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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2018, 06:24:21 pm »
Of course I sound like a broken record! so do Altium and Farnell in their lies!
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2018, 10:56:05 pm »
Of course I sound like a broken record! so do Altium and Farnell in their lies!

Sounding like a broken record is sometimes the ONLY way to get things progressing.....so don't let up IMO!

Personally, I am dismayed that we haven't had any updates or notices about whats happeneing next in regard to CS updates. It's almost like Altium have drawn a line in the sand and that's it! I do know that resources at Altium are split between AD and CS......but it's been quite a while now!

I sooooo much want it to be better than it is in 3 or 4 areas, nothing drastic requiring NASA software engineers to get involved, just bug fixes and a bit of cleaning up some functionality.

Please Altium!

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2018, 11:29:58 pm »
Altium costs a mint, they can't say they are not able to finance development. CS falls off of the back of AD and is more expensive than other programs out there that are way more stable. They have made a rod for their own back by not just doing tiered licencing of AD. they frankly do not understand how to develop a good product or the industry they are supposedly serving.
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2018, 01:49:22 am »
I've just finished my third board layout this week without a hitch. I find CS to be very stable, can't remember when I last had a crash.
Ian is right, there are bugs which need attention but are fairly easy to workaround for now.
Of course we all have new features we would like to see but it's a very usable system as is.
 

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2018, 12:26:20 pm »
A while back on the Newark support forum there was an email stating that Altium would make available a roadmap and development plans for CS. Said they would post such plans in 90 days or something like that. That date has come and gone a long tome ago. I went to look for that message a couple times, found it once but any reference to dates had been removed. Now I can't even find it. Guess it's easy to make promises knowing you can just delete them later.
 

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2018, 07:26:20 pm »
I also started a topic asking when we would see the road map but as you have pretty much discovered they are simply fraudsters! I wonder how many people were tricked into handing over money under this false pretence for a license update expecting them to play nice now and that boys and girls is pretty much the definition of fraud in law! To take money from someone under false pretences! But aren't Altium now pretty much based in china now? so go figure! And of course the last time I downloaded CS it came with the updates already in it no need to install them after checking my licencse that was valid by a matter of hours before the year ran out, so I'm not sure why anyone had to pay money for the so called update if it now come updated for anyone....
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2019, 06:17:51 am »
Just fired up CS tonight and there's a new Beta update to 15.2.30 available......no idea what the changes are, the beta forum is quiet.

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2019, 12:57:59 pm »
Just fired up CS tonight and there's a new Beta update to 15.2.30 available......no idea what the changes are, the beta forum is quiet.

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2019, 12:59:49 pm »
Just fired up CS tonight and there's a new Beta update to 15.2.30 available......no idea what the changes are, the beta forum is quiet.

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If you try it out please post.
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2019, 06:57:29 pm »
Apparently mine is up to date, I assume it checks even if the license is expired to encourage you to renew?
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2019, 10:50:34 pm »
Apparently mine is up to date, I assume it checks even if the license is expired to encourage you to renew?

I tried to update to 15.2.30 beta last night but it kept failing with one particular component. I tried twice.
I'm away from the workshop right now so can't check but maybe they've pulled it...…..

I'm on the beta program so maybe that's why I got the notification....albeit it's been a while.

I enjoy CS very much, the last bug fix update sorted most of my issues...…..there's just a few GUI issues and of course the Vault problems I wish they'd look into......i.e. navigating the vault, copy n paste footprints issues etc etc. At the moment I detest the vault with a vengeance and rarely go near it.....preferable to just create my own footprints or download off the web etc and be done with it...…..

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2019, 11:29:27 pm »
i didn't know there is a beta program. I don't bother with the vault as it never had what i want and if I make my own parts I get what i want on the BOM. You can still download integrated libraries, I use a 3mm grid so can't use any schematic symbols as the world is still stuck on 0.1" but I have taken footprints from manufacturers Altium libraries.
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2019, 11:54:37 pm »
Apparently mine is up to date, I assume it checks even if the license is expired to encourage you to renew?

I tried to update to 15.2.30 beta last night but it kept failing with one particular component. I tried twice.
I'm away from the workshop right now so can't check but maybe they've pulled it...…..

I'm on the beta program so maybe that's why I got the notification....albeit it's been a while.

I enjoy CS very much, the last bug fix update sorted most of my issues...…..there's just a few GUI issues and of course the Vault problems I wish they'd look into......i.e. navigating the vault, copy n paste footprints issues etc etc. At the moment I detest the vault with a vengeance and rarely go near it.....preferable to just create my own footprints or download off the web etc and be done with it...…..

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15.2.30?   :-DD
 

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2019, 11:59:31 pm »
well we are desperate to see a return on our money that anything is better than nothing.
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2019, 12:22:40 am »
Well it seems it is still in beta...
 

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #65 on: February 15, 2019, 06:25:32 am »
I disagree.
I find CS to be a capable and stable tool.
Yes, its has some bugs and could have a few more features but for medium size layouts it gets the job done nicely.
 
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #66 on: February 15, 2019, 09:02:21 am »
Well it seems it is still in beta...


Well Altium are all chinese now? maybe they misunderstand "beta" for "better" so a beta program must be a "better, better" program.
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2019, 09:03:42 am »
Well it seems it is still in beta...


Well Altium are all chinese now? maybe they misunderstand "beta" for "better" so a beta program must be a "better, better" program.
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #68 on: February 15, 2019, 02:00:47 pm »
I disagree.
I find CS to be a capable and stable tool.
Yes, its has some bugs and could have a few more features but for medium size layouts it gets the job done nicely.
I agree. 
 

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2019, 10:57:20 am »
A bit off-topic but I really hate how they keep spamming me with Altium Designer related e-mails (events, seminars, etc.) and fail to even acknowledge there is such a thing as CS. Couldn't make the fact they treat CS solely as a vehicle for shilling AD any more obvious if they tried. Do they really think folks who are into EDA software, of all people, are that stupid?
 

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2019, 07:15:19 pm »
A bit off-topic but I really hate how they keep spamming me with Altium Designer related e-mails (events, seminars, etc.) and fail to even acknowledge there is such a thing as CS. Couldn't make the fact they treat CS solely as a vehicle for shilling AD any more obvious if they tried. Do they really think folks who are into EDA software, of all people, are that stupid?

and yet when James Harriman from Altium took the trouble to spend 40 minutes on a mobile phone to me in the UK from Australia he assured me that altium did no such thing. But then everything coming out of Altium is a fat lie and they are clueless about their audience or they would never have even entertained the idea of circuit maker.
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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2019, 11:14:27 pm »
They have released the 1.5.2 update now, but as far as I can tell all it does is fix the bug with fetching data from Digi-Key due to their API change (apparently notified two years ago). Oh, it also allows data from a number of new suppliers.

In my case the 'update' came a few days before my subscription expires, so I'm not sure about renewing.  There doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency from Altium/E14 about making new releases - will things change with Avnet in control now?
 

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Re: How's CS progressing? Is it no longer "beta"?
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2019, 11:18:39 pm »
Avnet have potentially been in control for a while. It is only now that they are applying their branding and presumably tieing their stocks together. I doubt they will do much to CS for a while and are still at the mercy of Altium who seem to have no mind to change their screw the customer attitude.
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