ̅̃̆́͘ǹ̵̎̓̃̚͟͟͏̘̖̤͖̗̹̮̫̺̤̝̜̦͕͔̤̦g̖̜̯̲̬̟͈̜̑̔̓ͣ̊̎ͯͦ̇̏̄͐̄ͮ̿̏́̀͢ ̴̷͇̱̝̬̝̞͉̘͍͖̲̫̥̻̳͈̬͒̈̐ͣ̄̆͋ͪ̎ͣ̆͛̿ͣͣͩ͆́c̵̛̞͙̞̹ͧ̂ͤͮͥ̀̚̕r̷̢̻̯̯̤̓͑͋͌͋͋ͤ͂͢ā̵̮̥̮͙͈̐͑ͥͦ̈ͭ̽̀p̴̵̡͙͖̳̳̭͈̰͉͍̗̗̪͙͓̟̩͉ͬ̅̈̄ͭ͡ͅ ̴̨̱͖̝̪̠̟͕͆ͫͪ̆͘l͍̲͓̻̹̼̖̘̬̩͓̻̖̘͎̩̩ͨ̓̍ͪͣ̏̄̕͟͝͠į̵̯̙̼͓̻̻̪͓̰̳̟̱̲̖͕̣̀͛͊̓̿̌̐̋̊ͪ̓̉́̈́̂ͪ̓͐̕͢͞ķ̸̸̶̯̼͎̙͕̯̹̤͉̱̼̦͚̰͕̖̺̙̞͂͆̆̿͛͗͐̔̿ͨ́̚ę̛̰̹͚̮̠̗͚͇͊͂͂ͩͭ́͂ͫ̀͢͡ ̛̄̏͌ͯ͑ͮͪ̀ͧ̓ͤ͏̷͕̘̫͙̥̺͓͔̖̩͎̞̯̖̘̯̰̬t̴̙̞̼̞̜̭̼͖͎͎̳̓̆͛ͤ̈́͂̑ͫ̕͞ͅh̶͓̣̥̫͓̜͂͂ͮͬ̑͢ͅḭ̴̧͖͉̠̫͕̮͓̜̿̇̍͊̑ͣͭ̔̌̉̈̊ͥ́͢͞ş̦̞̳͙̦̬͔͎͓̖̹͉̺̈́͆̓͌͐ͪͩ̑ͭͭ̓͆͋ͬ̈́̑ͩͦ̓͟



(just testing)  ,,,

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[wraper]

Уитх тхис ниу сервер клустер тхат гниф мовед тхе форумс овер то, тхе форум ноу сеемс то хаве Уникоде суппорт. То тест, И ам тйпинг тхис мессаге фонетикаллй ин сйрилликс, халф бекаузе и консидер ит то бе коол, анд халф бекаузе и уас тоо лазй ин Руссиан класс то леарн анйтхинг елсе. И имагине то нативе Руссиан (ор симилар) спеакерс, тхис лоокс реаллй уеирд.

Frankly this looks hilarious 

[Karel]

Is there a reason we can't stick with ASCII? ASCII works everywhere, it's also compatibel with software that expects UTF-8.

Some people don't understand +/-5uV? It really needs to be written like ±5µV? Why not degr. instead of °?

It avoids all kinds of errors.

[gnif]

Is there a reason we can't stick with ASCII? ASCII works everywhere, it's also compatibel with software that expects UTF-8.

Some people don't understand +/-5uV? It really needs to be written like ±5µV? Why not degr. instead of °?

It avoids all kinds of errors.

The database can be ASCII, etc... but how should it handle when people post Unicode characters?
Even things as stupid as encoded double quotes can vary between locales.

IMO it is best to cater for all possible scenarios and just use utf8 encoding (btw, we are using utf8mb4, which covers everything).

[wraper]

Is there a reason we can't stick with ASCII? ASCII works everywhere, it's also compatibel with software that expects UTF-8.

Some people don't understand +/-5uV? It really needs to be written like ±5µV? Why not degr. instead of °?

It avoids all kinds of errors.

This caused so much pain in the ass all these years. Someone asks about buying some obscure part. You cannot post search terms needed to find that on taobao. Or one cannot type a name of some Russian component for others be able to search for. You can post a picture with text, but it's pretty much useless as unknowing person won't be able to type that as characters are not familiar.

[Cerebus]

Is there a reason we can't stick with ASCII? ASCII works everywhere, it's also compatibel with software that expects UTF-8.

Why can't we stick with horse-drawn transport. Horses work everywhere, etc. etc.

This is a highly international electronics forum so it hits in two places.

The international nature immediately hits things like a recent thread where people where trying to swap names for components in various languages and a Polish guy couldn't type the Polish names properly because ASCII doesn't include the Polish alphabet.

It is a right pain in the butt trying to refer to the everyday mathematics of electronics when you have to spell out things like alpha, beta, square root, sigma, ohm, tau, zeta etc. or have to drop into the weird world of \$ \LaTeX \$ (via mathjax).

[gamalot]

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[BravoV]

ເປັນຫຍັງທ່ານຈຶ່ງພະຍາຍາມແປພາສານີ້ ?

[gnif]

ເປັນຫຍັງທ່ານຈຶ່ງພະຍາຍາມແປພາສານີ້ ?

ເນື່ອງຈາກວ່າຂ້າພະເຈົ້າຢາກຮູ້ວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ມັນເວົ້າ!

[PA0PBZ]

ເປັນຫຍັງທ່ານຈຶ່ງພະຍາຍາມແປພາສານີ້ ?

ເນື່ອງຈາກວ່າຂ້າພະເຈົ້າຢາກຮູ້ວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ມັນເວົ້າ!

ແລະທ່ານມີຄວາມສຸກໃນປັດຈຸບັນ?

[Fire Doger]

Will be there any new rules about how to use unicode or we will have "private" conversations between members from same country inside topics?

[Cerebus]

Well we don't at the moment, and probably 90% of the non-english speakers on here have languages with representations in Latin scripts. The only people I've regularly seen having a conversation in a non-english language are the Dutch. A non-problem I think, once people have got over the novelty of speaking in Thai or transliterating English to unfamiliar scripts.

[Ampera]

Well we don't at the moment, and probably 90% of the non-english speakers on here have languages with representations in Latin scripts. The only people I've regularly seen having a conversation in a non-english language are the Dutch. A non-problem I think, once people have got over the novelty of speaking in Thai or transliterating English to unfamiliar scripts.

Aye, I don't think Unicode support is going to be a problem.

Also, ASCII? Really? Everybody knows that the real shit is with EBCDIC!

[Karel]

... and probably 90% of the non-english speakers on here ...

Electronic engineers can at least read and write basic english. How else are they supposed to read datasheets?

So, in the end ASCII is enough on an electronics forum.

[Zero999]

... and probably 90% of the non-english speakers on here ...

Electronic engineers can at least read and write basic english. How else are they supposed to read datasheets?

So, in the end ASCII is enough on an electronics forum.

I think you'll find that most people here disagree with this.

Many people here have pushing longing for uni code support on this forum for a long time. The main reason I like it is for the Ω symbol, which is very important for an electronics forum. The µ character has been supported for a long time. I don't know why, since it isn't a standard ASCII glyph. I think mathematical symbols such as √ are also good. There's LaTeX maths support, but it gets blocked when I'm at work by the firewall.

If you don't like Unicode, then you don't have to use it.

[Monkeh]

The µ character has been supported for a long time. I don't know why, since it isn't a standard ASCII glyph.

Because it was a superset of ASCII, not ASCII. Probably something like CP-1252 or ISO 8859-15.

[kolbep]

What does good ole google translate say about this? it translates to :
Uith this niu server cluster that gnif moved the forums over to, the forum nou seems to have Unikode support. To test, I am sending this message to fonetikallj in sjrilliks, half bekauze and consider it to be kool, and half bekauze and uas too lazj in Russian class to learn anjthing else. I imagine native Russian (or similar) speakers, this looks reallue ueird.

Уитх тхис ниу сервер клустер тхат гниф мовед тхе форумс овер то, тхе форум ноу сеемс то хаве Уникоде суппорт. То тест, И ам тйпинг тхис мессаге фонетикаллй ин сйрилликс, халф бекаузе и консидер ит то бе коол, анд халф бекаузе и уас тоо лазй ин Руссиан класс то леарн анйтхинг елсе. И имагине то нативе Руссиан (ор симилар) спеакерс, тхис лоокс реаллй уеирд.

[nctnico]

... and probably 90% of the non-english speakers on here ...

Electronic engineers can at least read and write basic english. How else are they supposed to read datasheets?

Not all datasheets are in English by default. Back in the old days French and German companies made datasheets in their own language because most people in those countries couldn't understand English. Nowadays the same is very true for China and (probably) Japan.

[IanB]

Meantime, it is with great pleasure that I can now say things like: ± 5µV/√Hz at 300°K …

...and then you will get pedants pointing out that it is not proper to use the degree symbol with Kelvin, so it should just be: ± 5µV/√Hz at 300 K

[Cerebus]

... and probably 90% of the non-english speakers on here ...

Electronic engineers can at least read and write basic english. How else are they supposed to read datasheets?

So, in the end ASCII is enough on an electronics forum.

But at least it means that Rüdiger and Phillipé can spell their names correctly and the rest of us can enjoy a little concise mathematical notation. I don't know why you're so determined to be such a stuck-in-the-mud about it. I suspect that you've probably got another ℵ₀ reasons why it's a bad idea (little mathematical joke there). Oh — those hyphens remind me — it also allows the typographically minded of us to enjoy a proper em dash.

[chris_leyson]

± 5µV/√Hz at 300 K

WTF where did the ± come from !