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Offline Spark-Doctor

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Advice Please
« on: June 14, 2018, 04:57:52 am »
I have been playing with CM for a couple of months now but last night brought home the limitation as i was in a hotel with very poor WiFi and just could not work. I travel a huge amount on planes and trains and being able to play about would kill a load of time. Also, i am not to happy about the fact that it is open source and i only have 2 sandbox projects.

I have been looking at CS but apart from the fact that it is not cloud based so i can store my files locally, what is the differences between CM & CS??

I am in no way a Professional user and probably never will be but i just want a bit more freedom in when i can use it.

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Re: Advice Please
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2018, 05:23:38 am »
CircuitStudio is different from CircuitMaker in a few ways:
1. CS is a program that runs locally and doesn't rely on the internet
2. CS doesn't have a limit on projects or where they are stored
3. CS doesn't have a good online parts database like Octopart in CM
4. CS is a butchered version Altium Designer.  With that you get some benefits of Altium Designer with some strange bugs.
5. CS is managed by Element14.  Good or bad this is a strange situation. 
6. Not related to CM but CS is probably best bang for buck (really depends on what price you get it for) that I have come across in the PCB design space

If you can get CircuitStudio version 1.3 (the latest is 1.5) for $400 or less I'd say it's worth it.  If you don't do a lot of PCB work then just stick with Circuitmaker.  I think it's  better in some respects to CircuitStudio, especially if you don't have the need to store locally.  Then again you mentioned wanting to kill time without internet/freedom to work when you want, that isn't gonna happen with CM.  Hope this helps.
 

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Re: Advice Please
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2018, 08:05:58 am »
If you can get CircuitStudio version 1.3 (the latest is 1.5) for $400 or less I'd say it's worth it.  If you don't do a lot of PCB work then just stick with Circuitmaker.  I think it's  better in some respects to CircuitStudio, especially if you don't have the need to store locally.  Then again you mentioned wanting to kill time without internet/freedom to work when you want, that isn't gonna happen with CM.  Hope this helps.

I have CircuitStudio 1.4.1 and would be more than happy to sell it, but is the license transferable?  :-//
 

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Re: Advice Please
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2018, 02:40:55 am »
Well, one can read the EULA and figure it out...

It's quite easy to transfer the license to another computer: you can generate a license file and import it on the second one.
Then, it's just a matter of trust; you pay money for a valid license file hoping the seller will not double-sell or continue to use it themselves.

 

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Re: Advice Please
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2018, 09:30:56 am »
Thanks for the replies.

I downloaded a free trial this evening and got an email from a their Tech Support,



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Hi Ian,
 
My name is Rosalia and I'm in Tech Support. 
 
I understand that you are taking a look at the Altium Circuit Studio software.
I wanted you to know that I am here to help with any questions you may have about this software. 
 
I also wanted to find out what you like about it and what you don't like about it so I can pass this information along to the developers.
Also, are there any other items I can help with?  Software, dev kits, test equipment, components, or something else?
 
I'm here to help!
 

Best Regards,
 
Rosalia Macias
Tech Support Engineer
 


Replied back that i was having a problem loading the libaries and got this back,

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Ian,
 
Thank you for comments. I will pass this on to a Tech Support Specialist. The Specialist will contact you shortly with assistance.
 
 
 
Best Regards,
 
Rosalia Macias
Tech Support Engineer
 

Not to impressed so far.

 

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Re: Advice Please
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2018, 10:57:22 am »
Well, one can read the EULA and figure it out...

It's quite easy to transfer the license to another computer: you can generate a license file and import it on the second one.
Then, it's just a matter of trust; you pay money for a valid license file hoping the seller will not double-sell or continue to use it themselves.

I keep a copy on my desktop and laptop.  I don't use them at the same time. 

 

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Re: Advice Please
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2018, 11:14:27 am »
Well, one can read the EULA and figure it out...

It's quite easy to transfer the license to another computer: you can generate a license file and import it on the second one.
Then, it's just a matter of trust; you pay money for a valid license file hoping the seller will not double-sell or continue to use it themselves.

I keep a copy on my desktop and laptop.  I don't use them at the same time.

Same here. My point is the license is registered to my personal name and email. So how can I possibly sell it on to someone else who could make better (commercial) use than me?

It's not a big deal, I would rather use KiCad instead, especially because my PCB's are more the Big Clive sketch 'em and etch 'em affair. I don't dislike CS so far. Except, Ok, I do - those bloody price callouts everytime I move my mouse over a schematic symbol. I was hoping when my 12 month license expired I would not be bombarded with that shit from the cloud, but I still am. My subscription has ended yet they bombard me with cloud shite, but no bug-fix updates.

 

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Re: Advice Please
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2018, 11:32:07 pm »
CM was a joke from it's conception and a massive indicator of how little Altium knows it's customers and it's own industry.

CS, forget the vault, they can't even be fucked to keep a library of SMD resistors. You will have to make ALL of your own libraries which is pretty usual anyway.
The smallest grid is CS is 0.254mm, this sounds ok until you need to draw a mosfet and want fine resolution without resorting to prehistoric imperial measurements in your symbol without making massive symbols. I use 3mm as my base square giving me a 0.3mm smallest step and able to draw anything i like without having to try and work out multiples of 0.254mm.

You will find miscellaneous bugs, some unimportant some a complete fuck over. Like right now i have spent the last hour trying to get a BOM from my project because as of 1.5 CS seems to not be able to work with even it's own templates in excel. As of 1.41 it would take something like 5 minutes to open the dialogue box to set up the BOM and then a further 5 minutes to generate the BOM. No i am not kidding. Now it does not even work for me.

CS is an utter disaster. I am however stuck with it as i have been round the block now. Proteus is not bad, unlike CS it is rock solid although I found it quite convoluted and gave up. Personally i can't keep changing software, i am try to design projects to sell and i can't keep redrawing my entire library every year.


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