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General => General Technical Chat => Topic started by: Simon on December 12, 2012, 12:09:08 pm

Title: What is the difference between DIP and DIL ?
Post by: Simon on December 12, 2012, 12:09:08 pm
Just wondering. I think I see more of DIP in reference to IC's and DIL in reference to their sockets, is there any real difference ?
Title: Re: What is the difference between DIP and DIL ?
Post by: Monkeh on December 12, 2012, 12:13:44 pm
Dual In-Line and Dual In-line Package. So.. none. At all.
Title: Re: What is the difference between DIP and DIL ?
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on December 12, 2012, 12:18:13 pm
sometimes the P refers  to  Plastic, so a ceramic part is DIL but not DIP, but these are so rare nowadays that in practice the two terms are equivalent.
Title: Re: What is the difference between DIP and DIL ?
Post by: Monkeh on December 12, 2012, 12:19:58 pm
sometimes the P refers  to  Plastic, so a ceramic part is DIL but not DIP, but these are so rare nowadays that in practice the two terms are equivalent.

I thought that's what prefixes (PDIP, CDIP) were for.
Title: Re: What is the difference between DIP and DIL ?
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on December 12, 2012, 12:41:40 pm
sometimes the P refers  to  Plastic, so a ceramic part is DIL but not DIP, but these are so rare nowadays that in practice the two terms are equivalent.

I thought that's what prefixes (PDIP, CDIP) were for.
Sometimes yes, but in the early days there were a few different conventions which have stuck around or not in varying degrees.
Interestingly SIL is much more common than SIP for single-in-line. 
Title: Re: What is the difference between DIP and DIL ?
Post by: ptricks on December 12, 2012, 12:45:41 pm
DIP is for IC .
DIL is for anything that has dual rows of pins and can be anything from sockets to relays.
Title: Re: What is the difference between DIP and DIL ?
Post by: george graves on December 12, 2012, 03:12:28 pm
no difference at all.
Title: Re: What is the difference between DIP and DIL ?
Post by: Kremmen on December 12, 2012, 03:31:46 pm
sometimes the P refers  to  Plastic, so a ceramic part is DIL but not DIP, but these are so rare nowadays that in practice the two terms are equivalent.
Exactly this is my recollection as well. Industrial/mil rated dual-in-line chips and UVEEPROMS of the 27xxx family used to come in ceramic/cemented (DIL) packages that were said to be hermetic. Hermetic seal was not claimed for the ordinary plastic packages (DIP). Nowadays nobody seems to pay much attention to that distinction any more and anyway the ceramic slabs are all but gone anyway.