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Half price Circuit Studio
« on: February 20, 2017, 11:48:47 AM »
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2017, 12:26:44 AM »
Wel played. It is a good tool. I used a trail to make a simple 2 sided board, and the workflow is easy once you understand the different functions. I will be getting Circuitstudio or Altium later this quarter.

However you must send them a Eagle license, but I currently don't have one. Would they accept it if I subscribe to eagle today for 1 month and feed that license to Circuitstudio?
 

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2017, 10:58:45 PM »
This is great. This may helpful in future to me.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 01:42:54 AM »
A year ago, they set a price of 2000 EUR for the CS, with 430EUR/year subscription. Now it is down to 500.
I think it is actually worth that much. I hope for sure, that no professional company picked up CS as their main tool, now they go for the right market.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 02:14:59 AM »
I admit I haven't read the T&C's, but does it mean you get just the one version that is current at the time of purchasing and are not eligible for any updates? And if you are then for how long? And when it expires, can you just pay their standard "maintenance" fee for the next year worth of updates/fixes?
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 03:17:19 AM »
I admit I haven't read the T&C's, but does it mean you get just the one version that is current at the time of purchasing and are not eligible for any updates? And if you are then for how long? And when it expires, can you just pay their standard "maintenance" fee for the next year worth of updates/fixes?
People overestimate the value of upgrades. I was using Altium 2012 (or 11?) for years, because that is what the company had. It did the job, everything was set up and working, we had a nice workflow, and there were no new bugs introduced. Sure, now I have 17, and I see a lot of improvements, but  I dont  think the maintenance fee would have worth it.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2017, 04:27:57 AM »
Damn, thats some good offer!  :wtf:
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2017, 08:41:47 AM »
How much is the annual subscription fee?
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2017, 09:04:25 AM »
I admit I haven't read the T&C's, but does it mean you get just the one version that is current at the time of purchasing and are not eligible for any updates? And if you are then for how long? And when it expires, can you just pay their standard "maintenance" fee for the next year worth of updates/fixes?

You get a year's worth of subscription to any further updates upon purchase. When your subscription expires, you can still use the software forever*. If you want to upgrade after your original year has expired then you just need to purchase another year's subscription rather than a whole new license.

* forever meaning until they have changed their minds/pulled the product

How much is the annual subscription fee?

150USD from Newark.

 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2017, 08:10:49 PM »
Has anyone been contacted about the offer?
I registered yesterday.

I'm in the beginning of a new project and would like to change the SW now when the schematic sheet is almost empty.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2017, 09:13:03 PM »
The price is 464€ from element14. So it is the same as 499$ eagle discount price https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-73745/l/circuitstudio-altiums-professional-pcb-tool
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2017, 10:02:23 PM »
Why does CS not support Allium binary files?
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2017, 11:24:18 PM »
Why does CS not support Allium binary files?
Cause making a product pyramid (AKA stupid business decisions).
If you would like to know more, just mention it to Mr. Dave Jones...
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2017, 06:39:08 AM »
Export from Altium as Binary PCB5 files seems to work.
The default colours in CS are a little bit bonkers, but can be changed to the classic colours quite easily.

Waiting to hear back in the monthly Eagle sub can be used for a discount.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2017, 09:43:33 PM »
How much is the annual subscription fee?

USD$150
So initial $500 + $150 a year is cheaper than Eagle's monthly plan by far after the first year. Practically an no-brainer, provided you like CS of course.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2017, 09:49:06 PM »
Why does CS not support Allium binary files?
Cause making a product pyramid (AKA stupid business decisions).
If you would like to know more, just mention it to Mr. Dave Jones...

Altium are pyramid masters!







Bonus triangles!
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2017, 09:51:07 PM »
The price is 464€ from element14. So it is the same as 499$ eagle discount price https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-73745/l/circuitstudio-altiums-professional-pcb-tool

Yep, seems like the Eagle deal is not special, it's just the current regular price (for now).
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2017, 10:09:23 PM »
I bought it from Element14 today. Including VAT the price was 552.-€.
Registration and  standalone license download worked without problems.

3D Connexion SpaceMouse is supported! Yay!!!  :-+

Cheers
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2017, 10:22:31 PM »


3D Connexion SpaceMouse ist supported! Yay!!!  :-+

Cheers
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Is or isn't?
I also have a spacemouse. Only used for 3D CAD.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2017, 10:28:06 PM »
Bonus triangles!


Oh boy, that's some expert level Bullshit Bingo action. Still tempted to take a dive, though. Does anyone have any information for how long they're going to keep it at this price?
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2017, 10:30:50 PM »
Is or isn't?
I also have a spacemouse. Only used for 3D CAD.

Positiv. It is supported. Works like a charm.  :-+

(Sorry, german typo. )
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2017, 11:36:10 PM »
Bonus triangles!


Oh boy, that's some expert level Bullshit Bingo action. Still tempted to take a dive, though. Does anyone have any information for how long they're going to keep it at this price?
When I only see this upside down pyramid (scrolling from down), I was  :-DD that someone made such a perfect pun on their slides. But they actually make upside down pyramids...
I also read Pay-per PCB...

We need to introduce a name for the Floating Upside down Mubius Pyramid of Bullshit.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2017, 12:25:57 AM »
I bought it from Element14 today. Including VAT the price was 552.-€.

I wonder what cut Element 14 take?
Also, why do they continue with Element 14?
I know Element 14 originally approached Altium with the idea for Circuit Studio, so maybe they still have some exclusive deal? Perhaps (no pun intended) perpetual?
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2017, 01:10:52 AM »
AFAIK you are free to sell your Altium Designer license should you no longer want/need it as long as you have an active subscription.

Is the same true of Circuit Studio? I can't find that info anywhere.

Found it:

Ah, for all Altium products they might let you transfer/sell the license if you ask them nicely and they give written permission.

http://www.altium.com/eula

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16. ASSIGNMENT
Except as otherwise set forth herein, neither this EULA, nor any interest herein or part hereof, will be transferable or assignable
by  You  or,  by  operation  of  law  or  otherwise,  without  Altium’s  prior  written  consent,  and  including  whether  such  transfer  or 
assignment is by operation of law, agreement of merger, sale of assets or otherwise. Altium may assign, transfer or delegate
any of its rights or obligations hereunder to any affiliated or subsidiary company of Altium or any company acquiring all or
substantially all of the assets of Altium LLC, or its ultimate parent entity.
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2017, 09:32:07 AM »
I bought a licence. I have a lot if schematics work next week. Let see how good it is compared to Eagle, Diptrace, Kicad and CircuitMaker (I have tested/used these).
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2017, 11:15:59 AM »
I was helping a newb design their first PCB the other day. I set them up with circuitmaker and was pleasantly surprised at how easy they found it. I think the part that made it most simple was the fact that they didn't have to draw any library parts. They got lucky and all the parts they were using were there already.


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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2017, 12:14:22 PM »
Does anyone know if CircuitStudio has any trace length matching tools? In the reference design for the PCI card, it looks like they added meanders but I cannot find any of those features in the tool.

Thanks
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2017, 08:22:35 PM »
Does anyone know if CircuitStudio has any trace length matching tools? In the reference design for the PCI card, it looks like they added meanders but I cannot find any of those features in the tool.

Thanks
No it does not have those features.
https://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadBody/76216-102-1-315698/CS%20v%20AD%20Feature%20Comparison%20-%20Final.pdf
 
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2017, 12:17:17 AM »
F*ck!!! They registered the SW to an old email account which have been closed for years. It is not even in my Farnell account details. Where did they dig it?
I needed to work today with Circuit Studio.

I hope the fix will not take a month as with an other forum member.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2017, 01:00:59 AM »
I've been looking to move away from Eagle for awhile, even before the subscription only thing. But this is less of a no-brainer than I thought. It seem like Autodesk will put some effort into Eagle. At the same time Altium isn't known for having a stable offering either. I guess I will have to evaluate CircuitStudio and see if I like it enough to take the risk regardless of how Eagle develops.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2017, 02:00:06 AM »
Does anyone know how long this promotion is going to last?

 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2017, 02:18:11 AM »
I was wondering how long the promo is on for. That's if it is a promo or just a new price. Farnell does not show it as on sale. 

Maybe Altium see Eagle will be a threat later on and are striking early to gain some market traction.

Circuit Studio really does look like a no brainer. I use Easy PC at present and CS looks to be very polished in comparison. I get boards done fine with EasyPC and can use it with my eyes closed but I really am tempted to make the move to CS. I had a client last week ask for a Step file of a board design I did for them. I could not do it and I think EasyPC may never do it. CS seems to handle file import better. Certainly Eagle files I tested from a TI Webench design imported into CS perfectly. Easy PC struggled to import it properly.

It just feels if CS is Altium designer core then for £395 it really is very cheap. I am waiting for the gotcha.

Trev


 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2017, 04:17:34 AM »
Does anyone know how long this promotion is going to last?
I don't know about the sale price, but it looks like the EAGLE promotion goes until March 30.

For me as an EAGLE user, the $150/year maintenance costs make CS considerably less expensive for the long term, even if I don't get the sale price.  I plan to contribute to KiCad development (1/2 day) and I'll still save $100/year...
 

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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2017, 05:01:12 AM »
I've downloaded the 30 day trial of CS and will spend a couple of nights probing around in it.

At €550 including VAT it's less than a years worth of EAGLE Premium. (I don't have the equivalent of EAGLE Premium today but that's the version CS matches).
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2017, 10:47:56 PM »
I just spoke to Farnell regarding the price of CS. Currently its £395 in uk. They said that price is on until the end of March. It is related to the Eagle subscription but seems they have opened it up to everyone. The software is sold with a perpetual license and that includes 1 year subscription.

Least now I can spend a few weeks properly evaluating it without concern the price will go back up again at any time.

Trev
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2017, 07:36:08 AM »
Have anybody here bought a licence?

Farnell registered the licence to a non-working email.

Does the email need to work during registration for the CircuitStudio account?

I just want to know if I need to wait for Farnell to change the email or can I proceed with the non-working email.
The wrong email is in "Step 1 - Account Activation"
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2017, 08:39:39 AM »
Have anybody here bought a licence?
Farnell registered the licence to a non-working email.
Does the email need to work during registration for the CircuitStudio account?

I only got a message from element14 with information how to proceed to this email-address I used for the shop order. This address is not neccessary during activation.

After the CircuitStudio activation you can find a tab called "My Account" where you can edit all your information. Including the email address. I would say you can change the address afterwards.

Good luck!
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2017, 09:41:17 AM »
While browsing the Circuit Studio documentation, I stumbled across this little gem on http://documentation.circuitstudio.com/display/CSTU/CircuitStudio+-+((FAQs)):

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While there are no 'hard limits' per se, the software has been engineered to make it impractical for use with large designs. To this end, the PCB Editor will start to exibit performance degradation when editing designs containing 5000 pads, becoming virtually unusable with designs containing 50,000 pads. Degradation itself takes the form of progressive slow-down in PCB editing functions (such as routing, placing components, polygon pours, etc).

Now, I can't decide whether that's just a really awkward wording on their side or they have actually implemented some kind of "crippling algorithm" that kicks in after reaching 5000 pads and gradually inserts longer and longer delays, making your life harder and harder, trying to (not so subtly) nudge you towards Altium Designer? If so, wouldn't that be quite a weird thing to openly admit to just like that? :-//
 

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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2017, 10:07:03 AM »
While browsing the Circuit Studio documentation, I stumbled across this little gem on http://documentation.circuitstudio.com/display/CSTU/CircuitStudio+-+((FAQs)):

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While there are no 'hard limits' per se, the software has been engineered to make it impractical for use with large designs. To this end, the PCB Editor will start to exibit performance degradation when editing designs containing 5000 pads, becoming virtually unusable with designs containing 50,000 pads. Degradation itself takes the form of progressive slow-down in PCB editing functions (such as routing, placing components, polygon pours, etc).

Now, I can't decide whether that's just a really awkward wording on their side or they have actually implemented some kind of "crippling algorithm" that kicks in after reaching 5000 pads and gradually inserts longer and longer delays, making your life harder and harder, trying to (not so subtly) nudge you towards Altium Designer? If so, wouldn't that be quite a weird thing to openly admit to just like that? :-//
Even Altium struggles, if you have multiple large designs open. First it starts with "please wait a moment" window popping up several times, and then "chatastrophic failure". This is the time to save your work re-start it and close what you dont need. I think it has to do something with the memory used, but I cannot pinpoint it.
What I've experienced, with CS, that this happens much faster. At around 500MB used it start having this issues. So a few complex 3D model can set you back a lot.

Also, layer re-pour is exponentially growing with complexity. And online DRC can be a few seconds, which does not sound a lot, but if you have to wait 100 times...

This being said, you get some discount for AD if you have CS. If you dont know the tool, it might be better to learn the basics on that.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2017, 10:10:49 AM »
Can you still purchase CS without having an Eagle license at the discount price?

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2017, 10:18:00 AM »
Even Altium struggles, if you have multiple large designs open. First it starts with "please wait a moment" window popping up several times, and then "chatastrophic failure". This is the time to save your work re-start it and close what you dont need. I think it has to do something with the memory used, but I cannot pinpoint it.
What I've experienced, with CS, that this happens much faster. At around 500MB used it start having this issues. So a few complex 3D model can set you back a lot.

Also, layer re-pour is exponentially growing with complexity. And online DRC can be a few seconds, which does not sound a lot, but if you have to wait 100 times...

This being said, you get some discount for AD if you have CS. If you dont know the tool, it might be better to learn the basics on that.

Hmm... yes, I do understand that it's by no means a walk in the park from the computational complexity perspective but their words are, quote: "has been engineered to make it impractical" :-// Is that possible that a non-native English speaker wrote that? Or perhaps it only sounds so obviously evil to a non-native English reader, like me ;)
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2017, 11:54:01 AM »
Can you still purchase CS without having an Eagle license at the discount price?

Go to the Newark web site and search for Circuit Studio.  It's listed there for $495.
 

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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2017, 10:21:11 PM »


Have anybody here bought a licence?
Farnell registered the licence to a non-working email.
Does the email need to work during registration for the CircuitStudio account?

I only got a message from element14 with information how to proceed to this email-address I used for the shop order. This address is not neccessary during activation.

After the CircuitStudio activation you can find a tab called "My Account" where you can edit all your information. Including the email address. I would say you can change the address afterwards.

Good luck!
hammy

Looks like you need the email only for password recovery. I did not get it changed in the account details. 

Well Farnell still have to fix it. No reply from them. Altium replied they can'thelp.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2017, 03:34:27 AM »
Try voucher code "ACS10" for another 10% off Circuit Studio at Farnell.
Are we being lured into CS for a price hike on subscription next year?
 
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2017, 04:07:28 AM »
Have anybody here bought a licence?
Farnell registered the licence to a non-working email.
Does the email need to work during registration for the CircuitStudio account?

Actually, I was trying to buy it but I can't register an account with Farnell because I don't have a tax number (the registration page asks asks for ALV-numero as requirement).

So what's the point of using Farnell/ Element14 EXCLUSIVELY to sell the software when mere mortals can't use the website?
 

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« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2017, 04:44:12 AM »



Actually, I was trying to buy it but I can't register an account with Farnell because I don't have a tax number (the registration page asks asks for ALV-numero as requirement).

So what's the point of using Farnell/ Element14 EXCLUSIVELY to sell the software when mere mortals can't use the website?

Good point. At this price it is also good for private individuals.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2017, 04:55:46 AM »
I've been using Farnell for years with a private/personal account paying with credit card.
Maybe their registration process has changed, give them a call and they should sort out an account for you  :-//
 

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« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2017, 06:47:12 AM »
I think it has always been like this for the Nordic countries. It basically says "we only sell to corporate customers" on the registration page. In Sweden there's a distributor to use as a broker, but I think they add 10% and might not accept the discount code either (at least not by default).

I guess one could try to register on the UK site, since it's a download.
 

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« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2017, 06:54:07 AM »
I pulled the trigger today and bought the license..

And good news is voucher code "ACS10" still works...


 
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2017, 07:05:38 AM »
"ACS10" doesn't work on the Australian Element14 site.  Its $650 at the moment with the special pricing.
Still playing with the demo. 3d part placement is a bit of a pig, but it seems to tick the rest of the boxes without the AD price tag.

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2017, 07:51:35 AM »
Well ACS10 was the last straw. Had to pull the trigger!
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2017, 08:00:49 AM »
Wow that was quick. The license already came through. All activated!
 

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« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2017, 08:18:32 AM »
Wow that was quick. The license already came through. All activated!
How did the download go?
Amazon servers have been down and I just got the CS installed on my desktop.
I had to wait hours to get the installation working.

This SW relies on a downloader  and a licence server. It would be more future proof with a full downloadable package and a licence file.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2017, 08:22:10 AM »
I already had the trial version running. I just had to activate the license as per the instructions sent via email.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2017, 09:22:08 AM »
I also had trial running.. Since I used same e-mail for both trial and when buying license, license waited for me next time I started CircuitStudio.  I just pressed Activate... So far, nice experience... Amazon cloud seems to work OK now, Altium Content Vault now works normally...
Now I need to spend lots of time to learn how to use it properly... It's intuitive enough... I did use Protel 99 looong ago....So some stuff is familiar...
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2017, 09:46:44 AM »
Interesting, if they'd actually mention that it speeds up the process when you use the same email as the altium account...then I would have registered with the same email as my existing trial account.

Anyway, registered on the UK farnell website, the purchase is pending though and I won't hold my breath.

Reminds me of how ridiculously difficult it was to buy Labview as private individual some 10 years ago, they didn't have a process for that in place :S
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2017, 10:43:17 AM »
Couldn't resist at this price. A very nice deal indeed!

Everything came through more or less instantly, on the US Newark site.
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2017, 06:16:44 PM »
I fucking hate this kind of websites. not everything is a fucking smartphone

can't even see the damn chart because one bit of scroll means half page scroll for that stupid thing

Anyway, somebody mentioned the half price perpetual license is valid also for non eagle users? We need to either upgrade the diptrace licence or find another solution and this one is similarly priced
where's the catch?
(I looked at the altium/cs comparison on elemnt14 and frankly it doesn't seem to be a hint of more advanced than diptrace. I may try the trial though)
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2017, 06:32:07 PM »
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This SW relies on a downloader  and a licence server. It would be more future proof with a full downloadable package and a licence file.
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To me, that sounds as once you've actually activated the license (for which you must have access to 'net) you can save that license file for future reinstalls. It will most likely be node locked to that machine and you'd need to deactivate using the CS account before installing and reactivating on new hardware. But, I don't know for sure of course.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2017, 10:25:04 PM »
Anyway, somebody mentioned the half price perpetual license is valid also for non eagle users?

If you got to element14.com and search for circuitstudio, you see the discounted price.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2017, 09:39:54 AM »
Interesting, if they'd actually mention that it speeds up the process when you use the same email as the altium account...then I would have registered with the same email as my existing trial account.

Anyway, registered on the UK farnell website, the purchase is pending though and I won't hold my breath.

Reminds me of how ridiculously difficult it was to buy Labview as private individual some 10 years ago, they didn't have a process for that in place :S

Nope, no go. The order was cancelled today.

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2017, 04:47:37 PM »
Interesting, if they'd actually mention that it speeds up the process when you use the same email as the altium account...then I would have registered with the same email as my existing trial account.

Anyway, registered on the UK farnell website, the purchase is pending though and I won't hold my breath.

Reminds me of how ridiculously difficult it was to buy Labview as private individual some 10 years ago, they didn't have a process for that in place :S

Nope, no go. The order was cancelled today.

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I could buy the licence to anyone private IF the licence name and email change would be easy. 6 days have gone and no reply from Farnell.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2017, 04:57:55 AM »
Same situation in Sweden as in Finland, only companies with valid VAT-registration are allowed to order from Farnell.
We have an account at work so I reached out to our contact at Farnell without luck. He just pointed me to the "proxy company" (Microkit) where A) the ACS10 voucher doesn't work and B) they add 10% on top of Farnells price. I could order it using my employers account and he (the Farnell guy) said that it IS possible to change the email address to which the license is "coupled" but apparently that isn't really as straight forward as it sounds. Besides bureaucracy at my workplace doesn't allow me to order thru them anyway.

So I tried what Neganur did, registred on the UK site, placed the order without problems only to recieve a similar email :-(

I responded to that email explaining the situation. They came back saying they'd spoken to the Swedish branch who confirmed, only registred companies (did they think I lied?). They then went on and said they'd forwarded my request to Farnells UK export departement. If I hear something from the I'll make sure to report.

It's really hard to be an honest guy here. Maby I should just download a cracked version of Altium Designer and be done with it. Aargh.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2017, 05:13:11 AM »
I have a UK Farnell account. I am not sure what happens with rights of ownership or exports, etc. I could potentially buy a license for someone and then sell it to them with zero markup? I would have to double check its not a problem from my end. I am not sure if it would get really complicated.

If someone wants to talk to Farnell or Altium and ask them the procedure for me buying then transferring ownership to someone else maybe we can sort something out for people.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2017, 06:10:06 AM »
Good on you for offering to do that but there may be trouble ahead, Altium EULA doesn't allow transfer of licence without explicit written permission from Altium....

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/circuit-studio/half-price-circuit-studio/msg1144463/#msg1144463
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2017, 06:20:59 AM »
When you purchase Circuit Studio, at checkout, you're asked for the email address you want to register the software to. It doesn't have to be your own. You enter the rest of the registration information for the license AFTER you purchase it and set up an Altium account using the email address you specified. So technically, there's no transfer, anyone can register it as long as their email address is specified at checkout.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2017, 06:25:48 AM »
But in my case Farnell used a very old email (closed six years ago) which is not even visible in my account details. They did not use the email they asked while ordering.

They replied to my email today right after I received the pdf bill by email and I made a reclamation. Maybe it gets fixed tomorrow
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2017, 02:33:22 AM »
Best of luck with that!
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2017, 11:01:56 AM »
Apologies that you're dealing with this.  In some countries in Europe Farnell has historically been a B2B distributor only; we're looking into how to address this for those of you who will use CircuitStudio for personal use. 

In the interim we've worked with Altium to set the price of the in app purchasing functionality to $495.  Simply click "Buy New License" while on the license page under "My Account" within CircuitStudio.    If you run into any problems via this method of purchasing or have any other questions don't hesitate to reach out to us via any of the channels at http://www.circuitstudio.com/contact-us (or just reply to this thread).   

Thanks for the patience and @H.O. for working hard to be an honest guy :).

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2017, 06:02:24 PM »
Thanks for doing that Pete, targeting the EAGLE users you really should have that covered from the get-go but never the less, it should make it easier for those in countries where Farnell isn't interested in actually selling what they're offereing.

I guess all the supplier data in the Vault is coupled to Farnell order codes? Not being able to order from Farnell makes that part not as streamlined as I guess it's supposed to be....

As far as my own experience goes, the Farnell UK export department got back to me yesterday and said that since it's a download only Product they'd accept my order. So order placed, confirmation recieved and credit card charged - which is one step further than before - but no license yet.

I'm not in a hurry though so I'll sit tight for a couple of days.

 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2017, 07:58:54 PM »
Its of-course ludicrous that its all that difficult.

There are a few discussion on the subject. If you buy a ebook can you resell it?  If you buy a online game (eg. PS4) can you resell it?  They can put what ever they want in the license agreement, but that doesn't make it legal.

Especially within Europe its getting sick. If i want to buy a Sky package outside of the UK, you can't since they need a UK address. Its all the same, and utter BS. For the people that like to play by the rules, utter BS.

Who, in the right set of mind, fall for this BS, you want to pay and yet you can't  :palm:  :wtf:  |O
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2017, 10:13:25 PM »
They can put what ever they want in the license agreement, but that doesn't make it legal.

That's a very good point.
IANAL but it seems that selling used software in the EU at least is legal regardless of what the software EULA says, according to a European Court judgement in the UsedSoft v Oracle case in 2012.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120703/11345519566/eu-court-says-yes-you-can-resell-your-software-even-if-software-company-says-you-cant.shtml
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UsedSoft
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2017, 10:18:16 PM »
Aaargh  >:(
Friday one person says they'll accept my order, now another says the order is cancelled and are AGAIN pointing me to the Swedish branch who are not interested.  |O

Seriously?

 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #73 on: March 08, 2017, 02:35:19 AM »
Aaargh  >:(
Friday one person says they'll accept my order, now another says the order is cancelled and are AGAIN pointing me to the Swedish branch who are not interested.  |O

Seriously?

Download the demo version from circuitstudio.com. Go to "My account" on the home screen. Under "billing" enter your credit card information.

Then, also under "My account", click "licenses". You will see a buy button to purchase a license for $495 from within CircuitStudio.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2017, 12:30:29 AM »
Is the subscription price at 150usd regular or will rise?
Because in sw I can click renew and extend me till 2019,
Also Farnell/Newark show red stamp with special price only on CS
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2017, 01:44:57 AM »
Is the subscription price at 150usd regular or will rise?
Because in sw I can click renew and extend me till 2019,
Also Farnell/Newark show red stamp with special price only on CS

$150 is the regular annual maintenance charge. Of course it may go up in the future, but if you buy now you won't be charged extra if it goes up later.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2017, 01:56:33 AM »
I reckon the price will only go up, renewing now is probably a wise move.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #77 on: March 14, 2017, 05:31:21 AM »
I finally got the order thru at Farnell without them screwing me over on exchange rates and what not, man that was frustrating  |O

I had the in-app buy option as the next resort but going that route would've added a 15% premium compared to Farnell. Now I got the ACS10 discount and payed 20% VAT (in the UK) instead of 25% as I would've if I had "imported" the license from Australia (at least I suspect that's what would have happened). Had I bought it thru the Swedish Farnell "proxy" as they wanted me to I would've payed a 26% premium.

I hope using the thing doesn't prove to be as hard as buying it.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #78 on: March 14, 2017, 10:16:24 AM »
I finally got the order thru at Farnell without them screwing me over on exchange rates and what not, man that was frustrating  |O

I had the in-app buy option as the next resort but going that route would've added a 15% premium compared to Farnell. Now I got the ACS10 discount and payed 20% VAT (in the UK) instead of 25% as I would've if I had "imported" the license from Australia (at least I suspect that's what would have happened). Had I bought it thru the Swedish Farnell "proxy" as they wanted me to I would've payed a 26% premium.

I hope using the thing doesn't prove to be as hard as buying it.

There IS a learning curve!! But well spent as it is pretty much the same as Altium :) - after 2 months now I'm slowly getting to where I was with DipTrace before. All my old Protel and Orcad knowledge from '80s seem to have gone down the drain somewhere with age...
 

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« Reply #79 on: March 14, 2017, 10:24:33 AM »
As said there is a learning curve but it really is a very nice package. I am moving from EasyPC and everything is different but I am appreciating its features and things seem to make a lot of sense. I really like it.

The 3D integration is on another level. There are also so many libraries out there and once you have spent time creating a few library components it all starts to feel very nice.

I think it is a package where the more work you put into learning it and taking your time to learn it properly the more you will get out of it.

 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #80 on: March 14, 2017, 06:08:19 PM »
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I think it is a package where the more work you put into learning it and taking your time to learn it properly the more you will get out of it.
No doubt about that. I've had no problems with EAGLE, it's been SUPER reliable and I don't find it weird or complicated as so many seem to do but it has obviously taken considerable time getting to that point and I don't expect to be CS to be any difference. I'm looking forward to dig into CS properly.

I'm still trying to figure out the library differences. "Everyone" says that the "correct" way is to have libraries with SPECIFIC part numbers but I can not wrap my head around the idea of having a library with 6000 resistors in it (for ONE series from ONE manufacturer). When capturing the schematic I don't really want to worry about manufacturer, series or not even value. I totally get the benefit of being able to generate an accurate BOM at the end but I'm not doing manufacturing and a 1k 0805 resistor is just that - ANY 1k 0805 resistor.

And, it's not clear to me if I have a library with 500 resistor "parts" in a 0805 footprint and I find myself in need of having to tweak that 0805 footprint. Is their ONE 0805 footprint which ALL the 500 parts are using or does all the 500 parts have their own "copy" of footprint meaning I have to update 500 parts?

Drifting off topic, sorry...
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #81 on: March 14, 2017, 07:29:25 PM »
If you don't need a BOM then don't worry about having a library of specific part numbers.
But if you need a BOM you gotta do that work anyway, so you may as well well do it up front (in the libraries) so its useful in other projects going forward.
There is another thread hereabouts that discusses libraries for CS that might have some useful links for you.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #83 on: March 15, 2017, 05:20:43 AM »
Just read through this short thread, you'll find the answer you are looking for and might even save some money  ;)
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #84 on: March 16, 2017, 10:38:00 AM »
Keep in mind that if you want to have a library of generic passives, That will work as well.    I have large database libraries for specific passives but i also have a generic library as well.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2017, 12:21:53 AM »
If you don't need a BOM then don't worry about having a library of specific part numbers.
But if you need a BOM you gotta do that work anyway, so you may as well well do it up front (in the libraries) so its useful in other projects going forward.

Volts is correct.

Capturing all the pertinent data in the BOM specific parameter fields in the library symbols is the best way to do it.

It's labor intensive at first, but eventually you'll need new parts added only occasionally.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2017, 01:23:14 AM »
Thanks guys,

What's pertinent for a resistor in my case is the value, tolerance, power rating and size - I don't have a need to "lock into" a specific manufacturer and series for parts like that.

Don't get me wrong. I want/need a BOM but for generic stuff like resistors and capacitors it's enough that it (the BOM) says something like 1k 0805 or 22nF, 50V 0603 because in 99% of the cases ANY 1k 0805 resistor and/or ANY 22nF, 50V, 0603 capacitor from ANY manufacturer will do, there's no need (in my case) to specify or "lock in" a specific manufacturer and series and having a number like CRCW08051K00FKEA or CL10B223KB8NNNC in the BOM. If I publish or give that BOM to someone (including myself sometime down the road) they might think it HAS to be that specific part for whatever reason when in fact just about anything will do. In those rare cases a SPECIFIC part is selected/needed I would obviously specify that.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #87 on: March 18, 2017, 02:13:31 AM »
I'm still trying to figure out the library differences. "Everyone" says that the "correct" way is to have libraries with SPECIFIC part numbers but I can not wrap my head around the idea of having a library with 6000 resistors in it (for ONE series from ONE manufacturer). When capturing the schematic I don't really want to worry about manufacturer, series or not even value. I totally get the benefit of being able to generate an accurate BOM at the end but I'm not doing manufacturing and a 1k 0805 resistor is just that - ANY 1k 0805 resistor.

I don't think it's useful, or even normal to specify part numbers for generic components. When submitting a BOM to a contract manufacturer for purchasing, the part numbers from the Farnell catalogue are of little use to them. They will have their own supply chain for common passive components so it's better (easier, faster, cheaper) to let them sort it out.
 

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« Reply #88 on: March 18, 2017, 04:36:30 AM »
That's crazy talk.
You still have to give the contract manufacturer a BOM of manufacturers PNs at least, and the Farnell/Digikey/Mouser/whatever PNs are useful for in-house proto builds.
But, whatever, at least CS gives you the option to make life hard for yourself if you like it that way.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #89 on: March 21, 2017, 12:57:51 AM »
I decided to buy a license after trying the product for a couple weeks and getting used to it.  I am getting to grips with the library management and I think I just need to study the training videos online and practice a lot.   Similar comment applies to the Vault.

So another member of the CS 'club'.

 
 

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« Reply #90 on: March 21, 2017, 02:05:45 AM »
What I understood is that this license grants you CS forever with any usage. While yearly maintenance fee is for upgrades and using Altuim Vault right?

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« Reply #91 on: March 21, 2017, 02:22:55 AM »
Yes, it is a perpetual license. You can export the license into a file.
 

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« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2017, 02:28:05 AM »
What I understood is that this license grants you CS forever with any usage. While yearly maintenance fee is for upgrades and using Altuim Vault right?

Yes, that's correct. The terms allow you to install on up to 3 machines, but as was said earlier, the license is a text file that can just be copied to whatever machine you want to install CS onto.
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« Reply #93 on: March 21, 2017, 04:21:50 AM »
I think you are allowed to install on two machines as long as CS is not used simultaneously on both. You may also make a third backup copy, although that must mean a hard-drive image because there is no offline installer to backup.

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http://www.altium.com/eula

 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #94 on: March 21, 2017, 07:15:19 AM »
I think you are allowed to install on two machines as long as CS is not used simultaneously on both. You may also make a third backup copy, although that must mean a hard-drive image because there is no offline installer to backup.

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http://www.altium.com/eula

You have to request the offline installer from customer service to get the FTP credentials to download it. Similar to Altium Designer.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #95 on: March 21, 2017, 08:11:08 AM »
Farnell & Altium tried to fix the wrong username/email.
Now nothing works and I can't sign in. What a mess.
 

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« Reply #96 on: March 21, 2017, 10:27:34 AM »
Is the half price circuitstudio deal over?

If you go to : https://www.element14.com/community/community/manufacturers/altium

The purchase price is now $995.
 

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« Reply #97 on: March 21, 2017, 11:56:49 AM »
Is the half price circuitstudio deal over?

If you go to : https://www.element14.com/community/community/manufacturers/altium

The purchase price is now $995.

To get the $500 discount you must now buy through: http://www.altium.com/eagle-switch/circuitstudio/

Also, discount code REACY1 takes another $25 off for a final price of $470.

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« Reply #98 on: March 21, 2017, 05:28:23 PM »
The price is still SEK4400 (~$495) on the Swedish Farnell site (where individuals are not allowed to order) and the UK site still shows £395.
 

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« Reply #99 on: March 21, 2017, 10:57:12 PM »
The price is still SEK4400 (~$495) on the Swedish Farnell site (where individuals are not allowed to order) and the UK site still shows £395.

I used the UK export site  http://export.farnell.com  to buy my copy, as the US site (Newark) has gone back to $995 with no voucher. 
Although the price says £395 in the UK they actually charged my US credit card $501.61 after the ACS10 discount, which I reckon is about $50 too much.
However I don't think i'm going to rock the boat and argue with Farnell - could well end up being a painful exercise.
Another interesting thing is they invoiced me and billed my CC directly in US dollars, not pounds. 
 

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« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2017, 01:12:54 AM »
Yeah, it's a total mess.
My initial order on via the export site was charged to my credit card with one amount £495-10%+20%VAT. In GPB. This order was cancelled and refunded.
Then, after asking them why they cancelled an order they earlier said they'd accept they asked me to place a new order and I did. This time they tried to make some seriously unfavorable exchange from GBP to EUR (which my credit card company would then make another unfavorable exchange into SEK).

I told them I'd accept the price of the first order and they adjusted the final price to match. Had it happened on the INITIAL order I probably would just let it slip but when they tried to pull that stunt on the second order I called then out.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2017, 02:55:47 AM »
Is the half price circuitstudio deal over?

If you go to : https://www.element14.com/community/community/manufacturers/altium

The purchase price is now $995.

To get the $500 discount you must now buy through: http://www.altium.com/eagle-switch/circuitstudio/

Also, discount code REACY1 takes another $25 off for a final price of $470.

Seems to work different in Singapore.  Using that link from GlowingGhoul and clicking on buy redirects me to the local Farnell/Element14 website, and the discount code isn't valid there. (It helpfully places me straight to the shopping basket page with a copy already added.)
 

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« Reply #102 on: March 22, 2017, 03:28:25 AM »
Is the half price circuitstudio deal over?

If you go to : https://www.element14.com/community/community/manufacturers/altium

The purchase price is now $995.

To get the $500 discount you must now buy through: http://www.altium.com/eagle-switch/circuitstudio/

Also, discount code REACY1 takes another $25 off for a final price of $470.

Seems to work different in Singapore.  Using that link from GlowingGhoul and clicking on buy redirects me to the local Farnell/Element14 website, and the discount code isn't valid there. (It helpfully places me straight to the shopping basket page with a copy already added.)

Maybe this direct link will work:

https://www.element14.com/community/view-product.jspa?fsku=2726528&nsku=13AC6066&action=cart&excluding=HK%2CTW%2CCN

 

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« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2017, 03:38:04 AM »

Maybe this direct link will work:

https://www.element14.com/community/view-product.jspa?fsku=2726528&nsku=13AC6066&action=cart&excluding=HK%2CTW%2CCN

Nope, that redirects back to the Singapore site as well.  Not too surprising I guess, a lot of websites for the bigger companies automatically redirect to country specific pages.

This is what appears at the top of the page when I try to use the coupon:
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REACY1 The voucher code entered cannot be used against this order.

I'll probably just have to pay "full price".  Tomorrow I think.  It's late over here.
 

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« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2017, 07:36:34 AM »
@GlowingGhoul  : thanks for the link and code.  It worked for me!

Does the circuitstudio activation code arrive in a separate email?  I didn't see any download / activation link after I placed the order.
 

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« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2017, 08:10:47 AM »
Yes, separate email with instructions. If you already have created a CS account (like when you downloaded the trial) and you used the same email address when you ordered the license then it's just a matter of logging in and activating the license but I suspect the process isn't fully automatic so it may take a little while for the data to sync up.
 

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« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2017, 08:45:18 AM »
Yes you get an activation email.
Don't worry. If you get an activation error you can always contact support by email

BTW my licence does still not work. Can't sign in or use the vault.

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« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2017, 10:53:23 AM »
 

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« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2017, 03:08:08 PM »
Hi plazma,

I've been watching this thread with interest and just sent you a PM.

The strange email address shown, i.e. [email protected] is not one I've heard of so we'll need to investigate why that is displaying.

The best address for CircuitStudio support is [email protected] rather than an altium email address.

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #109 on: March 23, 2017, 04:03:43 AM »
Finally after almost a month my licence is fixed.
Altium sent me a new activation link which appeared as used. It did not fix anything.


I could not login with the old or new email/username.

I noticed a LOGIN text at the right top corner of the activation webpage.
I tried to login there but it did not accept my credentials. There was however a "Forgot password?" link in the login page http://shell.circuitstudio.com/.


It worked and I got the password reset.
With the new password I could login with the correct email/username.

You can not reset the password from CS. There is no link in the login window. In account details there is a quick link for "Password Reset" but it is greyed out. Even if it worked it would not help there. You need it in the login window. If you need to reset your password use the link above.

I can now login and use the  vault. I just get this error message every time I start CS.


PS: this mess started with Farnell registering the licence to a closed email which was not even visible in my Farnell account details. They did not use the email informed in the order page. I asked for an extension for the subscription to compensate for the mess. Let see how it goes.
 

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« Reply #110 on: March 23, 2017, 10:12:41 AM »
Hi plazma,

That message hasn't been reported by any other users so is not expected. Since the error mentions system DateTime could you please check that your system clock is fairly accurate and that your Time Zone is set correctly?

What operating system are you using (e.g. Windows 10 Pro 64-bit)?

Often in this unknown situation the first thing is to reboot the PC and see if the message still occurs.
Second option is to uninstall CircuitStudio, choose the option: "Remove Completely".
  - Reinstall CircuitStudio and when it runs for the first time, press Cancel if it wants to import settings.
  - Sign in with your email address/password and Reactivate the license.
  - While still signed in: File > System Preferences, expand Data Management > Vaults and click Add Altium Content Vault
  - Restart CircuitStudio and see if the error occurs again.

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« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2017, 05:09:59 AM »
Maybe this direct link will work:

https://www.element14.com/community/view-product.jspa?fsku=2726528&nsku=13AC6066&action=cart&excluding=HK%2CTW%2CCN

Hmmm, not working for me...

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You have exceeded the maximum number of vouchers that can be applied to this order.

EDIT:  OK, I'm a dumbass.  The previous voucher was still attached to my shopping cart.  I deleted it and replaced it with this one and now it works...
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« Reply #112 on: March 28, 2017, 01:38:06 PM »
OK, it now appears the most reliable way to get the promotion is to go to the Farrell or element 14 site for your country and search for "eagle users promo". $495 on US, 395 pounds on UK, and 572 euro on DK.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #113 on: March 29, 2017, 04:12:10 PM »
Looking for advice for those who went from a trial version to buying a license:  What's the best way to go about it?  I purchased a copy from my local Element14 last night and I've got the e-mail with links to the download.  Should I uninstall the trial first, or just install over it?  Or do I just log in somewhere and activate something?
 

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« Reply #114 on: March 29, 2017, 05:27:17 PM »
Looking for advice for those who went from a trial version to buying a license:  What's the best way to go about it?  I purchased a copy from my local Element14 last night and I've got the e-mail with links to the download.  Should I uninstall the trial first, or just install over it?  Or do I just log in somewhere and activate something?

I was running 1.3.0 (trial).  Bought the license (not via the software). Via the website i activated my account (link from there email). I then just changed my login details in CS, and it automatically installed the license.  That seemed to work fine.

BUT after that I updated to 1.0.4, now i'm getting a error "Warning: License Renewal Failed" (Invalid duration ...). Im not sure if this was caused after updating to 1.0.4 or that it had to do with switching my trial to the official license. BTW after the message i click OK, and all seems to work.

I guess thats a 1.0.4 issue, see http://www.eevblog.com/forum/circuit-studio/circuit-studio-bugsissues/
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #115 on: March 30, 2017, 01:41:21 PM »
Well, this is annoying....

So I purchased a copy from my local Element14, and they had a field in the checkout form to specify which e-mail to deliver the license to.  Like with plaszma, they (mostly) ignored that.  They linked the license to my Element14 e-mail and CCed the notification/welcome e-mail to my "delivery" address.  :palm:

The good news is I was able to log in and register through the link provided in the e-mail.  That done, I fired up CircuitStudio and used the "wrong" email address to log in.  So far so good.  Go to "View | Start | My Account | Licenses" and activate the license.  That worked.

Then I noticed under "View |  Start | My Account | Edit Account" I can change my e-mail address.  Yeah, I know.  But I did it anyway.

I took the brilliant step of changing that to the correct e-mail address.  And... it worked. Sort of.  I can log in with the "correct" address and the license was there, but I can still log in with the wrong e-mail.  What's more the license screens are slightly different in both.  The wrong account allows me to expand details of the license, but the account I want to use doesn't.

I'm also getting a pop up message shortly after logging in:
Warning: License Renewal Failed
Invalid duration.  The duration specified is too long for the expiry date on this license.  Please contact your License Administrator for license renewal.

Guess I'm going to need to contact support.

plaszma, did you get all your account issues sorted out?
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #116 on: March 30, 2017, 03:05:30 PM »
I got it fixed. It took almost a month.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #117 on: April 04, 2017, 03:57:25 AM »
The promo still seems to be valid today (April 3), despite the website saying it would end on March 30. I was able to use it and the REACY1 coupon code to get a license for $470.
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #118 on: April 09, 2017, 05:40:16 AM »
I just bit the bullet and bought this today 4/8, the coupon was still good. Once Newark decides I'm worthy to sell to I'll figure out why they charged me $100, too much.
 

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« Reply #119 on: May 10, 2017, 11:08:16 AM »
I caved in today. Still avail at US$495. Could not get any voucher code to work on top of it.
topcashback have 6% (ebates only 3%) So I'm getting some money back.

Had no problem activate it as I used same email addresses.
 

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« Reply #120 on: May 14, 2017, 09:38:26 PM »
Nope, that redirects back to the Singapore site as well.  Not too surprising I guess, a lot of websites for the bigger companies automatically redirect to country specific pages.

You get around this by using a VPN. Select a server in the country you which to purchase from. Probably better to register using a generic email address such as gmail etc.
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« Reply #121 on: June 26, 2017, 01:00:06 PM »
Nope. Don't waste your time with Cirtcuit Studio. The half-price ain't even worth it.
I still have problems licensing which takes them forever to fix.

I called Altium directly. they told me they don't support Circuit Studio while element14 points their finger at Alitum.

Customer support is extremely poor.. I suspect circuit studio is already dead.
Orcad has much better support.. at least the tech guys are much more responsive than element14/altium
 

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #122 on: June 29, 2017, 10:15:17 AM »
Hi all,

I've helped ricktusl so the license is now working.
CircuitStudio is not dead (as suggested in this thread) - we are working hard on 2 updates: a small one due soon and a larger one near year end.

Altium doesn't support CircuitStudio support questions directly so you're better off going direct to element14 software support by emailing [email protected] and they can definitely provide support.

The eval license has had some teething problems as it is a new type that is different to the commercial license so it's possible that element14 needed to contact Altium to resolve the license problem.

P.S. don't forget to contact [email protected] to enquire about any June 30 specials for CircuitStudio. The CircuitStudio FAQ http://www.circuitstudio.com/circuitstudio-support addresses a lot of the common questions about importing from other systems or from Altium Designer.

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« Reply #123 on: June 30, 2017, 01:07:05 PM »
I'm happy with Circuit Studio and looking forward to the updates.

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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #124 on: July 01, 2017, 11:06:55 AM »
I just bit the bullet on "Flash sale, $495 for EVERYONE, ends July 1st", from the circuitstudio website.

Once on the canada.Newark.com website it was the same SKU as the Eagle promo. We'll see how it goes as I don't have an eagle licence (except maybe an old freeware).

After exchange and taxes it came just a little bit shy of $800 Canadian. Not bad at all. This is in the upper range of "nice new tool for the lab that will last me years" territory. $1600 would have been a definite no-go.

So now they went from $3K USD to 0.5K in 18 months... How LOW can it go?
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« Reply #125 on: July 01, 2017, 11:12:15 AM »
I suspect they have found that $500 is what the market will pay. I bet the sales dried up to just above zero when they went back up to 1K

I know that $500 was the most I was willing to pay.
 

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« Reply #126 on: July 01, 2017, 08:45:05 PM »
I know that $500 was the most I was willing to pay.
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Re: Half price Circuit Studio
« Reply #127 on: July 02, 2017, 04:34:03 AM »
Why does CS not support Allium binary files?

Because Altium admit know knowledge of CS while farnell trumpet about how it is basically Altium. Even library files that you can download from altium are not made available in CS format even though they support competitor formats but then it's the same anyway but it's like again they won't admit to CS.
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« Reply #128 on: July 06, 2017, 11:14:25 PM »
I'm happy with Circuit Studio and looking forward to the updates.

 :)

Me too.

I've been using Protel/Altium since the mid 90's, but never did use the FPGA tools, simulator, nor the embedded development tools.

I am happy that Circuit Studio came along so I can afford a reasonable facsimile of Altium for retirement.
 

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« Reply #129 on: July 07, 2017, 05:31:36 PM »
I'm happy with Circuit Studio and looking forward to the updates.

 :)

Me too.

I've been using Protel/Altium since the mid 90's, but never did use the FPGA tools, simulator, nor the embedded development tools.

I am happy that Circuit Studio came along so I can afford a reasonable facsimile of Altium for retirement.

Likewise.  There's lot of things that drove me nuts at first until I found a work around (i.e. came up with some sort of hack.)  However the alternative was $10k AUD out of my own pocket for AD, or learn another tool from scratch (but most of my customers wanted Altium files anyway.)

So is the pain work $10k AUD?  In my case, absolutely.
 

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« Reply #130 on: July 08, 2017, 03:06:57 AM »
Precisely. An excellent tool for the money.

Hopefully Altium is smart enough to realize that supporting this properly for the semi-professional and hobbyist market will have a long term "halo" effect on commercial sales of Altium. If they'd move support back in house for instance, I'd say at $499 this could become the standard for serious hobbyists. Support and polish is where they can really differentiate from the open source competition in this area.

Tell them JamesH. It would be too easy for a non-long term thinker to let Circuit Studio die on the vine because they're only looking at the sales figures and profit of this product in isolation. No doubt this will end up in the hands of people who will ultimately be influencers in companies they work, or will work for in the future. Consider it a marketing tool.
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« Reply #131 on: July 08, 2017, 05:09:47 PM »
Hopefully, so far they practically deny it's existance and any search for circuit studio just points you back to element14
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« Reply #132 on: July 11, 2017, 06:02:25 AM »
Finally received my licence today, took them a week.

I still had days left on the trial so nothing was lost but when I inquired about the delay last week, Newark told me they had a backlog due to strong demand during the sale. Hopefully, more users will help CS get the love it deserves from the developers.



Hopefully, so far they practically deny it's existance and any search for circuit studio just points you back to element14

How many times in the same thread must you make the same point Simon?

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« Reply #133 on: July 11, 2017, 04:54:36 PM »
maybe as many times as they bang on about how it is a version of Altium Designer, I mean if altium is as buggy as CS then I'd never buy it.
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« Reply #134 on: July 11, 2017, 06:09:25 PM »
I mean if altium is as buggy as CS then I'd never buy it.

No it's not as buggy.  But either way it all comes down to options, and there aren't a lot of good alternatives in either CS or AD's price bracket.
 

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« Reply #135 on: July 12, 2017, 05:08:34 AM »
So the stripping down of AD to CS has created issues :( I get numerous memory address access violations.
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« Reply #136 on: July 12, 2017, 07:49:20 AM »
So the stripping down of AD to CS has created issues :( I get numerous memory address access violations.

It's not "just" a stripped down version.  People are commonly comparing it to AD17, the current release of AD. But when you dig around in the back end and look at how some of the features are implemented, my guess is CS is built off Altium Designer 09 or similar.  Some of the missing features aren't just Altium removing them from AD, but are a result of them using an older AD codebase.
 

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« Reply #137 on: July 12, 2017, 09:05:57 AM »
Well I haven't used CS that heavily yet and others have used AD more heavily than I.  But in my experience I found that "error dialogs" could happen from around several times a day to maybe several times a week depending on usage type and intensity.  In CS I typically find myself getting error dialogs also several times a day.   
In both products when one was less lucky one might well find oneself in a situation where you pretty much are guaranteed to get an error dialog just about every time you try to do a certain operation if it doesn't "like something" about your operation vs. your design structure at that point in the design.   Usually you can find some work-around if you can notice that you tend to get more errors popping up for certain configurations / operations you can examine and experiment with your settings to see if you were doing something wrong that it didn't handle well or if your design was OK but AD just didn't like something about it that could be worked around somehow.

In the worst cases I've seen AD would basically crash every time doing some operation and only changing / reverting some part of the design would get around it.  So far I haven't seen anything quite that bad with CS but I wouldn't say it really behaves much differently / better than full AD did.

I'm always nervous about "forging ahead" after such an error dialog happens since usually (for CS / SW in general) that could mean that something is corrupted and saving after that point could just "permanently" corrupt your project.  But so far (lacking a better option) it has seemed that just restarting / reloading / trying again or whatever seemed to work out OK except for the anxiety and frustration about the error's nature / possible effects.


So the stripping down of AD to CS has created issues :( I get numerous memory address access violations.
 

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« Reply #138 on: July 12, 2017, 10:09:35 AM »
.... in my experience I found that "error dialogs" could happen from around several times a day to maybe several times a week depending on usage type and intensity.

I've actually used Altium (Protel in the early days) since 1988, but for these last 2 years I've swapped over to DipTrace (which I find more productive for the boards I am designing - normally 80 to 200 components with 500 to 1000 pads).

You can reduce the errors that Altium throws up by ensuring you run an Intel processor (as specifically recommended by Altium) over an AMD, making sure you have plenty of RAM (ie 8GB) & have a good video card (with 1GB or 2GB of memory) & up to date drivers for it.

If you do all of the above & don't have too many other programs running alongside Altium, you should find it to be very stable.
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« Reply #139 on: July 12, 2017, 02:45:34 PM »
Thank you for the tips.  I was unaware of the applicable memory and particularly CPU brand limitations.
Presently it seems like I am operating contrary to both suggestions but I haven't really got set up a system appropriate to use it long term so far I have just been experimenting with it and evaluating its potential.  I guess it will be my choice for personal use going forward so I will have to set up something better to run it.

The kinds of errors I have been recently seeing seemed mostly at first glance to be in the "bug" category maybe race / file locking & sharing conditions on shared files for a project library problem I saw or maybe just a logic bug for some PCB object  "rendering" issues I saw on the overlay layer etc.  Then again there were some not obviously attributable "memory access" violation error messages too.  I guess those could have been RAM / CPU related more likely.  I would not be surprised to run into the kinds of problems you suggest for the reasons you suggest as I delve into more complex features and more demanding uses.

I never did get around to trying DipTrace.  Mostly I have used OrCad / Pads / Altium / DesignSpark / Kicad / Eagle at various times.  Of those at the moment Circuit Studio seems like a pragmatic OK choice for me to use until something better comes along.  I can see what you mean about the productivity, though, I am always running into workflows and limitations that I wish were not implemented as they were in either Altium Designer or Circuit Studio, but also I have not found the other packages I have yet tried to be overall better than Altium in UX.  There is room for much improvement.

.... in my experience I found that "error dialogs" could happen from around several times a day to maybe several times a week depending on usage type and intensity.

I've actually used Altium (Protel in the early days) since 1988, but for these last 2 years I've swapped over to DipTrace (which I find more productive for the boards I am designing - normally 80 to 200 components with 500 to 1000 pads).

You can reduce the errors that Altium throws up by ensuring you run an Intel processor (as specifically recommended by Altium) over an AMD, making sure you have plenty of RAM (ie 8GB) & have a good video card (with 1GB or 2GB of memory) & up to date drivers for it.

If you do all of the above & don't have too many other programs running alongside Altium, you should find it to be very stable.
 

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« Reply #140 on: July 12, 2017, 04:31:45 PM »
.... in my experience I found that "error dialogs" could happen from around several times a day to maybe several times a week depending on usage type and intensity.

I've actually used Altium (Protel in the early days) since 1988, but for these last 2 years I've swapped over to DipTrace (which I find more productive for the boards I am designing - normally 80 to 200 components with 500 to 1000 pads).

You can reduce the errors that Altium throws up by ensuring you run an Intel processor (as specifically recommended by Altium) over an AMD, making sure you have plenty of RAM (ie 8GB) & have a good video card (with 1GB or 2GB of memory) & up to date drivers for it.

If you do all of the above & don't have too many other programs running alongside Altium, you should find it to be very stable.

Latest intel i7 processor and 16GB of RAM, but I am running on intel HD graphics so maybe it objects to internal graphics cards on laptops. My PC is AMD with an independant graphics card so not sure which would work out best
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