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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2017, 04:36:39 pm »
Look, it is probably not going to be:
"This is Lieutenant Mohamed Alla Ackbar from the USS Gay Pride. Prepare the rectal probes. We need to help these refugee ships!"
Right? If it will be like that, then you press the red button on the remote control, I press the red button, and so will everyone else. Then they cancel it in season 2, and few years later Rick Berman and Brannon Braga will say that it is not canon. Then they just copy all the info from Memory Alpha to Memory Beta, and we will live long and prosper.

They have Rainn Wilson (he is great in the office!) in 9 episodes out of 15. Playing Harry Mudd. Now, I know, Harry Mudd is kinda lame in the TOS, but all the episodes were this character was present were more silliness than seriousness.
And I dont have a problem with gods is ST. They met Apollo, Q, the things in the wormhole, the caretaker. All of them were god figures.
 

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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2017, 06:45:54 pm »
Right?
It would likely be a completely inoffensive representation of Islam.

To pick Islam as the one contemporary religion represented in a communist society which freed itself from all religions because it was holding them back, would be enough for me to turn it off immediately. Especially when it gets shown with all the rough edges conveniently never coming up. Not a reformed Islam, reformation is apostasy and apostasy means death, just one carefully accommodated by the writers to not have to show its dark side.

Most likely no matter how far he gets to drift off canon otherwise he won't get to do this though ... thank god for inertia.
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2017, 09:47:07 pm »
I like the idea that they continue where ST Enterprise left (too quickly). I hope they manage to get 4 or 5 seasons out of ST Discovery if it is any good.
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2017, 01:17:55 am »
I like the idea that they continue where ST Enterprise left (too quickly). I hope they manage to get 4 or 5 seasons out of ST Discovery if it is any good.
Lets hope so, I really like the concept and they made the concept believable.
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2017, 11:05:42 am »
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Unfortunately, they seem to want to screw with that and go full retard :
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Same old same old...

While Hollywood-culture (this unofficial but extremely efficient also form of mass 'education') agenda was sneakingly promoting Judaism in the Star Trek of the Sixties, today is for Islam and 'diversity' (see the SJW's agenda).

Nothing has really changed, since the famous Star Trek's Vulcan handshake (that so many naive people have been using for decades without having even a clue of its true meaning), known in certain circles as the priestly benediction*, was introduced to the masses in the original Star Trek series by Mr. Spock, a fictional extraterrestrial character impersonated by Leonard Nimoy.

Enjoy the resourceful Leonard Nimoy in his February 2004 interview: 'In Search of Shekhina'.
Quote from: Leonard Nimoy
In 1966 Star Trek went on the air, and I’m playing a Vulcan. [...] So I said to the director, ‘Wouldn’t it be good if I do something special that Vulcans do when they greet?’ And he said, “Well, what do you have in mind?’ [...] So I reached back into my Orthodox childhood and I remembered an experience that I had when I was eight years old. [...] There comes a moment in the service when the kohanim—the descendants of Aaron, the members of the priestly tribe, get up to bless the congregation. [...] So I said to the director, “How about if Vulcans do that? He said “OK.”

[ * ] Priestly benediction is a priestly invoking of the (polytheistic, pre-Babylonian) Judaic female goddess of wisdom Shekhinah, an adaptation of the pre-existing Hellenic goddess of wisdom Athene, which Christianity (Judaism's first offspring, of the fourth century CE) called 'The Holly Spirit' later in time. I guess that the female goddess of wisdom in Islam (Judaism's second offspring, of the seventh century CE) must be infibulated, if still exists...
Oh, my dearest, poor Athene...


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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2017, 11:06:43 am »


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After numerous delays, the CBS All Access series Star Trek Discovery is now set to premiere on September 24th of 2017. The road there has been and continues to be mired in controversy.

While the series so far has avoided the critical spotlight off the mainstream media, ever more information has slipped through the cracks and will be revealed here.

In this video we will cover the most recent press releases and news articles about Discovery, examine the continued claims that Discovery takes place in the prime timeline, look at how CBS and Paramount have responded to fan skepticism, and finally, reveal more details about how the as of now unknown Star Trek incarnation Nicholas Meyer’s is working could be set to replace “Star Trek: Discovery”.

tldr: Copyright f*cks up everything, again.
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2017, 12:54:22 pm »
Yes copyright does F-up Things, but then again that and the ST Cannon are what brought decent follow on series.
A few thoughts...........
I like gritty, I loved the BSG reboot, it was gritty and was easy to suspend reality and enjoy the series, and it had a happy and believable ending.

I am sick and tired of the Prime Universe, it is overused, creativity is held hostage in favor of the fifty year old orthodoxy.

I think it is time to set the Prime Universe aside and move on....
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2017, 03:24:19 pm »
This time with no time travel and no multiple worlds please, that's only good for short stories.
 

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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2017, 04:27:45 am »
I actually just finished re watching B5. It was just as good as I remembered. I also tried re watching the Edward James Olmos BSG and I could not get through it. It just did not hold me. 
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2017, 11:49:24 am »
I actually just finished re watching B5. It was just as good as I remembered. I also tried re watching the Edward James Olmos BSG and I could not get through it. It just did not hold me.
I am just the opposite.
I like the BSG reboot and found B5 to be hard to stay interested in...
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2017, 01:25:18 pm »
Ah! My fondest Battlestar Galactica memories!

...regarding the homonymous handheld game I purchased in NYC in 1980:



Just see that beautiful, vintage, quad in-line package (QILP?) inside!

It can be also noticed that the horizontal navigation switch is different from the power switch; that's because the original ON-OFF-ON switch broke down and I couldn't find a similar one to replace it with, thus the rocker switch replacement...

Thank you both for the nostalgic trip down memory lane,
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2017, 03:51:50 pm »
How Fun. :)
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2017, 04:44:37 am »
Ha ha ha!
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/71dgkz/virtue_signaling_fail/

Virtue signaling fail.    Star Trek Discovery - that you were NOT the first. By a long way.
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2017, 12:00:11 pm »
Ha ha ha!
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/71dgkz/virtue_signaling_fail/

Virtue signaling fail.    Star Trek Discovery - that you were NOT the first. By a long way.
Some people have short memories....................... :palm: :palm:
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2017, 09:57:29 pm »
Yes copyright does F-up Things, but then again that and the ST Cannon are what brought decent follow on series.
A few thoughts...........
I like gritty, I loved the BSG reboot, it was gritty and was easy to suspend reality and enjoy the series, and it had a happy and believable ending.
IMHO BSG went off the rails during the second season and it never got back on track. I watched but only to know how it ended.
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2017, 11:56:08 am »
Yes copyright does F-up Things, but then again that and the ST Cannon are what brought decent follow on series.
A few thoughts...........
I like gritty, I loved the BSG reboot, it was gritty and was easy to suspend reality and enjoy the series, and it had a happy and believable ending.
IMHO BSG went off the rails during the second season and it never got back on track. I watched but only to know how it ended.
I understand...
It departed considerably from the first series..
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2017, 10:35:04 pm »
On topic: if ST Discovery dissapoints there is a less serious (better put: way less serious) new space-sci-fi series called 'the orville'.
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2017, 11:21:59 pm »
On topic: if ST Discovery dissapoints there is a less serious (better put: way less serious) new space-sci-fi series called 'the orville'.
Saw the first 2, it's saaaaaaddddddddd......   They cannot go all in on the comedy and are trying to make some degree of seriousness.  It just doesn't work.  Seth MacFarlane is trying to make a live SciFi Family Guy and the show is too concentrating on making the comedy SciFi look like a real SciFi.
 

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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2017, 12:04:23 am »
I'd honestly rather have another Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda  :box:
 

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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2017, 01:03:15 pm »
On topic: if ST Discovery dissapoints there is a less serious (better put: way less serious) new space-sci-fi series called 'the orville'.

Well...
I missed it last night, was it any good???
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2017, 04:14:45 pm »
On topic: if ST Discovery dissapoints there is a less serious (better put: way less serious) new space-sci-fi series called 'the orville'.

Well...
I missed it last night, was it any good???
The orville was on for the past 2 weeks.
ST Discovery was on last night, no comment yet, give it at least 3 episodes......  Though the new Klingons speak as if they are mentally handicapped...

 

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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2017, 06:02:32 pm »
I actually liked the first episode, then i signed up and watched the second one. I liked it a lot more when it was free. The Klingons, as said before, seem like there is something wrong with them.

All throughout the viewing all I could think was the product development mantra. A camel is a horse designed by a committee.
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2017, 06:53:30 pm »
I am not sure if I am going to shell out the $6.00+ a month to watch one series.
As I understand it last night's episode is the only one to be on "normal" TV...
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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2017, 09:08:58 pm »
Everyone can relax now, this is not star trek, false alarm. Its like all the logic, the rules the lore and everything went out of the window.

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Seriously, they do a race vs culture discussion in S01E01. Bridge is on the bottom of the ship. And they send out the first officer in an EV suite on a dangerous mission (shuttle pods DOH!). They start the series by starfleet officers (captain + first officer, against regulations) shooting a phase cannon (no phase cannons in that era). And meeting a klingon in S01E01, not knowing immedieatly what it is and attacking it. How original. No other show did that. Except in enterprise, they did everything to save the klingon, here it is " charge proton rocket launcher and kill them all, before they see us"

And we had fight between officers, first officer assaulting captain, captain threatening first officer with a phaser. Instead of saying "you are relieved of duty, leave the bridge". I mean what the hell. Did they see any episodes before? Is there anyone who knows ST sitting at the writers table and screaming "that is not how ST works"

Its like Star trek XI again. They show London, and it is not raining. You cannot change things like this.
 

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Re: Why do I already not like Star Trek Discovery?
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2017, 09:10:46 pm »
The first reviews are positive, looks like I am going to watch and follow this.
 


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