Whats your Work-Bench/lab look like? Post some pictures of your Lab.

[AF6LJ]

I thought the forum was fine without all the PIMK however...........
I do want the HP-3478 Hello Kitty edition to go with my Hakko Hello Kitty edition.....
(The one I don't have yet).

[tautech]

Finished setting up my hide-away mini-bench at home, so that I can work on interesting stuff.

Doesn't that SDG1062X have the wrong label on it ? 

[BillB]

Doesn't that SDG1062X have the wrong label on it ? 

Why yes, yes it does.   

I wish everything else was mislabeled.

[Elasia]

Doesn't that SDG1062X have the wrong label on it ? 

Why yes, yes it does.   

I wish everything else was mislabeled.

Nice setup!  Thats close to what im building.. just not a siglent dmm, how well do you like yours?  I got the arb and a ps but still waiting in line for their new 4 channel scope

[tautech]

Doesn't that SDG1062X have the wrong label on it ? 

Why yes, yes it does.   

I wish everything else was mislabeled.

There's only so much you can do of course and for the SDM you can't magically turn a 3055 into a 3065X, the have different internals.

[BillB]

Nice setup!  Thats close to what im building.. just not a siglent dmm, how well do you like yours?  I got the arb and a ps but still waiting in line for their new 4 channel scope

I like it.  I think Siglent offers good price/performance.  The features and user interfaces on the devices are fine for me, the accompanying PC connectivity applications (their EasyTools suite) are just ok.  I'm an OCD matchy-matchy type, so having an equipment suite from a consistent brand is important to me.  However, if I were to do it over again, for the minimal difference in cost I might have stepped up to the SDM3055 from the SDM3045X (not that I need anything the 55 offers over the 45 - I struggled to justify it to myself somehow, but failed).

There's only so much you can do of course and for the SDM you can't magically turn a 3055 into a 3065X, the have different internals.

Understood.  The same is true with the SDS1104X -> SDS1204X.  Plus, that was a bigger price swing that even the 45->55 I just couldn't justify. 

[tautech]

Nice setup!  Thats close to what im building.. just not a siglent dmm, how well do you like yours?  I got the arb and a ps but still waiting in line for their new 4 channel scope

I like it.  I think Siglent offers good price/performance.  The features and user interfaces on the devices are fine for me, the accompanying PC connectivity applications (their EasyTools suite) are just ok.  I'm an OCD matchy-matchy type, so having an equipment suite from a consistent brand is important to me.  However, if I were to do it over again, for the minimal difference in cost I might have stepped up to the SDM3055 from the SDM3045X (not that I need anything the 55 offers over the 45 - I struggled to justify it to myself somehow, but failed).

There's only so much you can do of course and for the SDM you can't magically turn a 3055 into a 3065X, the have different internals.

Understood.  The same is true with the SDS1104X -> SDS1204X. 

Not AFAIK. Same HW, SW limited. 

[BillB]

Not AFAIK. Same HW, SW limited. 

Oh, really?  I thought the front ends were different?

[tautech]

Not AFAIK. Same HW, SW limited. 

Oh, really?  I thought the front ends were different?

I invite you to dig out Dave's teardown of SDS1202X-E (#985) and watch for clues.

[Edison]

Finished setting up my hide-away mini-bench at home, so that I can work on interesting stuff.

We have the same source Siglent (My X - is your X-E, or the wrong one eye can see)
how satisfied are you with him?
I just communicate with a representative of the manufacturer error in the software. data communication, otherwise I am very satisfied.

[Elasia]

Not AFAIK. Same HW, SW limited. 

Oh, really?  I thought the front ends were different?

I invite you to dig out Dave's teardown of SDS1202X-E (#985) and watch for clues.

Dont forget 1042

I might investigate its fw if i have time... but looks like a few others already actively decode their files for the scopes and gens


One im interested in is if SPD3303X = SPD3303X-E, that might be fun to do

[Edison]

One im interested in is if SPD3303X = SPD3303X-E, that might be fun to do

X is not equal X-E

X - ethernet + USB comunication, set point 1mV/1mA
X-E (economy) - USB comunication, set point 10mV/10mA

[Elasia]

One im interested in is if SPD3303X = SPD3303X-E, that might be fun to do

X is not equal X-E

X - ethernet + USB comunication, set point 1mV/1mA
X-E (economy) - USB comunication, set point 10mV/10mA

My -E has a usb... the sw mod would be 10/10 to 1/1 if its the same guts, not that most would even bother when considering the minimal difference but i like tearing into other peoples fw/sw

http://www.siglentamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2017/10/SPD3303X_DataSheet_DS0503X-E01A.pdf

[Edison]

My -E has a usb... the sw mod would be 10/10 to 1/1 if its the same guts, not that most would even bother when considering the minimal difference but i like tearing into other peoples fw/sw

Excuse X-E has an Ethernet difference in display -1digit. My Rigol does not have an Ethernet economy.

[Elasia]

My -E has a usb... the sw mod would be 10/10 to 1/1 if its the same guts, not that most would even bother when considering the minimal difference but i like tearing into other peoples fw/sw

Excuse X-E has an Ethernet difference in display -1digit. My Rigol does not have an Ethernet economy.

Right but its still just a TFT, so the question becomes can the SPD3303X code be modded to run a SPD3303X-E? And that gets to the fun bits

OR  is it an identical codebase with just a bitflip?   but that would make it a boring mod :p

[tautech]

My -E has a usb... the sw mod would be 10/10 to 1/1 if its the same guts, not that most would even bother when considering the minimal difference but i like tearing into other peoples fw/sw

Then you might want to look here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ads-firmware-file-format/

[BillB]

I do remember viewing both of Dave's teardowns for the 1104 and 1204, and went back and re-watched them.  I don't know why I was thinking they were different front ends.  Old age, I guess.  I haven't seen much chatter yet about a successful "upgrade" of the 1104.

Right but its still just a TFT, so the question becomes can the SPD3303X code be modded to run a SPD3303X-E? And that gets to the fun bits
OR  is it an identical codebase with just a bitflip?   but that would make it a boring mod :p

It's probably like the other devices where the codebase is the same, but there are one or more XML configuration files that determine the feature set.  Once you get root access through the console, it's straightforward.  The problem is, hacking the root password for the image is difficult and requires linux system image reverse engineering skills and plenty of time.

[Elasia]

I do remember viewing both of Dave's teardowns for the 1104 and 1204, and went back and re-watched them.  I don't know why I was thinking they were different front ends.  Old age, I guess.  I haven't seen much chatter yet about a successful "upgrade" of the 1104.

Right but its still just a TFT, so the question becomes can the SPD3303X code be modded to run a SPD3303X-E? And that gets to the fun bits
OR  is it an identical codebase with just a bitflip?   but that would make it a boring mod :p

It's probably like the other devices where the codebase is the same, but there are one or more XML configuration files that determine the feature set.  Once you get root access through the console, it's straightforward.  The problem is, hacking the root password for the image is difficult and requires linux system image reverse engineering skills and plenty of time.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner


Edit: I'd speculate its just because the scope model is newer to market and is just a matter of time... plus with an only difference of 100Mhz to 200Mhz and really even then you end up pushing its front end.. but still a decent sample rate if using it in two channel mode and 2/4 are shut off it looked like.  Less of an attractor of some nutter like myself.. where as you take a Rigol... that thing has incentives written all over it.

[Edison]

Somehow we escaped from topic 

[JustSquareEnough]

@Edison, really cool setup. I like the side keyboard pull out idea!

[xrunner]

Somehow we escaped from topic 

Welcome to the EEVBlog! 

Again nice setup!

[Edison]

@Edison, really cool setup. I like the side keyboard pull out idea!

At the place where the keyboard is usually - above the knees - I have an illuminating board for drawing circuit boards. is currently not fitted, is in the garage and is waiting for some modifications.
After completing nafotíme and show.
thank you for the compliment

[Edison]

Welcome to the EEVBlog! 

It is likely to be in all forums.
I also thank you for praise, i have a lot of photos,  gradually insert

[Edison]

Rigol  "Hello kitty" supplement 

[Edison]

Yeah my container