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Offline Lord of nothingTopic starter

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What is the correct English Term?
« on: June 27, 2018, 10:41:16 am »
A Company called there Train Service ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_Trans_Carpatic ) "Astra Trans Carpatic". Are the Words in correct order ? Is "Carpatic Trans" not correct?
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2018, 10:51:33 am »
The word order seems correct to me.   Second, since it is in effect a proper noun, the word order can be anything.   For example "SI" is acceptable in American English even though we might reverse the word order.
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2018, 11:14:40 am »
It's a railway that goes across ("trans") the Carpathians. Seems fine to me.
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2018, 11:22:38 am »
 :phew: how about "River Trans" for an Ferry? Is this Terminology right?
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2018, 11:27:42 am »
In that case "trans" is probably short for transport and then it would be correct.
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2018, 11:52:00 am »
Im guessing it is something akin to "trans-oceanic" et al, ala: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/trans-

"Trans-Carpatic" could have therefore been the intention, i.e. to go across/through the Carpathians. Perhaps Astra is a parent company, and Trans Carpatic being a regional service of sorts.
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2018, 12:00:44 pm »
:phew: how about "River Trans" for an Ferry? Is this Terminology right?

I havent ever heard of something like river transport being referred to as river trans, and Ive lived in English speaking countries all of my life.

"Trans river" could be a more likely phrase which, according to my last post, would mean to go across a river. But even that is an unusual term - Ive never heard people say it like that before. Normally its just straight up "go across the river" or "take the ferry".  ^-^
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2018, 12:15:20 pm »
There is a company called River Trans and also a Trans River Line

Confoosin' isn't it?  :)
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2018, 12:25:27 pm »
It's a Romanian name, not an English one.
The name is correct for the Romanian language, it would be incorrect to rearrange the words.

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2018, 02:06:21 pm »
So River Trans is correct?  :-//
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2018, 06:48:33 pm »
Astra - To the stars or Through hardship to the stars
Trans (transvers) - lying or extending across or in a cross direction
Carpatic - Carpathian Mountains in Romania


so the literal definition is

To the stars and cross the Carpathian Mountains

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Cross the Carpathian Mountains at night
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2018, 07:30:21 pm »
How about "River Trans" ?
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2018, 07:47:57 pm »
How about "River Trans" ?

If you are after common usage versus technically correct, "trans" is usually used for large distances, such as transoceanic or transcontinental.  "Trans Oak Avenue" (for a crosswalk across Oak Avenue) would seem odd.  In the US, things that cross a river (on water) are called ferrys and if by road, bridges or causeways. The "trans" is omitted.  For example, the "Balboa ferry" offers people an alternative to a causeway (road) to an island named Balboa.
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2018, 09:19:19 pm »
I'd hesitate to use the term "trans" anywhere these days. It's too open to below-the-belt jokes.

 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2018, 10:13:04 am »
How about "River Trans" ?

Trans river would be trans flumen means: To cross a river or

German: über den Fluss Translates back to English as: Over the river

Polish:po drugiej stronie rzeki Translates back to English as:  on the other side of the river



In Latin the meaning of the name Astra is: From astralis meaning of the stars, derived from the Greek astron meaning star.

In Greek the meaning of the name Astra is: Star

In Norse the meaning of the name Astra is: Divine strength

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2018, 11:35:53 am »
How about "River Trans" ?

"River Trans" is meaningless in English.
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2018, 11:43:00 am »
Also note that "trans" is not a word in English, however, "trans-" is a prefix meaning "crossing over". So for example, "transoceanic" means "crossing an ocean" and "Trans-Siberian" means "crossing Siberia".
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2018, 04:40:36 pm »
Trans is Latin for across

Flumen is Latin for river

Trans flumen - across river

 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2018, 05:28:56 am »
Also note that "trans" is not a word in English, however, "trans-" is a prefix meaning "crossing over". So for example, "transoceanic" means "crossing an ocean" and "Trans-Siberian" means "crossing Siberia".
And “trans-Siberian orchestra” means “annual holiday musical horror show.”
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2018, 12:49:41 pm »
Also note that "trans" is not a word in English, however, "trans-" is a prefix meaning "crossing over". So for example, "transoceanic" means "crossing an ocean" and "Trans-Siberian" means "crossing Siberia".
And “trans-Siberian orchestra” means “annual holiday musical horror show.”

Well that all depends in your taste of music  ;)
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2018, 09:15:02 pm »
What is the best and correct?
AlpsTour
AlpTour
AlpTours
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2018, 09:17:55 pm »
What is the best and correct?
AlpsTour
AlpTour
AlpTours
Thanks!

None of them. They are all a single word with no space or punctuation, so any one of them could possibly be a trademark or trade name in English.
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2018, 09:19:26 pm »
What is the best and correct?
AlpsTour
AlpTour
AlpTours
Thanks!

What's your question?  Any  one of the options you present could be correct in the right context.
 

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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2018, 09:34:19 pm »
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with no space or punctuation
Thats not possible for a Domain and, or a Trademark.
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Any  one of the options you present could be correct in the right context.
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Re: What is the correct English Term?
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2018, 08:31:41 pm »
no idea?
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