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Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« on: January 22, 2018, 11:04:30 am »
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 11:10:49 am »
Well, that is just embarrassing, isn't it?  :D
Another reason to use SMD, I guess.
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 11:13:45 am »
Maybe its a 6 pin package, 3 pins out the bottom and out the top  :o

Could be useful somewhere ..................................


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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 11:39:15 am »
I've seen similar mistakes on other datasheets. My guess is that an engineer supplied the diagram, but the technical author inserted it into the document without really looking at it. Then the document is published without being properly reviewed.

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 11:57:42 am »
That is, why it is nice to have conventions for technical drawings :) Since the pins are drawn as solid lines, one can assume that it is in fact the bottom view and that the person dropping the picture into the document made a mistake - most likely using a template that had e.g. an SOT package in that place.
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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 05:30:47 pm »
It looks like a TI mistake. Selecting the graphic highlights an outline that encapsulates the "Bottom View" text in the graphic, while "Top View" is actual text in the PDF.

To add to the confusion, compare the table on page 3 with the graphic on page 38.
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 06:25:40 pm »
 So you think the punishment for this should be death?
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 06:30:21 pm »
A .22 round to the shoulder at the least!

 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 07:01:00 pm »
So you think the punishment for this should be death?

Yes. This level of incompetence is what keeps the human race teetering on the edge of oblivion.
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 07:06:11 pm »
So you think the punishment for this should be death?

Yes. This level of incompetence is what keeps the human race teetering on the edge of oblivion.
It is just an honest mistake.
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 07:11:41 pm »
So you think the punishment for this should be death?

Yes. This level of incompetence is what keeps the human race teetering on the edge of oblivion.
It is just an honest mistake.
I don't think the original poster was being serious about the death penalty FFS.
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 07:14:19 pm »
Coincidentally I just bought one of these over the weekend:

http://www.nteinc.com/specs/1900to1999/pdf/nte1900.pdf

The pin out seems to correspond to the bottom view in your illustration, but there does seem to be an assumption that the reader knows how to read such mechanical drawings with orthogonal projections.
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 07:21:53 pm »
So you think the punishment for this should be death?
Yes. This level of incompetence is what keeps the human race teetering on the edge of oblivion.

That's not necessarily a bad thing! Evolution might have a plan for the replacement of homo sapiens.

For instance imagine yourself a dinosaur having this very same conversation on DinosaurEevblog.
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 07:55:28 pm »
It appears some people didn’t notice I was being facetious above.  :palm:
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2018, 08:03:09 pm »
Yes they did! ;D
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2018, 08:20:33 pm »
Maybe its a 6 pin package, 3 pins out the bottom and out the top  :o

Could be useful somewhere ..................................


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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2018, 08:31:42 pm »
It appears some people didn’t notice I was being facetious above.  :palm:
What does that word even mean?  :-DD

BTW I think it is clearly the top view of a picture - which is the bottom view.
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2018, 10:53:52 pm »
It appears some people didn’t notice I was being facetious above.  :palm:

Thats one of the many challenges with running an international forum. Especially for people who speak English as a 3rd or 4th language.  ;D
 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2018, 11:07:51 pm »
Indeed. I suggest applying the logic below:

1. If you do not see one of the many English or AU flags next the the poster, exit this test. If you see a US flag, proceed with caution.
2. If the post is defamatory or incites violence in any way, it's probably a joke.
3. If the person posts the same comment several times or writes page long rants on it in unrelated threads, they're a nut job and you should probably actually be shot.

Note: 3 is not a joke.
 
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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2018, 11:46:09 pm »
TI has done that with TO-3 and TO-220 package drawings also.  Their terrible datasheets go back decades.

And then there was the time they released a new integrating ADC advertised to *not* generate positive and negative zero ... which generated positive and negative zero.

I think they are also the ones who published power supply rejection graphs in place of common mode rejection graphs.  Since that would make the performance worse than reality, it had to be an actual mistake.

 

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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2018, 12:04:51 am »
Meh, could be worse, they could have said "side view" just for extra confusion.
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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2018, 02:22:59 am »
I've seen similar mistakes on other datasheets. My guess is that an engineer supplied the diagram, but the technical author inserted it into the document without really looking at it. Then the document is published without being properly reviewed.

It will, however, have done the rounds with half a dozen sign-offs required from various departments. It will have sat, unread, on the desks of everybody who has to sign off on it until the poor tech writer trying to get it out of the door has told each of them, three times, that the deadline for publication passed two weeks ago.

Been there, done that, for a large manufacturer of networking equipment that shall remain nameless to protect the guilty. This is why if a large organization wants tech writing out of me nowadays they'll have to pay my interim-management/herding-cats day rate.
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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2018, 03:59:10 am »
Indeed. I suggest applying the logic below:

1. If you do not see one of the many English or AU flags next the the poster, exit this test. If you see a US flag, proceed with caution.
2. If the post is defamatory or incites violence in any way, it's probably a joke.
3. If the person posts the same comment several times or writes page long rants on it in unrelated threads, they're a nut job and you should probably actually be shot.

Note: 3 is not a joke.

what to do in my case with number 1?
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Re: Whoever wrote this datasheet should be shot!
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2018, 04:24:29 am »
TI has done that with TO-3 and TO-220 package drawings also.  Their terrible datasheets go back decades.

Someone should dig out the old National Linear databook, I bet the mistake is in it!
 


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