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Keysight Scope Month feedback
« on: April 16, 2016, 09:31:51 am »
I wanted to create a new thread to talk about Scope Month.  What you liked or didn't like, what we should or shouldn't do again, what you want next year, etc.

This is a chance for you all to give me & the team direct feedback as we plan for 2017!  Thanks for a great ride!

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2016, 09:34:23 am »
Thanks for all the hard work organizing this!
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2016, 10:19:16 am »
Looking at how few techies have a Facebook account it seems obvious to me that next year's voting system should not require facebook but some other way to identify voters.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2016, 10:38:41 am »
A panel of esteemed judges would be great. Professors, bloggers, YouTubers, professional engineers, etc that can judge the entries based on the merit.

For the drawing portion - it was easy to throw in all of my email addresses. Since I own a lot of domains, I kind of have unlimited access to emails. It would be more fair, if there was a registration process that would prevent mass entries that can skew the chances for others. Not sure exactly how to do that, but I am guessing you had massive numbers of entries relative to actual humans.

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2016, 10:43:06 am »
Rather than voting, as such, which is rather difficult to Police and check over the internet.

You could allow voting to ONLY take place, via the submission of short videos (such as youtube ones), in support of particular applicants. Stating why they are going for them.

These would be difficult to cheat, because you can see the individual(s), making each "voting" video, and their explanation(s) as to why they are voting for that video.

They may even increase the excitement of the event, which could benefit Keysight.

Also it would be nice if there were much more, low value prizes available. Such as Keysight multimeters, which cost a lot less than the higher end scopes. Then there would be far more winners, and reasons for entering.

Some people would much prefer Keysight to promise to supply the prize(s), such as scopes, inclusive of all taxes/duties (and income taxes etc). As long as the country permits this, and the charges are NOT excessive for that particular country.
E.g. Limit it to a max of 50% of the value of the scope.

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Another way of organizing the competition, would be to have a panel of judges, choosing who wins, out of the videos.
BUT allow individuals, to write comments, saying who they support and WHY. Then the judges can read through the comments, and use those to help them choose the winner(s).
Hence you would have many individuals involved with the voting process, but cheating would tend to be suppressed, because it is the judges who make the final decision.
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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2016, 10:50:33 am »
You could create a competition, which involves complicated circuit challenges and/or questions, created by a panel of experts. The best and highest scoring answers, win a super, top of the range, Keysight Oscilloscope.
This could be separate from the other competitions and giveaways, that keysight do.

A bit like Googles/IEEE's one.
https://www.littleboxchallenge.com/

But with great scopes, as the prize(s).

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Alternatively/Additionally
Could have a competition to suggest the best ideas for improving the feature(s) and/or functionality/capabilities of an ideal Keysight oscilloscope. One vote per current Keysight website subscriber/login.
The winner gets an optional free tour of Keysights facilities, and gets a day with their top designer(s), to start implementing the idea(s).
A video of the resultant visit, can then be made publicly available.
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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2016, 11:05:52 am »
After April 20th I'll have a much clearer idea of what should have been done differently.

Of course whatever "brilliant" ideas anyone has, should probably shoot them over to Daniel directly so we don't have the RigoSiglenix of the world using them too. Not everything shoud be "open source" :)
 
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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2016, 11:09:51 am »
Lets see how Dave's work

The main thing is he made a set of contestants before it started (min 10 posts).  In other words they were qualified before entering.

I would like to see non-profits be the only ones qualified to enter.  Like schools.  My idea is for a trade school like ITT enter because they may be able to use a high cost scope and in turn they would put something together (like electronic labs) for poor schools.  They could use students to assemble kits and write materials.

Seems there would be a lot of good will to encourage a lot of publicity for KS and the trade school.

In other words it would be nice if a high value item could benefit more people.  I also would like to see the benefit go to school labs in third world countries.   

The trade school that could put the best third world lab together would be the winner.  Blog members could help.  I guess it does not have to be a school.  A person (unlikely) or a company could do this.

I do not like FB contests.  This one turned out to be kinda sad  :(

I hope this topic will encourage some good ideas.
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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2016, 11:20:02 am »
Whilst high end scopes could be given to entries showing merit, I think you should still have giveaways of lesser scopes, etc, not necessarily based on merit as such,  to allow non experts (hobbyists, etc) a chance to win something.

This would build a clent following for Keysight from future, up and coming professionals, experts or keen hobbyists.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2016, 01:35:18 pm »
A panel of esteemed judges would be great. Professors, bloggers, YouTubers, professional engineers, etc that can judge the entries based on the merit.

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2016, 01:51:21 pm »
Being able to enter would be a good start, blacklisting so many countries is just crazy.
Australia has enough problems with lack of R&D funding, government support etc, this is just another slap in the face.
I know international contests and regulations aren't easy, but please consult with people besides lawyers (who just so no if they are unsure of anything).

Perhaps you could have two options when people enter:
a) A high end scope.
b) A set of hobby level test gear, scope, bench PSU, function generator etc.
People chose A or B, and each is a separate draw.
Perhaps the cheaper set of equipment has multiple prizes, so more chance of winning something.
Would put and end to the Hot Water heater wars etc.
 

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2016, 02:13:26 pm »
Being able to enter would be a good start, blacklisting so many countries is just crazy.

I am not sure Keysight decides that as much as the nature of the local regs in your country. If it is illegal, exceedingly difficult, or expensive for whatever reason - they have to draw the line somewhere. There are individual states in the USA that are not eligible.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2016, 02:37:01 pm »
Being able to enter would be a good start, blacklisting so many countries is just crazy.
Australia has enough problems with lack of R&D funding, government support etc, this is just another slap in the face.
I know international contests and regulations aren't easy, but please consult with people besides lawyers (who just so no if they are unsure of anything).

Perhaps you could have two options when people enter:
a) A high end scope.
b) A set of hobby level test gear, scope, bench PSU, function generator etc.
People chose A or B, and each is a separate draw.
Perhaps the cheaper set of equipment has multiple prizes, so more chance of winning something.
Would put and end to the Hot Water heater wars etc.

I agree.  KS can have a high value item for publicity and less value items in fine print (as an exchange).  But anyway for US residents, giving the prize at the end of Apr, gives people a year to come up with the tax.  It would have been a killer if the prize was awarded in March.


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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2016, 03:11:05 pm »
Being able to enter would be a good start, blacklisting so many countries is just crazy.

That's not really being fair to Keysight.  There's only so much you can expect them to do.

This is why:
I am not sure Keysight decides that as much as the nature of the local regs in your country. If it is illegal, exceedingly difficult, or expensive for whatever reason - they have to draw the line somewhere. There are individual states in the USA that are not eligible.


... although I would encourage them to push a little harder.   ;D
 

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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2016, 03:53:50 pm »
Being able to enter would be a good start, blacklisting so many countries is just crazy.

I am not sure Keysight decides that as much as the nature of the local regs in your country. If it is illegal, exceedingly difficult, or expensive for whatever reason - they have to draw the line somewhere. There are individual states in the USA that are not eligible.

It's not illegal to run contests in Australia, you just need to register them officially (at the most) and document the draw. It's an anti fraud protection, stops people running contests and giving the prizes to themselves.
But as the rules are state based (though fairly consistent), I can see US based companies not bothering.

I suspect most of the blacklisted countries are simply due to this, or companies not checking to see if the rules even apply to overseas contests.
 

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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2016, 04:02:27 pm »
Definitely more, lower-value prizes - few people really need a high-end scope - with lower end scopes you will benefit more people and potentially get more publicity. e.g. "we're giving away 500 scopes" or " a scope  an hour" is probably a better headline than "scope month" which doesn't really say much about the promotion.

You also clearly need to deal with the whole import duty thing by supplying tax-paid via local distribution channels.
 

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2016, 05:03:18 pm »
Final Charting.

The Total Votes chart is the same as you have seen before:


The Voting Rate chart is a new approach.  I have divided the sample periods into slots of 6 hour width, apportioning votes across the boundaries as before and ChunkyPastaSauce's data has been included.  With the smaller sample size, you will get a rough indication of voting activity through the day - but the accuracy will depend on there being adequate data points.  As a result, this will be more accurate in the second half of the chart (from April 8 on):
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2016, 06:06:55 pm »
I understand that Keysight most likely won't disqualify Nilu even with the basically statistical proof of cheating in the rate chart above. I don't mean this as a jab. The contest was a marketing exercise, and it would really backfire and make keysight look like total assholes if they came out and said no, even though this sweet little girl with a water heater on a high school science team won, she doesn't get a scope.

Of course everyone in this subforum that's been following along knows more than that was going on, but we're probably less than 1% of the people that will see the contest results. So I can't fault Keysight at all. And if they do what I think they are going to do with Carlos, then I really, really respect them, and you Daniel, for stepping up and helping out the community here  :-+

I would say just use this year as a learning experience, and know that no matter what, if you decide to do it on public voting contest format and not judged merit, there's going to be fraud. It's not possible to avoid with prizes of this value. If you're set on a public voting contest I'm not sure what I would do. Video-format votes like mentioned above is one idea, it would certainly get keysight a lot of mention on YouTube. I'm tempted to say another contest like this years except that only eevblog members can vote who had existing accounts at the time of the contests beginning, but that's horrendously inclusive and may as well be called eevblog contest.

I really like the idea of the main contest (for the top end prize) being merit driven, where it was decided by a panel of judges. To get the keysight exposure you want, make it popular judges. Dave, mikeselectricstuff, Applied Science, signal path, other people popular in the arena. Either way though I'm grateful you decided to give out so much equipment this year, even if I didn't win any drawings  :-BROKE it might have been the biggest EE giveaway I've ever seen!
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2016, 06:12:04 pm »
Whatever you do, and however you do, please don't use Facebook in any way shape or form.
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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2016, 06:17:33 pm »
The solution next time is simple. Like other engineering contests, you have specialist judges. I've been a judge in many contests, and whilst not perfect, it really the best way to weed out the unworthy entries.
It would have been trivial to get some judges to watch all entry videos and rate them using various categories. Aggregate the results and the have a winner.
You can still have community voting, but only have it contribute say 20% of the overall votes (i.e. make the community one of the judges). And/or have a lesser prize for the People's Choice
 
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2016, 06:19:09 pm »
Lower priced scopes are more a favour to citizens of countries with ridiculous tax systems, where even "free" gets taxed. I doubt it's much of a difference to Keysight to give away for example a MSOX3014T (100MHz) or a MSOX3104T (1GHz), the hardware is basically the same. Yes, high bandwidth analog frontends are expensive, but not $10K more expensive (in BOM to the manufacturer). The list price is more of a tax problem to the winner, once this is properly handled by Keysight, there is no need for the low bandwidth "Hobbyists" scopes to be included in the contest. The cheating and the tax problem are the two main problems Keysight may want to work on for next year, imho.

Oh, and please, more mugs and baseball caps and ballpoint pens  :-+



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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2016, 06:25:11 pm »
Lower priced scopes are more a favour to citizens of countries with ridiculous tax systems, where even "free" gets taxed. I doubt it's much of a difference to Keysight to give away for example a MSOX3014T (100MHz) or a MSOX3104T (1GHz), the hardware is basically the same. Yes, high bandwidth analog frontends are expensive, but not $10K more expensive (in BOM to the manufacturer). The list price is more of a tax problem to the winner, once this is properly handled by Keysight, there is no need for the low bandwidth "Hobbyists" scopes to be included in the contest. The cheating and the tax problem are the two main problems Keysight may want to work on for next year, imho.

Oh, and please, more mugs and baseball caps and ballpoint pens  :-+

This  :-+ Even the caps and pens are taxed here :D
 

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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2016, 06:28:51 pm »
Definitely more, lower-value prizes - few people really need a high-end scope - with lower end scopes you will benefit more people and potentially get more publicity. e.g. "we're giving away 500 scopes" or " a scope  an hour" is probably a better headline than "scope month" which doesn't really say much about the promotion.

They should have called it scopeadaymadness.com
 

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2016, 06:35:13 pm »
IDEA:
Bury the gear and get people to solve puzzles to work out the coordinates. See how many nerds bother to leave their computer and go into the real world for the hunt   :-DMM
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2016, 06:57:48 pm »
How about only people who have entered the draw for the giveaways being allowed to vote on the presentations?  They have presumably already been screened to be real people who want an oscilloscope.  And if any of them are just opportunists looking for any old prize they probably won't bother to vote.
 

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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2016, 07:12:45 pm »
Lower priced scopes are more a favour to citizens of countries with ridiculous tax systems, where even "free" gets taxed. I doubt it's much of a difference to Keysight to give away for example a MSOX3014T (100MHz) or a MSOX3104T (1GHz), the hardware is basically the same. Yes, high bandwidth analog frontends are expensive, but not $10K more expensive (in BOM to the manufacturer). The list price is more of a tax problem to the winner, once this is properly handled by Keysight, there is no need for the low bandwidth "Hobbyists" scopes to be included in the contest. The cheating and the tax problem are the two main problems Keysight may want to work on for next year, imho.

Oh, and please, more mugs and baseball caps and ballpoint pens  :-+
And t-shirts
For any contest that needs some effort,all entries should get something,even if only a T-shirt etc.
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2016, 07:31:35 pm »
The solution next time is simple. Like other engineering contests, you have specialist judges. I've been a judge in many contests, and whilst not perfect, it really the best way to weed out the unworthy entries.

This.  This is the only way to make sure that the recipient is "worthy".
Also, it would have disqualified me, as (unless I would have lied in the video) I have an okay scope (Agilent MSO-X 2004A) at home, and I have access to much higher bandwidth stuff at work if I need it. And, I should be disqualified. I don't need a new/free scope from Keysight. I have a job, and a scope.

Also, maybe a tiered approach?  One nice scope, a few mid-range ones, and a bunch of low-end scopes.

And, why only scopes?   The one thing I see people need the most (without realizing) is a good, trustworthy power-supply. Even the most basic Keysight PSU would be a massive upgrade for most people.
 
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2016, 07:32:31 pm »
T shirt is a plus, just remember than in many countries ( including where I live) any clothing attracts a high duty rate. 

Best is to send the mug or pen to all entries, as this is both simple and low cost, and then only with the semi finalists and perhaps the judges send them a T shirt ( remember Dave is a small, a shirt that fits me will fit him, Sagan and Huxley all at the same time with room left over) so you get the judging videos to better represent the brand as well.

A thought for next year is to make up a print run of Keysight branded note pads ( like the DaveCad pages Dave uses on his videos for stuff not on a whiteboard) and send them with the pens. With a small A5 pad of around 30 pages and a pen, possibly a keyring as well, will fit in a small padded bag and can go regular post as well. Basically Trade show swag, so should be easy to get internally on the marketing budget.
 

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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2016, 07:46:02 pm »
I wanted to create a new thread to talk about Scope Month.  What you liked or didn't like, what we should or shouldn't do again, what you want next year, etc.
This is a chance for you all to give me & the team direct feedback as we plan for 2017!  Thanks for a great ride! 
Hi Daniel,
personally I would first like to know what the intention of Keysight is, what was the strategy?
If the strategy was to get more publicity of your new brandname in an open untargeted audience , ok this works, I am sure a lot of 14 year girls now have heard of your new brandname.

If the strategy was to sell more scopes to a target audience, this fails.
Why? Because you are selling Ferrari's and there are not many people/hobbieists that can afford a ferrari.

Now if there would be some sort of new generation marketing scheme that would allow enthousiasts like us to buy such beautifull pieces of equipment for the price of (you know who) a china competitor scope and ofcouse not to cannabilize your marketing group the buyer would have to sign a non-commercial license agreement and not to sell the scope in the first four years or so (serial number locked or whatever) to get this really really good deal, than you have a lot of advantages:

1) you will reach your target audience: a lot of hobbieists like on this forum do this also for their work for companies that will buy your products for 100% listprice if the products are as good.
    They use them at home so they also want to use them at work.

2) your products will get even better:  have hobbieists actually using and experiencing your scopes and openly talking about it on a forum like this. This will provide very valuable feedback in GUI, scope practice etc, to improve next gen products. Dave is only one guy, think about 100's-1000's testers sharing their findings, you will end up with the best products on this planet  ;)

This would be so much more valuable to your company and to the target audience compared to giving away these beautifull devices to a random bunch of people, ending them up on ebay or catching dust in some highschool closet. Then I rather had you gave them away to some universities in 3rd world countries that have totally no funding at all and are crying to have some sort of decent equipment, would make it a good tax write off also. Think about it, let your marketing department get in the next century and start thinking out of the box.

 

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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2016, 08:53:13 pm »


They should have called it scopeadaymadness.com

It is all about marketing and there is no harm in a bit of controversy to help get your name out.

 

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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2016, 09:52:10 pm »
How about only people who have entered the draw for the giveaways being allowed to vote on the presentations?  They have presumably already been screened to be real people who want an oscilloscope.  And if any of them are just opportunists looking for any old prize they probably won't bother to vote.

Wont work, as the entrants are biased towards themselves. The tactical voting for a biased person would be to vote on the persons with the least to gain (i.e, the ones that already at the bottom), thereby making sure they wont be hurting their own chances in the process.
 
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2016, 10:07:23 pm »
b) A set of hobby level test gear, scope, bench PSU, function generator etc.
I like this idea: not just concentrate on scopes but provide a complete beginners kit of equipment (MSO scope, PSU, multimeter, function generator).
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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2016, 03:25:29 am »
The solution next time is simple. Like other engineering contests, you have specialist judges. I've been a judge in many contests, and whilst not perfect, it really the best way to weed out the unworthy entries.

This.  This is the only way to make sure that the recipient is "worthy".

But probably not disclose who the judges are until afterwards  to avoid them getting hassled.
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2016, 03:37:30 am »
Isn't it possible the Keysight will get name recognition among high school students because of this?  And some may carry this in their memories into their jobs. 

Maybe this is a way for KS to brain wash our youth ?  ha ha ha

If this is a social experiment, I would say it worked.  I bet this will be in the school newspaper.  And possible in their local newspaper.

I think it will make big news that a 16 yo girl wins a $75,000 prize.

When I was 15 (in the 60's) I won an encyclopedia (World Book) and I was on the front page in the San Diego paper.  All I remember they scared the shit out of me when they came to take my picture.

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« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2016, 06:31:52 am »
Daniel, you guys put together a great promotion that really had a great impact on the Keysight brand recognition. Congratulations! You can tell by the number of forum threads in the Contests and Events section of this website that have "Keysight" on its subject - including a joke on another brand.

As feedback, in the future the entry form could potentially have some sort of multiple email entry avoidance system - yes, even Facebook-tied entries (they are  not as impopular as Dave believes - any engineer living abroad I know uses it in one way or another to be in touch with relatives)

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High Schools get more satisfaction providing food and spectacle along with good test scores and college entrance statistics rather than building knowledge into the students.

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Isn't it possible the Keysight will get name recognition among high school students because of this?  And some may carry this in their memories into their jobs. 

High Schools get more satisfaction providing food and spectacle along with good test scores and college entrance statistics rather than building knowledge into the students.

I don't know where this Nilu is a 16 year old schoolgirl thing is coming from? If so, nature has been cruel on the one hand, but maybe gave her savant abilities letting her complete a 5 year degree at, what, 14 years old?  :-DD
 

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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2016, 09:46:45 pm »
Lets see how Dave's work

The main thing is he made a set of contestants before it started (min 10 posts).  In other words they were qualified before entering.

I would like to see non-profits be the only ones qualified to enter.  Like schools.  My idea is for a trade school like ITT enter because they may be able to use a high cost scope and in turn they would put something together (like electronic labs) for poor schools.  They could use students to assemble kits and write materials.

Seems there would be a lot of good will to encourage a lot of publicity for KS and the trade school.

In other words it would be nice if a high value item could benefit more people.  I also would like to see the benefit go to school labs in third world countries.   

The trade school that could put the best third world lab together would be the winner.  Blog members could help.  I guess it does not have to be a school.  A person (unlikely) or a company could do this.

I do not like FB contests.  This one turned out to be kinda sad  :(

I hope this topic will encourage some good ideas.


Even though I am a big fan of Dave and what he is doing on EEVBlog, I don't thing he ran the contest perfectly. For one, even though I added my name on the forum, and qualified, my name was NOT on the excel list as he scrolled through the (presumably sorted by name) list. So I think there were a few who fell through the cracks somehow (bad SQL Query?). Also, I did not agree with the hasty way it was done - e.g. none of the two winners were online. I would have loved to see their reactions when they win the prize :)


@Daniel:
1. There was a bit of confusion about the smallprint in the beginning (aka. All your life belong to us!!! :P Many engineers are very precise when it comes to lawyerspeak (it scares us!) That was bad.
2. The videos were fun, taught me something, and put a few faces to your company. That was great.
3. There was confusion in the beginning about entering every day, entering with multiple emails? etc. etc. A clearly written bullet list of what can and cannot be done (in engineer-speak, rather than lawyerspeak) would have been great.
4. I think the campaign worked on me - I was on the fence about buying a new scope, and now I think I will seriously consider Keysight scopes (though they always seem slightly above my budget).
5. Scope-month was great, but maybe having contests more often, even for much cheaper scopes, and on different occasions, is probably the way to go. there were plenty of my engineer friends who did not know about scope-month.
6. The scope barbecue was cringeworthy. You need to understand, for many people who have never owned an expensive scope, a Keysight scope is something to be enjoyed and worshipped (ok, maybe not "worshipped"). A lot of people saw that as sacrilege. There are ofcourse many here, and probably more at Keysight, who see and work with these scopes every day, and to them it was not a big issue. I think the lesson to learn is, to bring in a couple of people from your audience, from outside the company, and get their opinion if you ever want to do more "barbecuing" :)
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« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2016, 09:53:39 pm »
As feedback, in the future the entry form could potentially have some sort of multiple email entry avoidance system - yes, even Facebook-tied entries (they are  not as impopular as Dave believes - any engineer living abroad I know uses it in one way or another to be in touch with relatives)

No...Just NO! You are assuming things here sir. Facebook is a big NO to me, and about 50% of the people I know who are about my age. We still value our privacy, and we do not have Facebook accounts. :palm:
 

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« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2016, 10:28:44 pm »
As feedback, in the future the entry form could potentially have some sort of multiple email entry avoidance system - yes, even Facebook-tied entries (they are  not as impopular as Dave believes - any engineer living abroad I know uses it in one way or another to be in touch with relatives)

No...Just NO! You are assuming things here sir. Facebook is a big NO to me, and about 50% of the people I know who are about my age. We still value our privacy, and we do not have Facebook accounts. :palm:
Well, I am not "assuming" anything, it is my observation around my professional peers. Yours is different, which is fine.
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« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2016, 10:34:07 pm »
The whole public voting idea is a fail right from the start. You could invent a perfectly working anti-gravity device and would still lose big time to a bunch of high school students with their army of teenage backers  :--
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« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2016, 11:17:16 pm »
A few idle thoughts...

- voting several times a day seems really.... odd. I've never seen another competition work this way, and I'm not sure I see what it achieves besides placing a burden on those who vote, to keep coming back to make sure their support carries as much weight as other peoples'.

- for the big prize, I definitely agree that having a team of judges would work better than having a simple popularity contest. In this case, David and Nilu have, quite reasonably, worked out that their chances of winning a scope at all are greatly increased by submitting a video and going for the 'big one', rather than just putting their names into the hat for one of the lesser scopes that are also being given away. Sadly, though, this does mean that someone with a genuinely good use for the 'big one' is more likely to lose out, and an expensive multi-GHz unit is likely to find itself attached to some kind of 'duino. That's a travesty, IMHO.

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« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2016, 11:17:31 pm »
Well, I am not "assuming" anything, it is my observation around my professional peers. Yours is different, which is fine.

Check the Facebook poll in another thread? Less than 50% here use it.
 

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« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2016, 12:05:21 am »
Well, I am not "assuming" anything, it is my observation around my professional peers. Yours is different, which is fine.

Check the Facebook poll in another thread? Less than 50% here use it.

The expression YMMV was created for a reason.   This is one of them.

We have one opinion by a member from their observations and we have a poll that shows 49% DO have a FB account with three quarters of those using it on some sort of regular basis.

Let's not get too embroiled in the argument.
 

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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2016, 06:10:51 am »
I would have preferred to enter once for the whole month. Entering once a day was a bit annoying.

I prefer websites free of scripts because I use NoScript for security reasons.

I know, every code has bugs, but a website designed to advertise a hightech company conveys a better professional image if it is bug free. Especially the link to the winner list comes to mind. You fixed it moderately fast though. :).
 

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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2016, 09:47:29 am »
I'll second (third, fourth?) the notion of having more variety for the next promotion. Keysight makes a variety of equipment at different price points to fit different needs. So, for a giveaway with the most mindshare, entries, watchers, buzz, etc., do more than just one type of instrument (e.g., single units of high-end items, various bundles of other equipment).
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« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2016, 10:52:03 am »
- voting several times a day seems really.... odd. I've never seen another competition work this way, and I'm not sure I see what it achieves besides placing a burden on those who vote, to keep coming back to make sure their support carries as much weight as other peoples'.
I find this quite odd also. I can't see the logic in having to vote three times instead of just once unless KS envisages that a voter may want to split their vote between two or three entrants and not just one.

I don't know that this would happen often, but it makes it a burden for everyone who is just voting for one entrant.

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« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2016, 11:40:44 pm »
How about only people who have entered the draw for the giveaways being allowed to vote on the presentations?  They have presumably already been screened to be real people who want an oscilloscope.  And if any of them are just opportunists looking for any old prize they probably won't bother to vote.

Wont work, as the entrants are biased towards themselves. The tactical voting for a biased person would be to vote on the persons with the least to gain (i.e, the ones that already at the bottom), thereby making sure they wont be hurting their own chances in the process.

I'm talking about the thousands of people who entered the main daily drawing voting for the dozen or so video presenters.  Not just the video presenters voting!
 

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« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2016, 02:58:45 am »

For the video competition:
I agree - NO facebook ....
Then - issue 3 votes for the videos- but only allow 1 vote for 1 contestant per day - so you are forced to put votes on 3 different people. And if you don't vote for 3 different people - remove ALL votes from the count. That kind of make the price for buying votes 3 times as high as most place charge per vote...

anyway - rest of scopemonth - I would suggest a "pick as you want" - so a contest where you win V$xxxx in virtual vouchers - which you can then spend on what you need vs what you have too much in stock off. >:D   And better with more and smaller prices than each one getting $10.000+ worth. Maybe a daily $5000, $3000, 2 x $1000 price or something like that.

Another more permanent suggestion: When you "discontinue" products could you "donate" the soft license keys (or license key generator)  for options for those products - to a place like EEVBlog? So struggling artists :) and hobbyist would be able to "spec up" old / used 2nd/3rd/4th hand gear without resorting to "hacking" - but bid/buy/beg/request licenses for good purpose. That would make the 2nd hand market more "valuable" for hobby users if they could buy for example Memory Option or Protocol Decoder for "out of date" products. That would at least make them consider older HaPikeylent products vs newer hack-able Chinese brands :) No point in buying an old high end HP/Agilent scope if serial decoder costs 10 times more than the scope does 2nd hand - if you can even FIND/buy a bloody license code for it.... I do know it might have some business implications - but if it is for "hobby/limited small business" use only - it would be good PR and might even be tax deductible... - So a bit like Microsoft run's their "SMB" Developer programs where you get access to all MS software for reduced pricing.


 
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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2016, 10:48:27 am »
Another more permanent suggestion: When you "discontinue" products could you "donate" the soft license keys (or license key generator)  for options for those products - to a place like EEVBlog? So struggling artists :) and hobbyist would be able to "spec up" old / used 2nd/3rd/4th hand gear without resorting to "hacking" - but bid/buy/beg/request licenses for good purpose. That would make the 2nd hand market more "valuable" for hobby users if they could buy for example Memory Option or Protocol Decoder for "out of date" products. That would at least make them consider older HaPikeylent products vs newer hack-able Chinese brands :) No point in buying an old high end HP/Agilent scope if serial decoder costs 10 times more than the scope does 2nd hand - if you can even FIND/buy a bloody license code for it.... I do know it might have some business implications - but if it is for "hobby/limited small business" use only - it would be good PR and might even be tax deductible... - So a bit like Microsoft run's their "SMB" Developer programs where you get access to all MS software for reduced pricing.

Not exactly a competition topic - but an interesting idea.  It could give the 'taste' for Keysight products and features to those who may not be able to justify such an expense at that point in time as well as starting them on a path where they will need more current tech further down the road.

However, I can see business issues and priorities being a major factor in whether such a move would be implemented.
 

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« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2016, 02:19:08 am »
Just out of curiosity: where can one find all the videos from the participants in the Keysight 6000X giveaway?

I have seen the video from Carlos, but just wanted to see the other videos as well, to get an idea on the creativity of the other participants :)
 

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« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2016, 04:28:42 am »
I kinda wish it was open to more people. That it wouldn't be restricted.


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« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2016, 05:23:53 am »
Just out of curiosity: where can one find all the videos from the participants in the Keysight 6000X giveaway?

I have seen the video from Carlos, but just wanted to see the other videos as well, to get an idea on the creativity of the other participants :)

They will be released, we just haven't figured out yet what that will look like specifically.

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« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2016, 06:06:18 am »
I have no idea how you'd do it but please try to give scopes away to people who actually want them and can use them. One of your winners has their 3014T listed for sale on craigslist(and they haven't even received it yet). It makes me sad as there are those of us who would have given one a special place in our labs. I'm a massive HP/Agilent/Keysight fan, a 3104T would have been a dream come true to have at home.
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« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2016, 06:32:23 am »
I'm not sure any of us is in a position to know what a winner's circumstances are, what value the scope has to them, and how.

I freely admit, if I'd won, my prize scope would have been straight on Ebay, but not because I can't or wouldn't make good use of one. Quite the opposite; I have a small business doing R&D, and a good scope is an essential piece of everyday equipment. It's how I make a living and provide for my family.

However, I'm fortunate enough to have been in a position to afford the scope I need, rather than being held up for need of one - but, of course, that means the money I've spent on a scope is money I can't now spend on a new bike, or a holiday, or vet's bills for my cat, or whatever.

If I'd won a scope, then by selling it I'd simply be getting back what I've already had to spend to buy one. Two scopes both end up on benches where, presumably, they're put to good use.

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« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2016, 06:55:46 am »
I have no idea how you'd do it but please try to give scopes away to people who actually want them and can use them.

Yeah, it'd be ideal to get them only to worthy ones, but pretty hard to do in practice.
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« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2016, 07:04:42 am »
I have no idea how you'd do it but please try to give scopes away to people who actually want them and can use them. One of your winners has their 3014T listed for sale on craigslist(and they haven't even received it yet). It makes me sad as there are those of us who would have given one a special place in our labs. I'm a massive HP/Agilent/Keysight fan, a 3104T would have been a dream come true to have at home.

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« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2016, 07:08:06 am »
Is that really so bad?
Yes, I at least selected the option 'I don't need a scope right now' when entering the contest  |O
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« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2016, 07:24:28 am »
I have no idea how you'd do it but please try to give scopes away to people who actually want them and can use them.

Yeah, it'd be ideal to get them only to worthy ones, but pretty hard to do in practice.

Yep, I realize it is probably not possible. And it is a contest, so the winner is free to do whatever they want with it. Just sucks is all...
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« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2016, 07:57:59 am »
Agreed, Steve. C'est la vie.
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« Reply #60 on: April 30, 2016, 12:47:34 am »
I wanted to create a new thread to talk about Scope Month.  What you liked or didn't like, what we should or shouldn't do again, what you want next year, etc.

This is a chance for you all to give me & the team direct feedback as we plan for 2017!  Thanks for a great ride!

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I personally enjoyed the Scope Month, especially the 2 minutes guru video.

I am working in Japan, more software engineering focus, but used to work for Japanese manufacturing company and had a lot of chance to work with hardware engineers with oscilloscope.
Some how, I do not see much Keysignt oscilloscope in Japan right now.
I see a lot of Tektronix (used to be called Sony Tektronix in Japan), Yokogawa, Iwatsu and Texio.
Could be because of Tektronix was able to use Sony sales channel, and YHP had to split with HP and Yokogawa in late 90s and had to compete with Yokogawa.

So event like the scope month should improve the recognition in Japan market for Keysight since the Keysight's scope is better than Tektronix in my personal opinion.

For the having the next Scope Month, it might suit better in Japan if the model was DSO-X 3054T.
I do not know the real reason behind but Tekronix MSO/DPO/MDO/TDS 3054 models are extremely widely spread in Japan,
and 3054 is kind of defacto model.

Also it might be nice to have Scope Month special soft case of some kind of none expensive special accessories with big logo which have both "Keysight" and "Scope Month".
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I am planning to update the chart to include DSOX3054T, just did not have spare time recently.
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Thank you for the good event Daniel! :)
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« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2016, 01:28:24 am »
Whatever you do, and however you do, please don't use Facebook in any way shape or form.
Seriously, engineers loath Facebook.

seconded.

I have no FB account and it would take more than an act of god for me to subscribe to that BS.

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« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2016, 01:46:54 am »
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« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2016, 08:23:42 pm »
I'm not quite clear what you have to do if you want to win one of the scopes.
Keysight's website doesn't help anyway...

http://www.keysight.com/main/editorial.jspx?cc=DE&lc=ger&ckey=2674667&nid=-32546.0.00&id=2674667&cmpid=zzfindscopemonth.com
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« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2017, 12:33:58 pm »
This will be fun...
I can always use another scope.
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« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2017, 12:45:54 pm »

Sorry?????   :-// :-// :-//
 

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« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2017, 03:45:08 pm »
Thanks for running these contests.   The only requests I have is to please never do them via Facebook or Twitter.
 
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« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2017, 03:48:37 pm »
Thanks for running these contests.   The only requests I have is to please never do them via Facebook or Twitter.

I hear ya. There will definitely be some components that include Facebook and/or Twitter, but we try to keep those as optional.
 
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« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2017, 03:17:56 pm »
My own fault, but I was peeved to find out my country is not eligible
after providing details.
Something your site could filter or let you know while submitting.

Now of course, I still get the spam about the competition.
 

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« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2017, 04:22:00 pm »
Thanks Daniel / Keysight.  I appreciate the contests.  And also that it is open to "just individuals" and not only people affiliated with larger companies.  I have fallen into both categories over the time scale of your contests over the past years and it is nice to not be excluded regardless of present status.

I agree with the previous comment, "Facebook", "Twitter", "Instagram", "LinkedIn", et. al. are on my "do not use under any circumstances" list.  If I want to interact with Keysight or some vendor's internet presence I go to their own direct web site, that's why it is there and it should have directly on it all relevant content that they want to make available on the internet.  That also goes for videos vs. hosting them on YouTube or whatever.  No reason not to just link the files on one's own branded / run web site, particularly for a larger company with a professionally run web presence.

Along those lines I'd say as a generality I never find something like the 3rd party spredfast site frame or particularly the Google captcha you use a welcome experience on anyone's web site -- particularly since the captchas have gotten so bad over the years that I often find that it takes ~5+ tries even to get them "right" despite careful inspection and consideration so that's beyond frustrating and almost invariably  just makes me give up on the visiting the relevant site permanently due to having my time wasted over something that I don't have to deal with anyway.  As a positive note, though, at least I have found the ones  used on the scopemonth / spredfast contest's site to be at least relatively easily soluble for my eyes/brain on the first try.  I don't know if there are multiple "difficulty categories" of them and your choice was just a more moderate setting or if they had just gotten so out of control in general that they had to dial them back to a level that mere humans could actually reasonably solve without despair but anyway at least they've only been "annoying" rather than "intolerable" as they usually had been the unrelated few other times I've seen them over the past year or so.

Thanks for running these contests.   The only requests I have is to please never do them via Facebook or Twitter.

I hear ya. There will definitely be some components that include Facebook and/or Twitter, but we try to keep those as optional.
 
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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2017, 03:15:48 am »
My only disappointment with scope month is to see people who don't use/don't want or already have good scopes just sign up so they can get an expensive scope to sell. And I see it on eBay and it just seems like a waste because there are people who would actually use it but can't afford a more expensive scope. But that's just my opinion and my frustration.
 

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« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2017, 05:19:10 am »
For me it would be the first digital scope on the bench.
It would certanly get used, I might even give up the Tek 466.
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« Reply #72 on: March 06, 2017, 06:22:38 am »
March has become my new favorite month. :)
 
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« Reply #73 on: March 06, 2017, 08:34:58 am »
My only disappointment with scope month is to see people who don't use/don't want or already have good scopes just sign up so they can get an expensive scope to sell. And I see it on eBay and it just seems like a waste because there are people who would actually use it but can't afford a more expensive scope. But that's just my opinion and my frustration.

If it makes you feel any better - I use my winning scope daily. Amazing opportunity to step up to the next level which is exactly what I am doing. There will certainly be some that just sell it and someone else gets a good deal, but not entirely free. Most of the ones sold were way below the purchase price too.

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« Reply #74 on: March 06, 2017, 11:59:14 am »
Magic on the Big Screen!!


... and that 6000X has a gorgeous Big Screen.
 

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« Reply #75 on: March 06, 2017, 08:05:40 pm »
My only disappointment with scope month is to see people who don't use/don't want or already have good scopes just sign up so they can get an expensive scope to sell. And I see it on eBay and it just seems like a waste because there are people who would actually use it but can't afford a more expensive scope. But that's just my opinion and my frustration.

If it makes you feel any better - I use my winning scope daily. Amazing opportunity to step up to the next level which is exactly what I am doing. There will certainly be some that just sell it and someone else gets a good deal, but not entirely free. Most of the ones sold were way below the purchase price too.

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« Reply #76 on: March 07, 2017, 05:25:18 am »
Sensible? Upon winning high-end test gear, one seeks out things to measure. :-DD
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« Reply #77 on: March 08, 2017, 12:47:49 am »
Sensible? Upon winning high-end test gear, one seeks out things to measure. :-DD

Well, if I win one (fingers crossed), I will certainly find some use for it.  >:D If I had to pay for one out of my pocket that would be a different story, though.
 

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« Reply #78 on: March 08, 2017, 04:38:09 am »
I wanted to create a new thread to talk about Scope Month.  What you liked or didn't like, what we should or shouldn't do again, what you want next year, etc.

This is a chance for you all to give me & the team direct feedback as we plan for 2017!  Thanks for a great ride!

-Daniel

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« Reply #79 on: March 08, 2017, 10:45:05 pm »
Daniel, could you sent an automatic registration e-mail to confirm each registration?
 
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« Reply #80 on: March 09, 2017, 02:24:56 am »
Daniel, could you sent an automatic registration e-mail to confirm each registration?

Our infrastructure makes this pretty tough. You should either get to a confirmation screen or get an error. If you don't get an error your entry was accepted.
 
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« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2017, 09:26:45 am »
Daniel,
Can you make a special for the scope month that you buy the basic 1000X at the basic price but you get the scope loaded with all the options?  :) :-+
 

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« Reply #82 on: March 12, 2017, 11:58:15 am »
Daniel,
Can you make a special for the scope month that you buy the basic 1000X at the basic price but you get the scope loaded with all the options?  :) :-+

If they did this they get my money for sure! I need a scope for the home lab I'm finally building. I this was the case Keysight gets my money for sure.
 

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« Reply #83 on: March 12, 2017, 03:01:01 pm »
Daniel,
Can you make a special for the scope month that you buy the basic 1000X at the basic price but you get the scope loaded with all the options?  :) :-+

Interesting thought...

Daniel - care to take this idea up the line?
 

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« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2017, 07:21:00 am »
Daniel,
Can you make a special for the scope month that you buy the basic 1000X at the basic price but you get the scope loaded with all the options?  :) :-+

If they did this they get my money for sure!

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« Reply #85 on: March 14, 2017, 02:48:10 am »
I'll take it into consideration!

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #86 on: March 14, 2017, 01:19:44 pm »
Just had a go at the Australian scope giveaway this morning.  :-+

Didn't read the question thoroughly enough.

Answer needed active probes - I put one passive and one active! Doh!!! |O

I was in too much of a rush to get the answer in as it is the first two correct answers that are the winners. :palm:

You need to be accurate and quick - not a natural state of affairs at my end of the life spectrum.  :palm:

I'll give it another go next week (I know what to expect this time).  :)
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« Reply #87 on: March 14, 2017, 01:34:01 pm »
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Didn't read the question thoroughly enough.

Answer needed active probes - I put one passive and one active! Doh!!! |O

I was in too much of a rush to get the answer in...

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Yep, I did the exact same thing!  |O
 

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« Reply #88 on: March 14, 2017, 01:37:21 pm »
Yep, I did the exact same thing!  |O
So I'm not the only loser this week - nice to have some company.  :-DD
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« Reply #89 on: March 14, 2017, 02:45:13 pm »
You had me worried there for a minute....  so I went and checked where I got my answer from.  Looks like I got it right!

My only stuff up also came from rushing ..... I missed the link to the blog - and just went for the Google-fu path.  I got there pretty quickly - but I know I would have been quicker by just clicking the link supplied.  Which means there is quite probably someone out there that was.

Oh well - two to go.
 

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« Reply #90 on: March 14, 2017, 03:37:19 pm »
You had me worried there for a minute....  so I went and checked where I got my answer from.  Looks like I got it right!

My only stuff up also came from rushing ..... I missed the link to the blog - and just went for the Google-fu path.  I got there pretty quickly - but I know I would have been quicker by just clicking the link supplied.  Which means there is quite probably someone out there that was.
Congratulations on getting it right.  :-+

Hope you were quick enough to be in the top two!  :popcorn:
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« Reply #91 on: March 14, 2017, 03:43:40 pm »
That would be nice - but we will have to wait until at least tomorrow to find out.
 

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« Reply #92 on: March 14, 2017, 10:02:53 pm »
Daniel,
Can you make a special for the scope month that you buy the basic 1000X at the basic price but you get the scope loaded with all the options?  :) :-+

Can you elaborate? The basic one does not have upgradeable BW nor does it have wave gen. If you mean pay for the EDUX1002A but receive a DSOX1102G with both decodes then hell ya, sign me up. I could put the Rigol 1054Z out of my mind. I bet they would sell a butt load of them too.
 

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« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2017, 02:10:07 am »
I was thinking the options would be software key type upgrade options.  I suppose they could look at hardware options as well, but software keys would be enough to get my attention if I was in the market.
 

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2017, 02:32:27 pm »
Still no competition results posted by Keysight for last Tuesday comp (Aust). 

Do they take a few days to update?   :popcorn:

You'll have to wait a little longer Brumby!   :-DD
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« Reply #95 on: March 16, 2017, 03:36:08 pm »
Not feeling hopeful.

As I said - I took a slightly longer route to the information and that's all I needed to do wrong to give myself a handicap.

Will just have to psych myself up for the next one - and hope my timetable is free at the time.


I suspect the delay in posting the winners might be because Keysight are going through the process of confirming the winners.  As I haven't been contacted, I can't see me being in the running.
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« Reply #96 on: March 16, 2017, 04:02:52 pm »
Not feeling hopeful.

As I said - I took a slightly longer route to the information and that's all I needed to do wrong to give myself a handicap.
Ah, but maybe a lot of punters made the stupid mistake I made in the race to be ahead of everyone else!  :palm:

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Will just have to psych myself up for the next one...
Me too  :-+

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I suspect the delay in posting the winners might be because Keysight are going through the process of confirming the winners.  As I haven't been contacted, I can't see me being in the running.
You could be right, unfortunately.  :scared:
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« Reply #97 on: March 16, 2017, 04:28:57 pm »
Brumby, I don't want to get your hopes up, but the decision has to be made by the judging panel of three judges (isn't Dave one?) and so they would have to wait until the panel can find time to get together. They are the ones who decide if the question was answered correctly, so Keysight cannot start contacting people before then I guess.
 

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« Reply #98 on: March 16, 2017, 05:28:55 pm »
Let's do some numbers....

I don't know how many people entered, but let's say there were 1,000.

Then let's say only a quarter of those responded within 2 minutes of the question going live ... 250.

Now let's say that because of hurrying, 80% of those got something wrong ... 50.

That leaves me with 50 direct competitors that I gave an advantage of maybe 10 seconds or so - which is huge in this context.  And if the actual numbers of people entering was greater, my odds are even less.


I know a win shared here would give everyone a lift - but I believe your hopes in my direction should be rested.


Besides, I may have used up all my scope-winning karma many years ago.  Back in the 80s I won a Hitachi V152B CRO from Dick Smith by doing a crossword puzzle.  It's a little bruised, but it still works fine.  Not sure how the calibration is, though.  It's the only real scope I've ever had.  I do have a DSO138 kit I made up - but that doesn't really count.
 

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #99 on: March 21, 2017, 12:50:59 pm »
 |O |O |O |O

 :rant: Damn, damn, damn - I forgot to enter today's Australia's competition.

Argh! :palm:
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« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2017, 01:04:50 pm »
I remembered.... but I don't know if I was quick enough (again).

Picked up a chill on the weekend and last night it turned into a head cold.  Feels like there are razor blades down my throat and somebody put a vice across the front of my head.  A bit of adrenaline got me through, but it felt like wading through molasses.
 

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« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2017, 02:12:48 pm »
|O |O |O |O

 :rant: Damn, damn, damn - I forgot to enter today's Australia's competition.

Argh! :palm:


Yep, same... Busy++ at work, and totally forgot.
 

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2017, 02:18:36 pm »
@Brumby
I take it you were not a "Winner, winner - chicken dinner" from last week?

Maybe winning one this week will overcome the cold with all the endorphins and whatever flowing through your body!  >:D

Good luck anyway!

@Chig
I was home but got too wrapped up in sorting out my resistor 'collection' and didn't remember until about 12:45.  :palm:
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« Reply #103 on: March 21, 2017, 02:42:20 pm »
Same. Was stuck in a very important( :o) and highly interesting( :=\) meeting at work.
Damn it.
 

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« Reply #104 on: March 21, 2017, 04:32:43 pm »
@Brumby
I take it you were not a "Winner, winner - chicken dinner" from last week?

Maybe winning one this week will overcome the cold with all the endorphins and whatever flowing through your body!  >:D

Good luck anyway!

The closest I came in last week's competition was some chicken and corn soup for lunch today.  Nice hot soup felt good going down.

In the remote event of winning this week, I will still be feeling like crap - but I would have a smile on my face.

Thank you for the wishes.



Oh crap.

I just read the question properly.   |O

I answered for the wrong scope - and the answers were not the same.    |O |O |O |O |O
 

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« Reply #105 on: March 21, 2017, 10:07:23 pm »
Oh crap.

I just read the question properly.   |O

I answered for the wrong scope - and the answers were not the same.    |O |O |O |O |O

Blame it on the cold/flu rather than any brain fade.  ;D

Anyway, I suspect we may end up not being able to use the scope properly (should we happen to win) due to sustained brain damage from all the head-banging we are doing!  :-DD :-DD :-DD
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« Reply #106 on: March 21, 2017, 10:41:20 pm »
You could be right.  I can see myself setting up a Lissajous figure and leaving it run.  Makes a bench look interesting to an outsider...





Yeah ... that's all I've got at the moment.
 

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« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2017, 10:57:11 am »
Daniel needs to wear a Superman T-shirt under his sport coat. ;D
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« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2017, 11:05:53 am »
I can see myself setting up a Lissajous figure and leaving it run.  Makes a bench look interesting to an outsider...
They may think you watch the ABC on your scope all day.  :-DD :-DD
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« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2017, 11:09:06 am »
Oh, Lordy....  :palm:
 

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« Reply #110 on: March 25, 2017, 12:18:25 am »
How come I didn't win one yet?  :-//

 

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« Reply #111 on: March 25, 2017, 02:23:25 am »
TRY it keep all countries in the contest inclusing the countries which were in past giveaways but not in 2017  :-DD poor me thought i was in this giveway too as my country was also in 2016 one but  apprently tems and conditions changed  :palm:
 

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« Reply #112 on: March 25, 2017, 04:49:34 am »
How come I didn't win one yet?  :-//

Probably the same reason I haven't either. :-//

Still a few days remaining...
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« Reply #113 on: March 26, 2017, 05:57:39 am »
I'm wondering if any of the winners have started getting their scopes shipped yet?
My name was picked on the 8th and I e-mailed the forms they sent me on the 11th then got back an automated response so it would be interesting to get an idea when the first winners start getting their stuff. Of course I don't know how many of them are following this thread.

It doesn't matter if it takes a while to sort all of these scopes and winners out but I'm sure most winners are hoping nothing gets mixed up.
I'm also wondering if the winners get a tracking number like when you buy stuff online or will they just randomly show up at their address?

I really hate to sound impatient considering I'm getting a great scope for free but since I've never won anything, this is not the time for me to be shy about asking questions.
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« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2017, 01:14:59 pm »
First of all: Congratulations!    :-+ :clap: :clap:

IIRC: The scopes will be shipped after the sweepstakes.
(Probably in one big bunch, all won scopes at once.)
They will be shipped from the factory in Taiwan. (Or this time from China?)

This year there is something different:
This year is no distributor asked. It seems, the scopes will be send to the
regional KS offices and from there to the winner.
The last part (KS office -> Winner) should give a message with tracking
information for you.

Direct shipment from the factory to the winner (with message about tracking
information) is a possible solution, too.
But this would be bad for winners in the EU: In this case occurs Import Tax.

Anyways: No reason to worry. It is simply too early at this time.

My guess: Your scope arrives in the second week of April.
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« Reply #115 on: March 27, 2017, 05:59:34 am »
First of all: Congratulations!    :-+ :clap: :clap:

IIRC: The scopes will be shipped after the sweepstakes.
(Probably in one big bunch, all won scopes at once.)
They will be shipped from the factory in Taiwan. (Or this time from China?)

This year there is something different:
This year is no distributor asked. It seems, the scopes will be send to the
regional KS offices and from there to the winner.
The last part (KS office -> Winner) should give a message with tracking
information for you.

Direct shipment from the factory to the winner (with message about tracking
information) is a possible solution, too.
But this would be bad for winners in the EU: In this case occurs Import Tax.

Anyways: No reason to worry. It is simply too early at this time.

My guess: Your scope arrives in the second week of April.

That sounds reasonable.  :-+
I'm glad I got up the nerve to ask because I didn't want to sound like I was annoyed and it's easy to misinterpret the tone of people's messages online.

By the way... Are you an employee of Keysight, or maybe a distributor?
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« Reply #116 on: March 27, 2017, 10:39:18 am »

No. I am just one of the big, bad, evil germans  >:D which nowadays try to stay calm, keep their mind and being friendly.  :)
(Unfortunatly there be exceptions, as everywhere. E.g. the unforgettable german hero from the KS sweepstake last year,
let´s call him "Sebastian"...)  :palm:

How I have knowledge about the handling of the won oscilloscopes?
The answer is simple: I have observed the scopemonth 2016 and the Agilent/Keysight sweepstakes since many years.   8)

And: No, you are not annoying. You be excited about your new oscilloscope and it is hard for you to wait for the arrival of it.
That should be very easy understandable for everyone...   
 
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« Reply #117 on: March 27, 2017, 07:11:32 pm »
I'm glad I got up the nerve to ask because I didn't want to sound like I was annoyed and it's easy to misinterpret the tone of people's messages online.

Your awareness is appreciated, but relax...

And: No, you are not annoying. You be excited about your new oscilloscope and it is hard for you to wait for the arrival of it.
That should be very easy understandable for everyone...   



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« Reply #118 on: March 28, 2017, 01:58:05 am »
The scopes should ship directly from the factory to the winners within 6 weeks from 31-Mar. It's much, much easier to deal with fulfillment all at once. But, if you have something going on and just can't wait to get your scope, it's potentially possible to get some out the door earlier. To make that happen, talk to the individual that contacts you with the winner info & forms.
 
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« Reply #119 on: March 28, 2017, 07:49:32 am »
can't wait to get me some post scopemonth ebay bargains  :box:
 

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« Reply #120 on: March 28, 2017, 07:55:45 am »
Hehe, yes. I guess one could consider it a consolation prize.
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« Reply #121 on: March 30, 2017, 01:22:20 pm »
Well, that's it for me on the Australian competition.

I wasted a couple of extra seconds refreshing, when the question link had already appeared - just in a different spot to previously.   :palm:

At least I think I have the answer right this time and the Captcha didn't need a lot of typing, but after several attempts, I am somewhat philosophical.  We'll see.

It's been fun, though.



To Daniel and Keysight - thank you for the opportunity to participate.
 

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« Reply #122 on: March 30, 2017, 02:56:53 pm »
To Daniel and Keysight - thank you for the opportunity to participate.
:-+ :-+

Yep, I'm in too, but ~1.5 hours late  :--

Damn work and their stupid pointless meetings-R-us culture  :rant:
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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #123 on: March 30, 2017, 11:50:58 pm »
I was out when the comp was run - tried to use the smart phone to enter but I'm so slow using a phone that by the time I got my contact details in and started to search for the answer I somehow wiped the data already entered. |O

Gave up at this point as I would have been too late in any case (I might have had a chance using the PC at home - I'm much quicker on that than the phone). :palm:

Oh well - there is always next year (I hope). 

Thanks for the chance anyway Daniel and Keysight! :clap:
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« Reply #124 on: March 31, 2017, 11:31:18 am »
The results for the Australian competition are finalised.... and, no, I am not among them  :(

Congratulations to all the winners - and a big thank you to Keysight for making the effort to bring something down under.  :-+


One wonders what may be planned for next year  ;D
 
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« Reply #125 on: April 01, 2017, 11:48:58 pm »
Congratulations to all the winners.  :-+ :-+
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« Reply #126 on: April 02, 2017, 04:27:01 pm »
Congratulations to all the winners and thanks to Keysight and Daniel for the Scope Month.  :-+
I'm looking forward to next year. Maybe i'm lucky then.
 
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« Reply #127 on: April 02, 2017, 09:28:19 pm »
Yes, congratulations to all winners. Quite a few of them are on this forum, so the odds are actually very decent :)

Thank you Daniel for hosting and q&a, and please include The Netherlands in the eligible list for next years give away! ;)
 
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« Reply #128 on: April 07, 2017, 11:52:29 pm »
as a working australian i found it very difficult to have a fair chance at winning one of these scopes in the end i didnt participate the last 2 times just out of the sheer disappointment felt knowing i had zero hope and you probably seen me comment on some of the videos. im sure its been asked but my only question is why was the contest run so diversely in australia and canada in comparison to australia ?  i know i just sound like sour puss now.
 

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« Reply #129 on: April 08, 2017, 12:07:04 am »
Has anybody been given any shipping info yet?
 

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Re: Keysight Scope Month feedback
« Reply #130 on: April 08, 2017, 01:13:35 am »
Daniel, the scope month was very exciting and left me drooling over the advanced features of the 4000 series and the responsiveness of the 1000 series (I have an "R" brand 4000 series).

I didn't win anything, but as a consolation "prize" I got myself two NOS Keysight DMMs from a fire sale at an electronics store. I am shooting a review for my channel.

One question, though: you mentioned that some of the winners could not receive the oscilloscopes and there would be some re-drawn names. Did this happen yet? I couldn't find anything on the Keysight FB or YT channels.
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« Reply #131 on: April 08, 2017, 02:27:48 am »
The re-draw hasn't happened yet, and won't happen until we get paperwork from the original winners. I'll try to remember to post here once that happens.
 
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« Reply #132 on: April 11, 2017, 01:15:55 am »
Do you wait for all the paperwork from the winners to be sorted before sending them out?
I'm assuming Canadian winners like myself aren't too much trouble other than the bizarre skill testing question requirement :)

I checked my e-mail a few minutes ago and saw two from Keysight. One was the e-mail saying that your country isn't eligible and the other was the e-mail saying "PLEASE DISREGARD THE EMAIL THAT WAS JUST SENT OUT
THERE WAS AN ERROR WITH OUR DATA THAT SENT THE INELIGIBILITY EMAIL TO ALL WINNERS."
Wow, that was a relief.  :phew:
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« Reply #133 on: April 11, 2017, 01:19:05 am »
Has anybody been given any shipping info yet?

No, not yet. I'm assuming they've got lots of different laws from all the different countries to deal with.
 

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« Reply #134 on: April 11, 2017, 01:49:55 am »
Daniel,

Thank you for the contest. Please have an email sent to the address entered to verify that you received the entry. It was unclear if entries went through ok. Some browsers popup blocker would block the "thanks for entering" message. Also explain the facebook popup thing after entry. It was unclear if FB was needed or not.
 

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« Reply #135 on: April 11, 2017, 03:28:56 am »
Noted!

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« Reply #136 on: April 15, 2017, 07:01:32 am »
Wow! The Test to Impress contest fished out some serious talent this year. Fantastic to see that.

I want to make friends with the winner and learn from him. What a cool project.
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« Reply #137 on: April 15, 2017, 11:43:42 am »
Same here; the winners have the power to put their scopes to serious work indeed! I am thoroughly impressed.
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« Reply #138 on: April 17, 2017, 10:39:30 am »
Some of the Test To Impress people would make good Amp Hour guests.
 

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« Reply #139 on: April 18, 2017, 01:40:03 am »
Some of the Test To Impress people would make good Amp Hour guests.

Totally - start with one of last year's winners, lol.
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« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2017, 10:29:59 am »
Some of the Test To Impress people would make good Amp Hour guests.

Totally - start with one of last year's winners, lol.

So, your recommendation is for sure: The high tech water heater inventing lady. Correct...?   :-DD
 

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« Reply #141 on: April 18, 2017, 11:31:26 am »
It is safe to say that many people want to know how a 6Ghz SMPS for induction heating is saving the world, lol.
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« Reply #142 on: April 18, 2017, 07:32:13 pm »
is there an australian price list for these scopes ? and 2 as a hobbyist will the prices make me cry ? :-BROKE
 

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« Reply #143 on: April 18, 2017, 07:35:45 pm »
There are some MRSP out there.

and...

Probably.  Just Google a model number and pick a merchant...
 

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« Reply #144 on: April 18, 2017, 09:32:30 pm »
So will we get our scopes soon now eastern holidays are over and 2 weeks have passed since last draw?

My myDaq just keeps crashing and constant rebooting is not the way to go  :horse:
 

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« Reply #145 on: April 19, 2017, 12:16:38 am »
It is getting closer, but I wouldn't be holding my breath just yet.....

The scopes should ship directly from the factory to the winners within 6 weeks from 31-Mar. It's much, much easier to deal with fulfillment all at once. But, if you have something going on and just can't wait to get your scope, it's potentially possible to get some out the door earlier. To make that happen, talk to the individual that contacts you with the winner info & forms.

FYI, there will be a text list of all winners once all winners have been finalized, and all winners will receive an e-mail with info if they haven't already. In the next couple weeks there will be an offline re-draw for any winners that were ineligible or choose not to accept, and those winners will be contacted via e-mail but not announced on YouTube.

Thanks for a great month, I'll be back online on Monday!

The re-draw hasn't happened yet, and won't happen until we get paperwork from the original winners. I'll try to remember to post here once that happens.

... and, once shipped, they still have to find their way to the recipients.  It could still be mid-May before they turn up.
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« Reply #146 on: April 19, 2017, 06:17:21 am »

FYI, there will be a text list of all winners once all winners have been finalized, and all winners will receive an e-mail with info if they haven't already. In the next couple weeks there will be an offline re-draw for any winners that were ineligible or choose not to accept, and those winners will be contacted via e-mail but not announced on YouTube.

Thanks for a great month, I'll be back online on Monday!

Brumby, it is funny how your post just highlighted the date in Daniel's mention about a redraw...  :-DD
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