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Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« on: January 17, 2018, 06:10:16 pm »
Hi everyone, I'm very excited to finally announce Scope Month 2018 Wave 2018!

Thanks to the overwhelmingly positive response from this group and other engineers like you, we're expanding Scope Month to cover more than just Oscilloscopes. And, if we're all being honest with each other, a month is pretty long for an event like this. So, we're condensing the event into a 2-ish week period - March 1-16.

So, the name obviously had to change. Love it or hate it, I've personally become quite fond of the name.

And, of course there's a stellar daily giveaway worth over $30k USD. Winners will get to choose between one of two prize options:
 
1.   Bench bundle – 500 MHz MSOX3054T, 33622A waveform generator, E36313A 3x output power supply, U1282A handheld, 34470A DMM
2.   RF Bundle – N9918A 26.5 GHz FieldFox with both VNA and Spec An options + N7555A ECal kit

We've also put together some new eBooks and tips plus a couple other surprises for you.

Register at https://www.wavekeysight.com/

(wave.keysight.com also redirects to the above URL)

We'll live kick off on 1-Mar on the Keysight Labs YouTube channel (formerly "Keysight Oscilloscopes").

You can get one entry between now and 28-February, and one entry per day during the event. Bonus entries for social media stuff as outlined on the confirmation page.

I'm happy to field questions here, so ask away. But, I can't answer tax or eligibility questions - I'm not a legal or tax expert and cannot offer advice in those areas.

I will say that I fight hard to include as many people & countries as possible, but an event of this magnitude will inevitably run into local roadblocks.

I'm super excited for this March, good luck to everyone!


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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2018, 06:18:00 pm »
Mandatory info which I believe lots of people will be interested, cut copied & pasted from the TC page.

At least this will save people from the excluded countries a few mouse clicks.  :P

This promotion is limited to specific countries and is only open to entrants aged 18 years or older at the time of submission who are legal residents of, and physically located within, Austria, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Chile, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Japan, Korea Republic of, Poland, South Africa, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States (excluding Florida, New York, and Rhode Island), and Venezuela.

Edit : Just curious why Venezuela is included, I thought as now, the people there are still fighting for food ?  :-//
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2018, 06:24:50 pm »
Just curious why Florida, NewYork, and Rhode Island have been excluded : I thought that people there are NOT fighting for food ?
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2018, 06:45:13 pm »
What a great opportunity again.
Thank you!
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2018, 10:31:17 pm »

I will say that I fight hard to include as many people & countries as possible, but an event of this magnitude will inevitably run into local roadblocks.


Perhaps an answer to the eligibility thing is to give the option to trade part of the prize for a return flight to collect in person  :)
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2018, 11:42:43 pm »
Wow so great. Thanks for posting it here!  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Too bad thought that it is (again) a suscribe and win thing.
I liked the concept you used for "power up my bench" much more. Since you have to put some effort in it limits the number of people to enter and would allow you to select people who actually need / use / apprechiate your devices instead of selling them off as quickly as possible...
If you see a "edit" on my post, assume it is a silly grammar / spelling error...
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2018, 04:52:30 am »
And again not allowed to participate , and no clue why but probably Keysight does not want to sell equipment in this country either  :)
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2018, 05:06:19 am »
2.   RF Bundle – N9918A 26.5 GHz FieldFox with both VNA and Spec An options + N7555A ECal kit

Hummana hummana hummana....  :popcorn:
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2018, 05:26:49 am »
And again not allowed to participate , and no clue why but probably Keysight does not want to sell equipment in this country either  :)
Exclusions like this are usually due to the country's laws on lotteries etc.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2018, 05:39:34 am »
I just found this summary on laws surrounding prize draws around the world
https://www.dlapiperintelligence.com/prizepromotions/insight/index.html?t=prize-draws

Even where allowed, there can be awkward ( for someone outside the country)  requirements for registration, permits etc.
 
e.g. for Italy :
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For Skills Competitions and Prize Draws, the winner must be selected either in the presence of an Italian Notary Public or an Officer of the Chamber of Commerce. In the case where the selection of winners is undertaken electronically, the results generated shall be certified by an expert.

Australia (NSW) :
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A permit is required for all trade promotion lotteries and games of chance conducted in NSW.

I wonder if Dave got a permit for his giveaways...?

There may also be issues with agreements with local distributors, and of course general market targetting.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2018, 06:44:45 am »
Exclusions like this are usually due to the country's laws on lotteries etc.
AFAIK in our country the law is you only need a permit to hold a lottery when the participants need to pay for a ticket or pay in order to participate. This is and can be seen as a form of gambling, game of chance.
In that sense this is not a lottery, it is a giveaway. Germany has the same laws for paid lotteries. For each won euro a german citizin should pay 25% lotterytax. So not much difference.
A large international company can think of many different forms to hold these draws, such as holding a beta testing program, supporting universities etc.
But I stop, I don't want to put more negative energy into this topic which is supposed to be a positive thing and at the end will make some lucky people very happy.

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Der Lotteriesteuer unterliegen im Inland veranstaltete öffentliche Lotterien und Ausspielungen. Von ihr werden neben der staatlichen Klassenlotterie vor allem das Zahlenlotto und grundsätzlich auch der Fußballtoto erfasst. Der Steuer unterliegen auch ausländische Lose und Spielausweise, wenn sie ins Inland eingebracht werden.

Bei inländischen öffentlichen Lotterien und Ausspielungen beträgt die Steuer 20 % des planmäßigen Preises (Nennwert) sämtlicher Lose oder des Wettscheines ausschließlich der Steuer.
bei ausländischen Losen und Spieleinlagen beträgt die Steuer 0,25 Euro für je einen Euro vom planmäßigen Preis; ein angefangener Euro wird wie ein ganzer berechnet.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2018, 07:57:13 am »
Exclusions like this are usually due to the country's laws on lotteries etc.
AFAIK in our country the law is you only need a permit to hold a lottery when the participants need to pay for a ticket or pay in order to participate. This is and can be seen as a form of gambling, game of chance.
In that sense this is not a lottery, it is a giveaway.
According to the above site, for NL under "other local requirements" :
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The prize value (whether for one prize or several prizes combined) must not exceed €100,000 in value per year

Maximum of one game of chance in relation to any product, service or organization per year, with a maximum of 20 drawings, ie a maximum of 20 occasions per year when winners can be selected which means that a maximum of 20 winners can be picked for the one game of chance.
Both of those restrictions would preclude the Keysight draw in its current form.

I think one problem is that most of these laws will date from before the Internet, and worldwide competitions were a thing, so probably don't consider how to deal with competitions based outside the country but availailable to people within it 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2018, 08:28:44 am »
A couple things:

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Wow so great. Thanks for posting it here!  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Too bad thought that it is (again) a suscribe and win thing.
I liked the concept you used for "power up my bench" much more. Since you have to put some effort in it limits the number of people to enter and would allow you to select people who actually need / use / apprechiate your devices instead of selling them off as quickly as possible...

We will be doing the "Test to Impress" contest again, so there WILL be a merit-based aspect to this event. We like the idea of a sweepstakes but also want to look out for people that have a lot of potential merit as well. If I recall correctly, the grand prize is a bundle of their choice, and a few runner up prizes are 1000 X-Series. So, both high end and lower end gear as prizes this time around.

Running events like this Australia a nightmare, but they are included in the South Asia Pacific event. My understanding is that contests are easier than sweepstakes.

Without going into specifics about certain countries, issues can include:
Total prize value too big/small
Individual prize value too big/small
Country/state requires a large cash payment or bond relative to prize size
Sweepstakes/contest must originate from local country
Sweepstakes (random draw) vs. Contests (merit-based) discrepancies



 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2018, 01:21:17 pm »
Ahhhh...

same procedure discussion as every year!

I hope
  • for Keysight: No disturbances during the sweepstakes (like last year).
  • for Germany: No second "Sebastian".   |O  :palm:  :-[
  • for everyone: Good luck!   :-+   :clap:
  • for me: To win a "Dream Bench"...
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2018, 02:04:53 pm »
So, the name obviously had to change. Love it or hate it, I've personally become quite fond of the name.

I, for one, welcome our new Wave overlords...right onto my bench. ;D Whatever it's called, thanks to Keysight for bringing it back with even more goodies. :-+
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2018, 02:12:52 pm »
why Venezuela is included, I thought as now, the people there are still fighting for food ?  :-//

Because people at Keysight are busy doing the right things and do not have time to attend brainwashing sessions.
 

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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2018, 11:28:25 pm »
Not elegible, again :(

Perhaps an answer to the eligibility thing is to give the option to trade part of the prize for a return flight to collect in person  :)

i like this idea  >:D

Good luck to all :)
 

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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2018, 12:32:06 am »
Well, I've put my name down.

I did not see what prizes are available and how they are selected/awarded.  The sort of info that is expressly detailed in the T's & C's.

Did I miss this?


The RF bundle is nice - but the bench bundle would get better use in my workshop.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2018, 12:43:19 am »
MSOX3054T   Oscilloscope, mixed signal, 4+16 channel, 500MHz   1
DSOXT3APPBNDL   SW application bundle license for 3000 XT-Series   1
33622A   33600A Series Waveform generator, 120 MHz, 2-channel   1
34470A (34465)   Digital multimeter, 7 1/2 digit, True volt DMM   1
E36313A   DC power supply, triple-output, 6 V, 10 A and 2 x 25 V, 2 A, 160 W: LAN, USB   1
U1282A   True RMS 60000 Count Handheld DMM   1

Wow, this is a serious bundle.
Belgium is included in the Wave 2018 - Test to Impress Contest.
You took feedback, and made multiple ways to get a price, basically allowing more countries to enter. Huge respect.
 
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2018, 01:58:59 am »
I'm going to try this again... I would sell my grandmother for 4 ch scope!

There were rumors that it was previously game-able by the creation of multiple email addresses.... hope it will be a level playing field this year.
 

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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2018, 02:18:09 am »
I'm going to try this again... I would sell my grandmother for 4 ch scope!



How old is your grandmother - and can she cook?  :-DD (checking for scopes around the house.......)
 

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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2018, 02:49:06 am »
Thanks for the heads up, Daniel. On the list again.

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2018, 05:38:52 am »
There were rumors that it was previously game-able by the creation of multiple email addresses.... hope it will be a level playing field this year.

I personally vet each of the winners to avoid this as much as possible, we did do a few redraws last year because the drawn winner consistently entered each day with multiple e-mails. I reserve the right to make that judgement call, so don't panic if it happens once or twice. It's usually pretty obvious when someone is trying to game the system.
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2018, 06:32:59 am »
Just curious why Florida, NewYork, and Rhode Island have been excluded : I thought that people there are NOT fighting for food ?
;)

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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2018, 09:37:50 am »
I'm in and deserve to win.   :-+

Where do I find more information about the quiz thing mentioned on the entry page and what is Keysights policy in regards to bribery and corruption for this years event, I can pay cash on the side if need be.   :-X :) 
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2018, 10:46:25 am »
... and what is Keysights policy in regards to bribery and corruption for this years event, I can pay cash on the side if need be.   :-X :)

I believe bribes need to be in the five-figure region to be entertained ... and you put them through the sales department.  As I understand it, such payments are so effective, that if you get the amount right, the sales department will even ship the products to you outside the timeframes mentioned in the promotion.

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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2018, 01:56:49 pm »
I look forward to winning so I can stop (*ahem, pause..*) spending money on one hobby for a while.

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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2018, 02:53:39 pm »
You silly, twisted boy....

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2018, 12:00:17 am »
Thanks Daniel,
I'm looking forward to the event.  :-+

Just one question (i hope i don't look greedy): Could you please tell us, what options are installed? thanks  ;)
 

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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2018, 12:10:15 am »
Just one question (i hope i don't look greedy): Could you please tell us, what options are installed? thanks  ;)

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34470A (34465)    Digital multimeter, 7 1/2 digit, Truevolt DMM    1
E36313A    DC power supply, triple-output, 6 V, 10 A and 2 x 25 V, 2 A, 160 W: LAN, USB    1
U1282A    True RMS 60000 Count Handheld DMM    1

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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2018, 12:20:09 am »
Ah thanks. Where did you get that info ?
Edit: Nevermind ... found it.
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« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2018, 09:22:13 pm »
Really great of Keysight to do this - entered last year with no luck, but, hey, better odds than the national lottery  :-+

Been refreshing the home workshop slowly as funds allow - was considering the E36311A anyways, but the E36313A was just out-of-budget...

Here's hoping !
 

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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2018, 09:30:03 am »
Out of curiosity, I notice that the "company" field is required this year (maybe it was last year as well). Does that mean amateurs/hobbyists shouldn't apply for this particular contest, or can we just make up a fake company name? I suppose I wonder if this one is more focused towards proper EE folks rather than us normal plebs.

Either way this contest looks amazing, that bench of gear literally made my jaw drop!

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« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2018, 11:51:14 am »
I took my lead from a recent purchase from TI.  They had a company name field requirement - but gave an alternative of "Independent Designer".

So, that's what I used for the Keysight promo.
 

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« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2018, 12:34:33 pm »
"Independent Designer" sounds good. Otherwise, the good old "Self" will probably work.
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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2018, 09:20:08 pm »
Forgive me for asking, but why are there so many excluded countries in this contest, while the country of origin doesn't seem to be an issue with the power supply contest?
 

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« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2018, 11:05:00 pm »
There could be several reasons from the total value of the prize pool to the fact that the power supply competition has no element of chance in it.  Entries are judged on their merit.

This makes a huge difference in a lot of situations.
 

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« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2018, 11:12:16 pm »
There could be several reasons from the total value of the prize pool to the fact that the power supply competition has no element of chance in it.  Entries are judged on their merit.

This makes a huge difference in a lot of situations.
I know. That's why a lot of radio stations ask you to answer a trivial question. Considering the disppoinment of many people about being excluded in the Scope Month, or Wave, it seems logical to look for a similar way of avoiding these kinds of limitations. Why exclude so many people when it's quite possible to include almost all?

Keysight has indicated very clearly that it tries hard to include as many people as possible, which I both believe and applaud.
 

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« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2018, 11:21:15 pm »
Radio station prizes are in a slightly different league to the sort of prize pool Keysight is offering - and the authorities are probably going to take a much more serious assessment of the so-called competition of "skill".

With the power supply competition, the skill is fairly evident - and open for public scrutiny, so any half-baked skills requirements are going to be called out by the participants - and the authorities will have a reasonably clear course of action.  So the trivial question approach is not going to fly.
 

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« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2018, 11:41:12 pm »
Radio station prizes are in a slightly different league to the sort of prize pool Keysight is offering - and the authorities are probably going to take a much more serious assessment of the so-called competition of "skill".

With the power supply competition, the skill is fairly evident - and open for public scrutiny, so any half-baked skills requirements are going to be called out by the participants - and the authorities will have a reasonably clear course of action.  So the trivial question approach is not going to fly.
It's not a matter of scale or dodging scrutiny. Something requires skill, or it doesn't. Legal precedences have long been set, so it isn't hard to devise something that falls well into the right category, without being overly challenging or hard.
 

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« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2018, 01:01:28 am »
Something requires skill, or it doesn't.

You are being far too simplistic.  That is a black and white statement in a very grey world.
 

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« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2018, 01:06:32 am »
You are being far too simplistic.  That is a black and white statement in a very grey world.
I addressed that in the rest of my comment. A rich history of legal cases shows a fairly well defined boundary between what qualifies as requiring skill and what doesn't. The vast expanse of grey has been neatly sorted into black and white by the courts. It really shouldn't be much of a challenge to create a contest that's properly on the right side of the boundary.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2018, 01:08:11 am »
Which is what Keysight will have done.

I'd put money on that.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2018, 01:10:31 am »
Which is what Keysight will have done.

I'd put money on that.
As it's not currently a contest, it doesn't seem they have.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2018, 03:50:55 am »
One (in my Sight important) question: Will the stuff be send from Keysight directly or via a local distributor ?
The huge value of the stuff would make a quite big customs-payment as far i know.  |O
 

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« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2018, 10:11:57 am »
This was a question asked many times in last year's Scope Month.

As far as I know, there wasn't any issue with that.  I think the only impact was the "income" assessment that USA winners have had to bear.


I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2018, 12:37:39 pm »
You can check out the thread from last year's Scope Month. Posts from people who received their prizes begin approximately on this page: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/scope-month-2017-megathread/275/. See if a winner in your location posted their experience. This year may be similar unless there were changes to laws, etc. in your location.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2018, 11:28:27 am »
The gear will be fulfilled directly through Keysight, but my understanding is that it will happen in a way that doesn't slap you with a bunch of customs fees/import tariffs. To my knowledge, this hasn't been an issue for people.

There may or may not be tax implications based on your country/state/county/shire of residence. If you win and are concerned about it, please talk to a local tax expert.
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2018, 01:33:51 pm »
Australia is not included :scared:. I guess import taxes are too high in Australia.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2018, 06:45:42 am »
Sorry. Maybe it just be only in my case, but...

I`ve just received three invitings from Keysight to their wavekeysight livefeed.   :wtf:
I registered to the sweepstake only one time, with a sole eMail adress.
(At the scopemonth´s I had different adresses.)

Something seems to went wrong. Failure from my side? Somehow I am multiple registered?    :-//
Or got everyone this invitation three times?       :phew:

See yourself:

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2018, 11:24:02 am »
They're three different livestreams on three different dates. ;)
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2018, 07:11:24 am »
 
:palm: :palm: |O |O

... as you say it...

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2018, 07:49:04 am »
Something seems to went wrong. Failure from my side? Somehow I am multiple registered?    :-//

What is wrong with getting invited one time each to three different events?
Did you only want to be invited to one event?
I don't get it!
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2018, 10:40:47 am »
... as you say it...

 :palm: :palm: |O |O

Yeah, it happens.  ;D
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2018, 10:41:38 pm »
A couple things:

1.
Wow so great. Thanks for posting it here!  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Too bad thought that it is (again) a suscribe and win thing.
I liked the concept you used for "power up my bench" much more. Since you have to put some effort in it limits the number of people to enter and would allow you to select people who actually need / use / apprechiate your devices instead of selling them off as quickly as possible...

We will be doing the "Test to Impress" contest again, so there WILL be a merit-based aspect to this event. We like the idea of a sweepstakes but also want to look out for people that have a lot of potential merit as well. If I recall correctly, the grand prize is a bundle of their choice, and a few runner up prizes are 1000 X-Series. So, both high end and lower end gear as prizes this time around.

Running events like this Australia a nightmare, but they are included in the South Asia Pacific event. My understanding is that contests are easier than sweepstakes.

Without going into specifics about certain countries, issues can include:
Total prize value too big/small
Individual prize value too big/small
Country/state requires a large cash payment or bond relative to prize size
Sweepstakes/contest must originate from local country
Sweepstakes (random draw) vs. Contests (merit-based) discrepancies

Thank you for your explanation.
It didn't enter my mind that this might be for taxation and regulatory reasons. Running this contest internationally must be a nightmare!
If you see a "edit" on my post, assume it is a silly grammar / spelling error...
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2018, 08:46:07 pm »
It's almost March 1'st.
- and who wouldn't want the chance to win some cool Keysight equipment?

Count me in. Thanks DanielBogdanoff, and also to the rest of the Keysight family.

I have read the terms and conditions, and I have a quick question regarding the Wave 2018 - Test to Impress Contest Official Rules:
Submission must be a valid link to a video hosted on YouTube, youku, or vimeo.

I am not on facebook, so I might have missed the entry posting there.
(Visiting the social media via the social media buttons worked, but I was quickly greeted with pop-up's telling me to join - no thanks! I'm on YouTube, and this great forum  :-+)

Back to my question, where to post the link to the video?
I could do it here, so here it is:


I will soon be making my first topic in the Open Sourced Hardware, and I hope the thread will see some replies  :popcorn:

Thanks!
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2018, 08:34:34 am »
How would I be able to tell if I registered
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2018, 08:53:38 am »
@TheDane,

There will be a submission form for the Test to Impress contest from the Wave web page starting 1-Mar.

Thanks!
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2018, 08:54:50 am »
@Anks, you should have received a confirmation e-mail (assuming you checked the box?). You can also just try again, if it went through the registration properly first time it won't let you do it a gain.

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2018, 09:14:43 am »
Hi Daniel,
Cute little video :)  Loved the hi tech special effects!  :-DD
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2018, 04:14:21 am »
I registered a week ago.

Is that entry for every draw?
Is the multiple choice "Daily Challenge" question the entry for each day?
or
Does one fill in the registration form again for daily entry?

I don't want to risk registering twice and invalidating my entry if the registration form is not for the daily entry.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2018, 04:47:41 am »
Congratulation to the first winner - Drew. I wonder how many eevblog member winners we will get this year. Lots, I hope.
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2018, 05:27:35 am »
I registered a week ago.

Is that entry for every draw?
Is the multiple choice "Daily Challenge" question the entry for each day?
or
Does one fill in the registration form again for daily entry?

I don't want to risk registering twice and invalidating my entry if the registration form is not for the daily entry.
This isn't quite clear to me either.
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2018, 05:32:54 am »
Everyone got one entry opportunity prior to commencement of Wave. That entry is valid for the duration of the event.

Each day during Wave, everyone gets one entry opportunity by filling in and submitting the form. You do that once a day. All of these entries are in the pot for all subsequent random draws during the event. Thus, you don't lose out if you don't enter every day, however your odds decrease relative to those who do enter everyday.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2018, 09:45:44 am »

First things first: Congratulations to Drew!  :clap: :clap: :clap:  Have much fun with your "new toys". :-+ :-DMM

And now to something completly different:
[...] you should have received a confirmation e-mail (assuming you checked the box?). You can also just try again, if it went through the registration properly first time it won't let you do it a gain.
Yes, I have checked the box. No, I havn´t received a confirmation mail. And yes, I´ve looked at the spam and deleted folder also. The site seems to work properly. At least the next try is only possible tomorrow.

What now??? I am in the sweepstake, even without a confirmation mail? Or am I been fooled by the website?
Someone else without confirmation?        :-//

 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2018, 11:16:41 am »
Visit wave.keysight.com again. When I entered, I checked the confirmation email box and received no confirmation. However, going to the entry page, even on a different device, indicated that I had entered. :-//
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« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2018, 03:33:05 pm »

We should ask Drew, if he has gotten a confirmation mail...
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2018, 05:38:31 pm »
Hi Daniel. I got a trivial question. One entry per day means registering the same email or different email for each day is allowed?
 

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« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2018, 06:47:43 pm »
Don't use a lot of different email addresses, it may look like you're trying to stuff extra entries. One entry per day from the same address is sufficient.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2018, 08:03:16 pm »
I love these giveaways its so cool because for some of us these scopes are so far out of our price range.  I think I have two entries, my other entry is my 40th post, so I am actually at 9 shy after this post... oh well  :-\    Keep it coming Dave!
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« Reply #70 on: March 02, 2018, 08:59:11 pm »
It is kinda suprising that they decided to have less but higher-budget rewards tbh, you'd think they'd want to give "the keysight experience" to as many people as possible. After all, more people = more chance to get to someone praising your gear in future.

But damn, those bundles will make someone a very happy camper
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #71 on: March 02, 2018, 10:56:55 pm »
I would really like to replace my OWON  |O
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #72 on: March 02, 2018, 11:12:49 pm »
with MSOX3054T, could you see 868MHz signal, to find it's more precise carrier freq.?

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #73 on: March 03, 2018, 12:18:12 am »

Ok, I'm NOT participating this time :(

I'm sure you guys know that there are laws/rules against unreasonable collection of personal information (EU and most other countries).
How about making most of those fields non-mandatory?

I'm not a lawyer, but I cannot grant/"assign" you all Intellectual Property rights including copyrights in an unconditional manner to my address or phone number - that's not something that I own or that is in my sole posession.

Want to do something really good? ... double up on Dave's giveway or his personal pick (he accidently mislabled the Keysight DSOX1102G scope as 4CH model... so why not make it a 4CH?) :-/O


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« Reply #74 on: March 03, 2018, 02:14:10 am »
While it IS nice that they gave away so much stuff last year I'm sure it was a ridiculous amount of work for Daniel, Josh etc. to have to deal with considering the laws in all the different countries and just the huge number of winners.

It is kinda suprising that they decided to have less but higher-budget rewards tbh, you'd think they'd want to give "the keysight experience" to as many people as possible. After all, more people = more chance to get to someone praising your gear in future.

But damn, those bundles will make someone a very happy camper
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #75 on: March 03, 2018, 02:40:46 am »
Scopilation! I'm in.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #76 on: March 03, 2018, 02:53:09 am »
I will add the my first entry in February I did get a confirmation email.  Yesterday's I did not get one.  Today when I went back it remembered me and I did not have to re-enter my information, just click a button and I did get a confirmation today.
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #77 on: March 03, 2018, 03:57:33 am »

I'm not a lawyer, but I cannot grant/"assign" you all Intellectual Property rights including copyrights in an unconditional manner to my address or phone number - that's not something that I own or that is in my sole posession.


So, the IP/patent/copyright phrase essentially keeps people from putting info they own into the submission field and then suing us for having that in our database. Apparently that's a thing people do... I know it's a scary phrase, but I talked to the lawyers about this and it's only about the submission stuff and not an overarching statement/contract.

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #78 on: March 03, 2018, 04:00:57 am »
I already said it on youtube but I figure why not say here too, as awesome as that bundle is, I'd actually much rather get fewer things because I'd prefer to see more winners, I mean why not give away three times as many things and simply let a winner choose any two items on that list instead of just having a scope/RF bundle?

Certainly isn't a big deal or anything but I think I liked scope month better or at least it gave the impression that you actually had a chance to win since there were so many of them being given away.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #79 on: March 03, 2018, 04:03:42 am »
I will add the my first entry in February I did get a confirmation email.  Yesterday's I did not get one.  Today when I went back it remembered me and I did not have to re-enter my information, just click a button and I did get a confirmation today.
I didn't get a confirmation yesterday either, glad it wasn't just me!  :)
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #80 on: March 03, 2018, 04:04:43 am »
I already said it on youtube but I figure why not say here too, as awesome as that bundle is, I'd actually much rather get fewer things because I'd prefer to see more winners, I mean why not give away three times as many things and simply let a winner choose any two items on that list instead of just having a scope/RF bundle?

Certainly isn't a big deal or anything but I think I liked scope month better or at least it gave the impression that you actually had a chance to win since there were so many of them being given away.
I tend to not agree. If I win, I want to win. Cutting up the cake in so many pieces that they become mundane isn't making something like this better, and the chances to win are minimal either way.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #81 on: March 03, 2018, 04:06:44 am »
Everyone got one entry opportunity prior to commencement of Wave. That entry is valid for the duration of the event.

Each day during Wave, everyone gets one entry opportunity by filling in and submitting the form. You do that once a day. All of these entries are in the pot for all subsequent random draws during the event. Thus, you don't lose out if you don't enter every day, however your odds decrease relative to those who do enter everyday.

You got your daily entry!
- gotten by pressing the button on https://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/

Then there's the 'Enter Keysight's Test to Impress Video Contest!' on https://www.wavekeysight.com/test-to-impress/
I applied there again today. I added links&info yesterday. I hope this won't be an issue, or ??? - technically I am entering twice   ???
(I might not be able to come up with new ideas to add to the project - however a great idea popped into my head, possibly making it capable of testing/determining Vlosses on bad defective high voltage capacitors, so it's kind of an update)
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #82 on: March 03, 2018, 04:12:51 am »
@TheDane, a 2x entry into the Test to Impress is no problem.

Regarding the prizes, we'll probably keep mixing it up :). We get a lot of feedback both ways (value/volume)
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #83 on: March 03, 2018, 04:17:47 am »
The daily extra bonus entry is a button, not filling in the form again. I hope I haven't invalidated my entry.

Mick or Nick has some snazzy shirts.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #84 on: March 03, 2018, 04:19:39 am »
Is answering the question a separate entry? Yesterday i answered the question, but missed the button in the right column completly :(
Today i did both, answered the question, and then i saw the button, clicked it, and immediatly got a email confirmation for my entry.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #85 on: March 03, 2018, 04:26:12 am »
I already said it on youtube but I figure why not say here too, as awesome as that bundle is, I'd actually much rather get fewer things because I'd prefer to see more winners, I mean why not give away three times as many things and simply let a winner choose any two items on that list instead of just having a scope/RF bundle?

Certainly isn't a big deal or anything but I think I liked scope month better or at least it gave the impression that you actually had a chance to win since there were so many of them being given away.
I tend to not agree. If I win, I want to win. Cutting up the cake in so many pieces that they become mundane isn't making something like this better, and the chances to win are minimal either way.
I don't see it as "Well, there was basically zero chance of winning anyway so it doesn't matter unless I get everything" I see it as, you have one chance to win a car vs 30 chances to get free insurance for a year, now yes the chances are still low and the other sounds way better to get, but you still have 30 one in a million chances compared to just one chance and that's it, which is still much better odds of actually getting something out of it and getting anything is better than nothing right..? Well, that plus the scope is the main thing I care about anyway so...
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #86 on: March 03, 2018, 04:28:49 am »
@TheDane, a 2x entry into the Test to Impress is no problem.

Regarding the prizes, we'll probably keep mixing it up :). We get a lot of feedback both ways (value/volume)

Thanks - so just to be 100% clear, one entry on the Test to Impress should be enough during the contest from now on, and I do not need to enter 'there' anymore.
- answering the landing question, and doing the daily button is  :-+

 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #87 on: March 03, 2018, 04:43:28 am »
I will add the my first entry in February I did get a confirmation email.  Yesterday's I did not get one.  Today when I went back it remembered me and I did not have to re-enter my information, just click a button and I did get a confirmation today.
I didn't get a confirmation yesterday either, glad it wasn't just me!  :)

I did not get a confirmation neither yesterday nor today. Not sure what is going on.
 

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« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2018, 05:36:59 am »
@TheDane, a 2x entry into the Test to Impress is no problem.

Regarding the prizes, we'll probably keep mixing it up :). We get a lot of feedback both ways (value/volume)

Thanks - so just to be 100% clear, one entry on the Test to Impress should be enough during the contest from now on, and I do not need to enter 'there' anymore.
- answering the landing question, and doing the daily button is  :-+

Yes, for Test to Impress a single entry is sufficient. For the sweepstakes, you can one per day using the button.
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2018, 05:38:55 am »
You got your daily entry!
- gotten by pressing the button on https://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/

Depends if you're entering on the same device and you still have the cookie. If not, then you're presented with the entry form again.
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« Reply #90 on: March 03, 2018, 05:42:39 am »
Well, count me in. Gonna try my luck!
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« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2018, 05:46:11 am »
You have to sign up at wave.keysight.com. Posting in this thread won't win you anything.
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« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2018, 07:04:50 am »
Hello guys. Should I make any another things to get a chance to win anything?
 

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« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2018, 08:18:32 am »
This was already answered during the live event (live text box chat) but I might as well post here too. I believe I saw the FMV (Fair Market Value) total ~30,000 USD for each bundle. Correct? This info is important for calculations in regards to your local tax laws.  :blah:  Everyone can still enter and work around this, just don't want anyone to get upset with a surprise audit or whatever.  :-BROKE Also if you are under 18 please don't use your parents information without their permission. I doubt they'll be happy with a surprise audit as well.

On another note, can confirm that as long as you don't wipe out your cookies and check confirmation email box, you will be entered using the information you first provided. Source: my inbox and current browser use.

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« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2018, 02:17:29 pm »
Hi Daniel!

Thanks for the latest ScopeMonth comp, sorry Wave 2018. :palm:

Can I ask why you don't use UT/GMT times for your competitions, etc (sorry to burst your bubble but the US is NOT the whole world :scared:) as it would be simpler for non-US participants to know what time it is in their part of the world instead of trying to work out where your 'Mountain Standard' time zone is in relation to their own?

Cheers.

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I Just viewed your live stream for Mon 5th and I note that you are now also giving UTC times as well - much appreciated.  :)
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« Reply #95 on: March 03, 2018, 02:55:31 pm »
I don't have any trouble working it out.  It's when other time zones are referenced that it becomes a little more of a concern.

For example, the quiz contest which caters for Australia (and others) gives "Australia, Sydney 14:00 pm".  We are on Daylight Savings time - so is that also Daylight Savings time?  It makes no reference to that.

From the time given for Singapore, it would seem so - but an explicit answer is better.

If so, if you could please annotate the time with, say, "AEDST"  for Australian Eastern Daylight Saving Time.
 

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« Reply #96 on: March 03, 2018, 03:31:29 pm »
Thanks for this.  Its awesome!!!  That RF bundle would be just insanely good, but the bench kit woudl be wonderful as well.    I've just started working with RF projects doing Internet of thigns and cellular stuff.
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« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2018, 11:06:37 pm »
Did the question of the day repeat from yesterday?
 

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« Reply #98 on: March 03, 2018, 11:41:54 pm »
Can I ask why you don't use UT/GMT times for your competitions, etc (sorry to burst your bubble but the US is NOT the whole world :scared:) as it would be simpler for non-US participants to know what time it is in their part of the world instead of trying to work out where your 'Mountain Standard' time zone is in relation to their own?

I don't have any trouble working it out.  It's when other time zones are referenced that it becomes a little more of a concern.

For example, the quiz contest which caters for Australia (and others) gives "Australia, Sydney 14:00 pm".  We are on Daylight Savings time - so is that also Daylight Savings time?  It makes no reference to that.

From the time given for Singapore, it would seem so - but an explicit answer is better.

If so, if you could please annotate the time with, say, "AEDST"  for Australian Eastern Daylight Saving Time.

This is all the more puzzling because the US contest pages specify the times in UTC.

The time zone issue doesn't seem to be an issue of corporate  insensitivity but rather some local employee.

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« Reply #99 on: March 03, 2018, 11:46:15 pm »
Did the question of the day repeat from yesterday?

I noticed too, reloaded, then remembered it is saturday.
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« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2018, 12:23:15 am »
Thanks for this.  Its awesome!!!  That RF bundle would be just insanely good, but the bench kit woudl be wonderful as well.    I've just started working with RF projects doing Internet of thigns and cellular stuff.

Agreed. Like other posts at first, the decision to condense the time for the event (2 weeks) and the smaller prize pool was kind of a shock but there is some logic to it besides the nightmare of managing this event (finances, legal, logistics). Think of this.

The entire goal of this event is to invest in the future of the industry. I can also see why RF awareness is "call to action" in this year contest. I'm not sure if this is the case in Australia, Denmark, Great Britain or anywhere else in the world but here in the US there seems to be a shortage of RF and Microwave Engineers due to lack of awareness.

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics and their Occupation Outlook Handbook
https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes172071.htm
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htm
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/installation-maintenance-and-repair/telecommunications-equipment-installers-and-repairers-except-line-installers.htm#tab-8
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/media-and-communication/broadcast-and-sound-engineering-technicians.htm
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/a-z-index.htm#R

I tried searching for anything Radio and Engineer and I just couldn't find anything but you find a lot of openings in any telecomms company (Bell for example). The world itself is in dire need of RF Engineers because it goes well beyond just broadcasting and telecommunications in the sources above. Nowadays we have WiFi and Bluetooth powering the internet and devices. Software Defined Radio is great but I believe it puts too much emphasis on coding and general electronics. Not that those are a bad thing, you will need those too, but there seems to be no spotlight on the RF design portion of how SDR works besides just theory.

I reckon that someone in the RF dept. made a strong case with this. In which case, good on them and thank you. Hopefully RF will be included next year as well.  :-+
 

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« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2018, 02:18:49 am »
I must say the packages on offer will provide a significant boost to the winners.

I'm looking at the RF package with hungry eyes - but I am torn between that and the bench bundle which will see far more service in my current endeavours.  However, I daresay I am quite unlikely to have to make that choice.
 

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« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2018, 02:49:19 am »
To honored mr Bogdanoff!

There is a probable workaround for Keysight regarding some Scandinavian and other Eu countries exclusion, if Keysight register a gambling company in Malta and run the competition as a subsidiary from there the excluded countries can enter. This is how all the gambling companies round the State monopoly gambling rules.

Of course im not trying to suggest that Keysight do anything unlawful in Malta, oh no, no way, just saying legally bending mid eval constructed rules of contest excluded countries is what all multinational companies do all the time.... sort of... ;) :)
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« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2018, 03:43:48 am »
I originally signed up using my phone but couldn't look at app notes collection so signed up using PC, couldn't find a way to just look at notes, and got another confirmation email for entering. In the unlikely chance I win, is this going to be looked at as gaming the system? I used same e-mail, phone number, address, name. Just checked my phone and it has the get daily entry but I already did it on my PC.
 

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« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2018, 05:04:09 am »
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« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2018, 06:23:04 am »
Hi Daniel!

Thanks for the latest ScopeMonth comp, sorry Wave 2018. :palm:

Can I ask why you don't use UT/GMT times for your competitions, etc (sorry to burst your bubble but the US is NOT the whole world :scared:) as it would be simpler for non-US participants to know what time it is in their part of the world instead of trying to work out where your 'Mountain Standard' time zone is in relation to their own?

Cheers.

When I entered the times into my calendar for reminders I put them in as Mountain Time.
Ta-da! My calendar programmes list the entries in my calendar and alarms in local time, even sorting out the change to daylight savings time in Keysight's local time on March 11th (or 11th of March if you prefer).

The entry page gives reset time in UTC(zulu)

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« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2018, 06:38:42 am »
I have a similar problem to what others are saying.  I tried to enter for today a few hours ago and I have no
confirmation email despite having requested one.  And let's say I'm pretty confident I didn't typo-error my email address and am not having the email get lost due to ISP / PC issues. 

As I recall today the web page itself said I am entered or if there was something amiss I didn't notice it.
So now I am wondering whether to trust my impression from the web site that it may be OK for today
or trust the email confirmation system (rather than the web server) is actually tied in to the confirmed entries "system" and so the lack of email is probably "authoritative" (assuming no user error entering the address or personal email error) and therefore I should try to reenter on the web page due to "negative confirmation by absence" that my entry was in fact NOT received today.

I did get confirmation email on previous daily allowed entries but as those were from work and this is from home
where my browser traffic is much more filtered by firewall / script / ad / etc. security software so I wonder if maybe it could be something that happened either as a bug in keysight's systems or some weird problem where I got entered as far as the web site thought but some invisible transaction with ??? back end keysight ad / database / whatever other server didn't work and that's why the entry may not have worked.

Now I don't know what to do.  I guess I will try restarting my browser, clearing cookies, and enter the same personal information again and see if it thinks I am entered or not by web / email and hope that doesn't mess up my entry if I did actually get one in despite negative confirmation.

I applaud the email confirmation feature (way better than nothing) though I suggest for the future  maybe reworking the web site to only display your web confirmation AFTER everything is 100% confirmed "front end and back end" that the entry is received / processed through all relevant keysight related systems / servers and then display back your entry time stamp and your provided details / email address and whether you should expect (by request) an email confirmation or something like that.

FWIW it seems like a common failure mode of e-commerce type sites.  In the past sometimes I will make some online purchase attempt and get some error message or failure to display any confirmation on the result page or by my immediate account order history as if it did not succeed, so I would re-order a few minutes later and yet the original order ended up "invisibly still in the system" and I would be double-billed / double ordered which fact would only show up to my account some hours or days later.  Other times you submit something like an purchase order or form entry and nothing ever happens despite apparent "success" indication from the web site.

I guess in this case I would HOPE that it is 100% safe with no appearance of duplicity to simply repeat an entry which wasn't successfully corfirmed by email with corresponding personal information and assume the system will only let it be made 1x/day.  Though it'd be disconcerting if it kept failing to confirm, then I'd wonder about my browser / fierwall / whatever even more... or the keysight servers being broken as others' noted email failures here
seem to suggest is happening recently.

I will add the my first entry in February I did get a confirmation email.  Yesterday's I did not get one.  Today when I went back it remembered me and I did not have to re-enter my information, just click a button and I did get a confirmation today.
I didn't get a confirmation yesterday either, glad it wasn't just me!  :)

I did not get a confirmation neither yesterday nor today. Not sure what is going on.
 

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« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2018, 06:46:51 am »
I haven't got any confirmation emails. I don't think that's a problem. I didn't get any from the "Power up your Bench" contest either and then won a PSU.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #108 on: March 04, 2018, 06:50:51 am »
That was actually highly confusing and disconcerting when it happened to me.
The "entry received" or "you got your entry" or whatever it exactly said was so terse and ambiguous I was left wondering if it indicated success of failure.
I can understand it might be made to look at browser cookies and just say "oh I have this person's form entry from the previous day so no need to make them enter it again", ok, fine, but in my opionion in such a case it should explicitly say:
"We recognize your details from the cookie we sent when you entered on 1-march, so now on 2-march we have entered you again since you selected to enter again today so you now have an entry for today."

Which, essentially, the confirmation email ultimately did confirm (at least the one I received, today's is missing).

The reason I had anxiety about a "you got your entry" type of ambiguous response is that I've seen too many sites where they have some bug where they get *the same exact entry* duplicated i.e. maybe it is confirming AGAIN TODAY  that I successfully entered YESTERDAY AGAIN based on yesterday's cookie or whatever as opposed to saying "yeah we got you yesterday, and now here you are today 3-mar, and we got you today also." which would be the expected but not unambiguous result.

Hence on online forums or e-commerce sites sometimes if you reload the page or whatever because the first server response didn't come back properly to your browser for whatever reason you get the exact same blog post made twice or get a duplicated purchase made for the same order or something as opposed to it being seen as a "new" (or at least not a duplicate of one already received) interaction as it should.


You got your daily entry!
- gotten by pressing the button on https://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/

Depends if you're entering on the same device and you still have the cookie. If not, then you're presented with the entry form again.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #109 on: March 04, 2018, 05:25:47 pm »
Thanks everyone for the feedback!

A couple comments:

1. We did weekend updates the first year and that was pretty rough for us as a small team, so we generally try to run the event just on weekdays. This includes the daily challenge question. It obviously does not include responding to forum questions :)

2. E-mail confirmations/entry confirmation: There were a couple ways to accidentally get multiple confirmation e-mails, but this doesn't show up as multiple entries in the system. The system we're using is pretty smart, so really the only way you could end up with multiple entries is if you are intentionally gaming the system with multiple sets of information. If you're unsure whether your entry went through, you can clear cookies and try again with the same e-mail. Also, if you see the "get daily entry" button, it means you can get an entry for that day. Going to the page from a device without the cookie and filling out the form again will yield the same result.

Also, the entry confirmation is a new thing for us this year, so there is certainly some streamlining we can do for future events.

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« Reply #110 on: March 05, 2018, 02:25:03 am »
The daily entry button is a great and welcome added feature. Thanks for implementing this!
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« Reply #111 on: March 05, 2018, 03:21:51 am »
Belgium is included in the Wave 2018 - Test to Impress Contest.
You took feedback, and made multiple ways to get a price, basically allowing more countries to enter. Huge respect.

Where do you see Belgium is included? It seems we are not unfortunately. A shame beasue those are indeed really nice bundles!

I posted first in Dave post about Keysight wave, but removed my post there after I seen it was to enter to win a dumpster scope (which I do not really need), but would very much like to enter for a bundle  8)

Edit: ok, I see, we can enter the "test to impress"-contest, but not the lotery...
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« Reply #112 on: March 05, 2018, 04:13:36 am »
EDIT: I tried again today (new day) with the same PC / browser setup as the previous day and the final web page did confirm success in the expected way and I also today got the confirmation mail.  So I can only conclude that both the entry web site and the email confirmation weren't working (for me anyway) on the server side the day before.  The previous day's lack of entry / web / email confirmation didn't in retrospect appear to have anything to do with my browser / network / PC etc.
So I'm glad it is working now.

Thanks Daniel.

After not getting a confirmation email yesterday I did go back, clear cookies (actually used a completely clean firefox profile thus clearing cookies but also disabling my usual security / script / ad / etc. blockers) and try my same personal information from earier when I didn't get confirmation  again to see if I'd get a web based and/or email confirmation.
Looking more closely at the "try again after no confirmation" result yesterday was this:
* I still didn't get a confirmation email.
* I clicked submit on my form data with all the correct / same details which previously in the day didn't get me a confirmation email and that took me to a new page:
https://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/?kswHasEntered=1

* On that second page I saw MOST but not ALL of the familiar page layout, the wave 2018 logo, black background, quiz on the left, etc.

* But whad I did NOT see on that above landing page was any "Entry successful" or "You already got your entry for today" or similar message.  So there was neither an error message of any kind nor a success message of any kind for the entry, but everything else on the page looked similar to what I've seen previous days when I did get confirmation emails and I did get visual indication of "You got your entry" or whatever success message on the landing page. 

* On previous work-days I was at work entering on chrome browser with default settings.  And on the weekend yesterday as I said I was using Firefox 52.6 ESR on LINUX with a clean profile so no extensions or whatever when I tried to see if it'd work.

So now between the emails never working yesterday even after retrying with the same information and then at the second attempt when I checked more closely noticing that the after-submission "landing" page also didn't actually confirm (or deny) anything though I have seen it do so on previous days with a physically different workplace browser / PC I am wondering if there is some other kind of issue that is making the site not work for me here at home.  Browser?  Firewall?  Just a different page / style design for chrome vs. Firefox where you just never display the same success entries for FF?

But FWIW yesterday on my original attempt to enter which wasn't confirmed I did solve the quiz question and that worked as expected...

I can understand conceivable things that could cause such differences either on my PC/network side or on the web server / page side but that it isn't clear if there is a problem or if so what the nature of it is based on the site/browser interaction is a bit frustrating.

But again thank you overall for the contest, and I do think the confirmation email and remembered you from the day before changes are overall positive improvements though maybe some polish of the overall system could still facilitate things somehow in cases where things aren't apparently working for whatever reason.

Thanks everyone for the feedback!

A couple comments:

1. We did weekend updates the first year and that was pretty rough for us as a small team, so we generally try to run the event just on weekdays. This includes the daily challenge question. It obviously does not include responding to forum questions :)

2. E-mail confirmations/entry confirmation: There were a couple ways to accidentally get multiple confirmation e-mails, but this doesn't show up as multiple entries in the system. The system we're using is pretty smart, so really the only way you could end up with multiple entries is if you are intentionally gaming the system with multiple sets of information. If you're unsure whether your entry went through, you can clear cookies and try again with the same e-mail. Also, if you see the "get daily entry" button, it means you can get an entry for that day. Going to the page from a device without the cookie and filling out the form again will yield the same result.

Also, the entry confirmation is a new thing for us this year, so there is certainly some streamlining we can do for future events.
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« Reply #113 on: March 05, 2018, 09:06:31 am »
I've noticed you can enter with countries not listed in the eligible countries list. Does that mean those entries are trashed? Do you get informed when you try to enter with non eligible details?
 

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« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2018, 09:18:10 am »
Everything appears to be much more streamlined with many improvements compared to last year. Not to mention the huge prize packs, nice!  :clap:

I'll try not to get my hopes up because I know the chances are low, but I still catch myself dreaming about winning someday.
 

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« Reply #115 on: March 05, 2018, 09:32:39 am »
One way or another.
 

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« Reply #116 on: March 05, 2018, 09:44:15 am »
Read this line from Dave's video about the announcement: "The total approximate retail value of the prizes is a maximum of $536,682"  :o
 

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« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2018, 09:47:28 am »
Read this line from Dave's video about the announcement: "The total approximate retail value of the prizes is a maximum of $536,682"  :o
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« Reply #118 on: March 05, 2018, 02:19:07 pm »
When I entered the times into my calendar for reminders I put them in as Mountain Time.
Ta-da! My calendar programmes list the entries in my calendar and alarms in local time, even sorting out the change to daylight savings time in Keysight's local time on March 11th (or 11th of March if you prefer).

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« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2018, 05:58:39 pm »
I've noticed you can enter with countries not listed in the eligible countries list. Does that mean those entries are trashed? Do you get informed when you try to enter with non eligible details?

This was discussed a lot internally, and it was decided by the powers that be that the better experience for people is to not notify them if they sign up using a country that's not eligible. It does still give them access to the Wave library & challenge questions that they wouldn't get otherwise. Our goal is to make this an event that's interesting, educational, and fun regardless of the giveaways. We're also going to keep doing giveaways, of course :).

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« Reply #120 on: March 05, 2018, 06:26:24 pm »
I will cross my fingers :) ;)
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« Reply #121 on: March 05, 2018, 06:42:05 pm »
This was discussed a lot internally, and it was decided by the powers that be that the better experience for people is to not notify them if they sign up using a country that's not eligible. It does still give them access to the Wave library & challenge questions that they wouldn't get otherwise. Our goal is to make this an event that's interesting, educational, and fun regardless of the giveaways. We're also going to keep doing giveaways, of course :).
I understand there is an interest on the Keysight side to harvest data of interested people, but not informing them that their actions are futile doesn't seem to be the way to go. I understand that's not your call, but it's a bit of a smoke and mirrors trick.
 

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« Reply #122 on: March 05, 2018, 07:20:04 pm »
This was discussed a lot internally, and it was decided by the powers that be that the better experience for people is to not notify them if they sign up using a country that's not eligible. It does still give them access to the Wave library & challenge questions that they wouldn't get otherwise. Our goal is to make this an event that's interesting, educational, and fun regardless of the giveaways. We're also going to keep doing giveaways, of course :).
I understand there is an interest on the Keysight side to harvest data of interested people, but not informing them that their actions are futile doesn't seem to be the way to go. I understand that's not your call, but it's a bit of a smoke and mirrors trick.

I'm inclined to agree.  To hide the futility of their competition entry is dishonest.  Sorry.

I know it's going to take a little more coding for the entry page, but I would consider it much more ethical to advise them they aren't eligible - but by entering their information, they have access to the resources on offer.
 

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« Reply #123 on: March 05, 2018, 09:25:03 pm »
Just saw on farnell ITALY a banner for Wave 2018 that lands here https://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/?cmpid=PremiereFarnell

So we can partecipate?
 

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« Reply #124 on: March 05, 2018, 09:27:44 pm »
Just saw on farnell ITALY a banner for Wave 2018 that lands here https://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/?cmpid=PremiereFarnell

So we can partecipate?
You can, but you don't have any chance to win anything. Italy isn't eligible for any of the contest variants.
 

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« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2018, 12:28:13 am »
Yep, that's what ToC says. but then again farnell is inviting me to partecipate..
 

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« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2018, 01:30:56 am »
Yep, that's what ToC says. but then again farnell is inviting me to partecipate..
See the previous discussion. Apparently it's "to give them access to the Wave library & challenge questions that they wouldn't get otherwise".
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #127 on: March 06, 2018, 09:54:19 am »

We could see in the live-streams the drawings of the first and the third winner.

Who is the second winner???   :-//

Have I missed something? Is it possible to see the daily drawing? Or will the daily winner somewhere published?

Where???     :-//

BTW: The confirmation mails working fine now. At least mine.  :-+

 

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« Reply #128 on: March 06, 2018, 10:59:38 am »
Hi ProBang2,

There should have been the Friday winner embedded on the Wave webpage and on the Keysight Labs YouTube channel. The video will be posted at 10 AM MST to the YT channel, and embedded into the webpages after that.

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« Reply #129 on: March 06, 2018, 07:06:09 pm »
Trap for young players to get your daily entry:

Go to:
https://www.wavekeysight.com/landing/

Not:
https://www.wavekeysight.com/sap-landing/

For some reason I was alway getting redirected to the second URL, and never saw the daily entry button again after the first visit.
This was true on several PC's and nothing seemed to fix it.

After finding that link in this thread I tried it and got the button again. Clicked that and got the email confirmation - which I had not had since March 1.

Over and under.
 
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« Reply #130 on: March 06, 2018, 07:37:35 pm »
The different countdown timers displayed on each of those sites are indicative of different locations and accordingly time zones, the relevant page states that tomorrows start time for AUS is 14:00 and in NZ it will be 16:00.
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« Reply #131 on: March 06, 2018, 07:54:48 pm »
Yes, no doubt the pages are for different regions. The confusing thing that suckered me is at one point or another I have seen both pages and have clicked the daily entry button.
So I thought I was supposed to click the button enter each day, but I haven't seen the page with the button to click for some time so figured I was doing it wrong.

In summary, there is no daily button to click on the sap-landing page. There _is_ a daily button on the landing page. I assume this is how it is supposed to be because NZ is not in the list of countries for the 'main' competition posted earlier (yeah I know, read the fine print etc):
"This promotion is limited to specific countries and is only open to entrants aged 18 years or older at the time of submission who are legal residents of, and physically located within, Austria, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Chile, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Japan, Korea Republic of, Poland, South Africa, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States (excluding Florida, New York, and Rhode Island), and Venezuela."
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #132 on: March 08, 2018, 10:00:18 am »
BogdanON... BogdanOFF...    :-DD
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #133 on: March 08, 2018, 11:57:59 am »
As someone who has had their fair share of name twisting in primary school, I'm sure Daniel has experienced this as well.  Not cool.

The phrase member bsubbrink referred to was mentioned at 4:30 in the current Keysight video, it was nothing more than a bit of lighthearted fun by those shown in the video,

Oh ... my apologies.
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« Reply #134 on: March 08, 2018, 12:13:03 pm »
BogdanON... BogdanOFF...    :-DD

As someone who has had their fair share of name twisting in primary school, I'm sure Daniel has experienced this as well.  Not cool.

The phrase member bsubbrink referred to was mentioned at 4:30 in the current Keysight video, it was nothing more than a bit of lighthearted fun by those shown in the video, my concern would be that they are actually looking for a replacement for Daniel which would be a serious mistake.



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« Reply #135 on: March 08, 2018, 12:14:13 pm »
Uncommon names are cool to learn more about. The site below indicates that in 2010 only 376 people in the US had the surname Bogdanoff, with a high concentration in California.

http://names.mooseroots.com/l/96665/Bogdanoff

I've also seen it spelled Bogdanov.
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« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2018, 09:15:54 pm »
I've just found out that you need to have cookies enabled and must not auto-delete them when closing the web browser. Unfortunately that isn't explained anywhere. If you're a person concerned about privacy and have set your browser to auto-delete cookies when closing the browser you'll see the registration form again next day. So I re-registered again and again, and I assume Daniel considers this an attempted fraud and removes my entries. Only if the cookie is saved you'll see the webpage for re-entering for the next draw. Keysight, if you require cookies to be saved please tell so. Otherwise privacy concerned users won't have any chance to win because they re-register every day and you'll simply delete their entries because you think they are trying to cheat. But the problem is that the users won't see the page for re-entering the draw because of the auto-deleted cookie.
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« Reply #137 on: March 08, 2018, 10:56:21 pm »
I've just found out that you need to have cookies enabled and must not auto-delete them when closing the web browser. Unfortunately that isn't explained anywhere. If you're a person concerned about privacy and have set your browser to auto-delete cookies when closing the browser you'll see the registration form again next day. So I re-registered again and again, and I assume Daniel considers this an attempted fraud and removes my entries. Only if the cookie is saved you'll see the webpage for re-entering for the next draw. Keysight, if you require cookies to be saved please tell so. Otherwise privacy concerned users won't have any change to win because they re-register every day and you'll simply delete their entries because you think they are trying to cheat. But the problem is that the users won't see the page for re-entering the draw because of the auto-deleted cookie.

I fell foul of that too.
 

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« Reply #138 on: March 08, 2018, 11:07:20 pm »
I've been doing that as I've gone to the site on different devices. I assumed that a completely fresh (but identical) entry every day was the same as clicking the "get your daily entry" button. Is the not the case?
 

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« Reply #139 on: March 08, 2018, 11:24:34 pm »
Can someone please fix the wonky LED tape in that sign...
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« Reply #140 on: March 09, 2018, 02:08:27 am »
Entry submission flow is confusing, i would rather fill out a registration from scratch each day instead of relying on cookies and stuff. it is unclear what the daily challenge does, is it just for fun, is it required to be answered, or what, it is not explained. I once was on that page and both the daily challenge Submit and Get Your Daily Entry Submit buttons were there, i answered the challenge,  clicked Submit it and the page refreshed and the Get your daily entry button was gone and i could not get it back and i never received a email confirmation for that day. Since then i do not touch the challenge button, just click the Get your daily entry one. With that i do receive email confirmations.
All in all, i think the flow could have been presented better, it is confusing to have multiple Submit button on a same page.
 

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« Reply #141 on: March 09, 2018, 02:49:04 am »
I do not have a "Get your daily entry" button at all after I submitted my first entry.
And I never got a confirmation email.

Suddenly today I got an email with confirmation and I did not even do another entry, LOL!

So, there is really no way for us to know, if we made it in to the contest or not.
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« Reply #142 on: March 09, 2018, 03:01:26 am »
I have decided I hate competitions I never win. 

The only thing that makes failing the daily draw liveable is the fact that I know that the LED alignment in the sign is winding MikesElectricStuff up the wrong way.

Oh.. and I've decided on selling some merch so I can save up to buy my own 4CH scope. (Although now I've decided I really need a 24+CH logic analyser too)

See attached
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #143 on: March 09, 2018, 04:18:06 am »
BogdanON... BogdanOFF...    :-DD

The phrase member bsubbrink referred to was mentioned at 4:30 in the current Keysight video, it was nothing more than a bit of lighthearted fun by those shown in the video, my concern would be that they are actually looking for a replacement for Daniel which would be a serious mistake.

What really struck my "funny bone" was the subtle "Karate Kid" reference.
 

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« Reply #144 on: March 09, 2018, 05:46:00 am »
NivagSwerdna, nice T-shirt. :)
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #145 on: March 09, 2018, 06:52:31 am »
I've just found out that you need to have cookies enabled and must not auto-delete them when closing the web browser. Unfortunately that isn't explained anywhere. If you're a person concerned about privacy and have set your browser to auto-delete cookies when closing the browser you'll see the registration form again next day. So I re-registered again and again, and I assume Daniel considers this an attempted fraud and removes my entries. Only if the cookie is saved you'll see the webpage for re-entering for the next draw. Keysight, if you require cookies to be saved please tell so. Otherwise privacy concerned users won't have any chance to win because they re-register every day and you'll simply delete their entries because you think they are trying to cheat. But the problem is that the users won't see the page for re-entering the draw because of the auto-deleted cookie.
If this is true, then there is no chance for me to get anything.
Seriosly: Make the rules clear or the event might have the opposite(getting people pissed) effect than wanted.
 

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« Reply #146 on: March 09, 2018, 07:05:52 am »
I disagree. If anyone goes through the registration and sees the same information entered multiple times, once a day, I don't think anyone would see it as a cheater.

Otherwise, if the same physical address has 20 e-mail addresses being re-registered everyday, I suspect that would be a tremendous red flag.
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« Reply #147 on: March 09, 2018, 07:11:02 am »
These competitions are important and beneficial for character building so people learn to cope with disappointment and injustice. The South Asia Pacific Quiz probably would have gone to the person who could type the fastest which wasn't me.   ::) :(
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #148 on: March 09, 2018, 08:25:09 am »
So I re-registered again and again, and I assume Daniel considers this an attempted fraud and removes my entries.

If you're using the same email address, all should be well. It's clearly the same person entering. No worries.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #149 on: March 09, 2018, 09:18:32 am »
Can someone please fix the wonky LED tape in that sign...

I worked on it this afternoon, it'll be better on Monday I promise!

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #150 on: March 09, 2018, 11:49:59 am »
So I re-registered again and again, and I assume Daniel considers this an attempted fraud and removes my entries.

If you're using the same email address, all should be well. It's clearly the same person entering. No worries.

Our system recognizes the e-mail address, so you'll be fine and won't get flagged. What's not ok is using multiple e-mail addresses day after day.
 
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« Reply #151 on: March 09, 2018, 03:37:39 pm »
So I re-registered again and again, and I assume Daniel considers this an attempted fraud and removes my entries.

If you're using the same email address, all should be well. It's clearly the same person entering. No worries.

Our system recognizes the e-mail address, so you'll be fine and won't get flagged. What's not ok is using multiple e-mail addresses day after day.
Thanks for explaining that. I still wonder however why i only got a confirmation email once. But i take your word that all is fine  :-+
 

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« Reply #152 on: March 10, 2018, 10:06:22 am »
Thanks for explaining that. I still wonder however why i only got a confirmation email once. But i take your word that all is fine  :-+

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #153 on: March 12, 2018, 07:33:57 pm »
Can someone please fix the wonky LED tape in that sign...

I worked on it this afternoon, it'll be better on Monday I promise!

;D
Also thanks for working on the video stream quality, it was a bit choppy the first couple of streams - at least on my end.
I have a question, which I might not be able to ask on the live Q&A YouTube stream later today (away from computer):

I have been looking into how the arbitrary waveform generator is programmed, and it seems it acceepts two formats: Arb and CSV, which is either static or PC program generated.

Quote from 'How to Easily Create an Arbitrary Waveform Without Programming'
"G. If you prefer to use a software environment to generate your arb, or if you need more advanced math functions than what Excel can provide, you can still avoid having to remotely connect and program your arbitrary waveform generator. Most programming environments, like Matlab and LabView, have APIs for writing and reading CSV files. Simply have your program write the arb to a CSV file and “sneaker network” it to the AWG"

In my ESR tester project I am using a microcontroller which has serial I/O possibilities - so I could cook up a way to sneak data directly to the generator.
My question is: Can I also send commands 'directly', without having an API doing it or spending lots of memory?
(Controller commands a sinewave at a freq, like doing it in Excel spreadsheet, and then the generator does so 'instantly'. Then the controller commands a diff. freq - the generator complies 'instantly') aka, more low level programming registers like I am used to with the AD983x programmable waveform generators - and I plan on using in the project.

I hope it is OK to ask a question here, and that it is possible  :)
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #154 on: March 12, 2018, 09:53:39 pm »
No eevblog winners yet? Surely that can't be right. What's going on?

There are some great prize bundles but it's not as entertaining as last year's scope month. Where's Sebastian? Where's the gamed popularity contest and in depth vote trend analysis? Where's the 1GHz induction water heater?

On the plus side, I'm guessing it's less stressful for Daniel and the Keysight team.
 

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« Reply #155 on: March 13, 2018, 04:48:56 am »
If I've won, no one has mentioned it to me, yet. But I keep trying. ;D
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #156 on: March 13, 2018, 05:10:31 am »
I've been trying for a few days to enter, but the site automatically says I'm entered to win!. It also says I can get a daily entry and when I click that, it automatically says I got my daily entry. Is entering automatic just by visiting the site? I have not seen the form again.


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« Reply #157 on: March 13, 2018, 05:18:40 am »
If you either refresh the screen or type the URL in a blank tab, a button shows up as below:
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #158 on: March 13, 2018, 05:24:44 am »
Yes, when I hit the button, I do not get a form. I get the message that I got my daily entry.
 

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« Reply #159 on: March 13, 2018, 05:32:58 am »
Clicking the button submits your entry for the day. You will not see the form again because the cookie in your browser identifies you to the site. So, they already know it's you.

You do have to click that button, though. Simply loading the page is not sufficient to get your daily entry.
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« Reply #160 on: March 13, 2018, 06:31:55 am »
Clicking the button submits your entry for the day. You will not see the form again because the cookie in your browser identifies you to the site. So, they already know it's you.

You do have to click that button, though. Simply loading the page is not sufficient to get your daily entry.
Exactly. I should have clarified this in my post as well.
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« Reply #161 on: March 13, 2018, 07:33:55 am »
No worries. I got your back.
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« Reply #162 on: March 14, 2018, 03:56:45 am »
Seriously?!!?

Like an idiot, I have been entering everyday, and watching the draw, and I havn't even been included once, despite seeing an 'you are entered message'.  You seriously have to click another button, even though, there has already been a full postback of the page, and it could have don't it in a single submission.
 

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« Reply #163 on: March 14, 2018, 06:03:49 am »
If you submitted the form, you are entered — once — for the duration of Wave 2018. However, if you don't subsequently click the button each day (or re-submit the form if you see that instead of the button), then you're only entered once. By clicking the button (or submitting the form) each day, you get an additional entry.
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« Reply #164 on: March 14, 2018, 09:53:52 am »
are you sure about
By clicking the button (or submitting the form) each day, you get an additional entry.

I clear the browser, so I always get a new form to fill out daily.  I have never received an email conformation until now (which is a typical keysight oversight with these things, so didn't question it), and have never noticed the button that replaces asking for your details again, that appears after a form submit.  After reading your post and pressing it after my usual full entry submission (so probably entered twice today for all i know), I got my first email conformation.   If you are right, that means the email conformation function is only tied into the 'shortcut' button that reuses your cached details, but not the full form submission function, despite both re-entering your details on a daily basis.
 

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« Reply #165 on: March 14, 2018, 10:26:20 am »
I cannot guarantee anything since I have no purview nor control of Keysight's systems. However, the submission behavior is how it was explained. There could be bugs. Caveat emptor, etc.
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« Reply #166 on: March 15, 2018, 02:01:09 am »
Every time I press this button now, I am getting immediately a confirmation email.
To me it seems to be working perfectly now.

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #167 on: March 15, 2018, 02:27:10 am »
It is amazing how Keysight managed to make it so confusing and complicated out of a simple button click.
 

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« Reply #168 on: March 15, 2018, 04:09:16 am »
No eevblog winners yet? Surely that can't be right. What's going on?

There are some great prize bundles but it's not as entertaining as last year's scope month. Where's Sebastian? Where's the gamed popularity contest and in depth vote trend analysis? Where's the 1GHz induction water heater?

On the plus side, I'm guessing it's less stressful for Daniel and the Keysight team.

You are right. Wave 2018 has somehow by far not as much suspense as the Scopemonth 2017.    :-//
Maybe, because the odds for winning are much lower in 2018.
Remember: In 2017 were 5 Keysight 1000x scopes every weekday plus 2 Keysight 4000x on every friday in the sweepstake - for the whole month. That sums up to a total of 125 winners.   :-+
In 2018 are 12 bundles and maybe 6 additional Keysight 1000x scopes possible.
This 18 winners are divided over (IIRC) 17 eligible countries.
Assuming, the part of the people which participate is in every country the same:
Compare the USA with (for example) Venezuela. 322 million people versus 30 million people. Estimate yourself the odds for a guy from Venezuela...     :(
Or from Chile (18 million people)...    :(
Even for someone from Germany (81 million) are the odds not very well.

Don´t let me be misunderstood: Big thanks to keysight for making this sweepstake (and making it international). No other company is doing something similar.
And for the winners are the bundles a really fantastic prize, that´s for sure.

But, the lower the odds of winning, the lower is my suspense and interest.
At least, that applies to me. Maybe for others too. 

And: No! Please, not! No second SEBASTIAN!   :o    Really not necessary!   :palm:  |O
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #169 on: March 15, 2018, 06:31:57 am »
Thanks everyone for your patience, this type of system is definitely out of scope for our normal web stuff.  :-BROKE

We did fix the button error if that was an issue you were having - apparently spamming the button would throw an error.

We're also taking notes for next year regarding e-mail notifications, that is new this year thanks to popular demand. It seems like it should be simple, but there's a whole audit process we have to go through before sending any automated e-mail in order to avoid breaking laws. I'll make a stink about it for next time so that we can make sure it is more consistent and reliable.

@ProBang2, we definitely get both positive and negative feedback for our giveaways. In 2016 we gave away only 1 GHz 3000Ts and got a lot of positive responses. People seemed to like that it was a prize worthy of a well-equipped corporate R&D lab. 2017 we went full bore the other way with quantity, and got good feedback about that too with some complaints that a 1000X wasn't that compelling for many professional engineers. This year we tried to find a happy medium. We'll definitely be weighing our options for next year and try to find the best possible option.

Ultimately, this event is a way for us to say thank you to this community and the engineering community as a whole. So THANK YOU ALL! And sure, it's good for business, but that's just how we justify it - not why we do it :).
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #170 on: March 15, 2018, 08:16:56 am »
I've just found out that you need to have cookies enabled and must not auto-delete them when closing the web browser. Unfortunately that isn't explained anywhere. If you're a person concerned about privacy and have set your browser to auto-delete cookies when closing the browser you'll see the registration form again next day. So I re-registered again and again, and I assume Daniel considers this an attempted fraud and removes my entries. Only if the cookie is saved you'll see the webpage for re-entering for the next draw. Keysight, if you require cookies to be saved please tell so. Otherwise privacy concerned users won't have any chance to win because they re-register every day and you'll simply delete their entries because you think they are trying to cheat. But the problem is that the users won't see the page for re-entering the draw because of the auto-deleted cookie.

Its like complaining you have to log into the forum again after you closed your browser and cleared your cookies.
 

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« Reply #171 on: March 15, 2018, 12:20:02 pm »
While it is always great to have an opportunity to win some really cool gear, I did not even attempt to enter the competition available to Australia.  With the 2 prizes offered, I would only have really been able to use the bench gear.  The RF gear was amazing, but really far more than I would ever be likely to use and I would not have felt too comfortable winning that and flogging it off.  So only one prize was ever on my radar.

However, the material from which questions could be drawn being what it was, I just couldn't justify the time to research and prepare - plus there being one set time means that if anything happened, my opportunity would pass.  As a result, I didn't even try.

My hopes lie with Dave and his dumpster finds....
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #172 on: March 15, 2018, 02:57:31 pm »
Its like complaining you have to log into the forum again after you closed your browser and cleared your cookies.

Sorry, you got that wrong. It was a misunderstanding of what is meant by 'registration' and 'enter the draw'.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #173 on: March 15, 2018, 05:16:17 pm »
I was wondering where you had gotten to, Brumby!

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« Reply #174 on: March 15, 2018, 05:49:08 pm »
Todays German translation of the daily questionnaire was quite misleading:

"Wenn längere Netzkabel zur Versorgung eines Geräts verwendet werden, gilt für die Netzkabellänge Folgendes (alle zutreffenden Antworten auswählen):"

The term "Netzkabel" points towards the mains power supply cable (the one that you plug into your wall socket), this shouldn't have any influence on qualtity T&M equipment. So the correct answer would be "none of the answers".

Reading the correct answers " C. Sie ist wichtig, da das Rauschen, bedingt durch Umwelteinflüsse, den an das Gerät gelieferten Strom beeinflussen kann
D. Sie ist wichtig, da die Kabelimpedanz eine Signalverschlechterung verursachen kann ", I found out that the "wires" connecting a lab PS to a DUT (or similar) were mentioned. The German term would be "Prüfleitungen" or lazy language "Messstrippen"
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« Reply #175 on: March 15, 2018, 05:58:40 pm »
Todays German translation of the daily questionnaire was quite misleading:

"Wenn längere Netzkabel zur Versorgung eines Geräts verwendet werden, gilt für die Netzkabellänge Folgendes (alle zutreffenden Antworten auswählen):"

The term "Netzkabel" points towards the mains power supply cable (the one that you plug into your wall socket), this shouldn't have any influence on qualtity T&M equipment. So the correct answer would be "none of the answers".

Reading the correct answers " C. Sie ist wichtig, da das Rauschen, bedingt durch Umwelteinflüsse, den an das Gerät gelieferten Strom beeinflussen kann
D. Sie ist wichtig, da die Kabelimpedanz eine Signalverschlechterung verursachen kann ", I found out that the "wires" connecting a lab PS to a DUT (or similar) were mentioned. The German term would be "Prüfleitungen" or lazy language "Messstrippen"

Had the same issue with this question and it is not the first with an odd translation.
 

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« Reply #176 on: March 15, 2018, 06:02:50 pm »
Had the same issue with this question and it is not the first with an odd translation.

Yes, I'd prefer to read the original English text. I'm familiar with all the English technical terms, and the translation often isn't easily understandable if it wasn't done by a native speaker engineer who knows the correct native terms.

That's a general problem with translated technical stuff, if the original language is English, I always prefer the original document. Vice versa, if the original language is German, the English translation often is hilarious. Don't know if this is the same for other languages.

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #177 on: March 15, 2018, 06:19:27 pm »
I was wondering where you had gotten to, Brumby!

Oh, I was looking...
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #178 on: March 15, 2018, 06:44:09 pm »
BTW: There was a obvious typo. Nothing important. Changed the meaning only from "does matter" to "does not matter"...

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Wenn längere Netzkabel zur Versorgung eines Geräts verwendet werden, gilt für die Netzkabellänge Folgendes (alle zutreffenden Antworten auswählen):
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    C. Sie spielt keine Rolle, da das Rauschen, bedingt durch Umwelteinflüsse, den an das Gerät gelieferten Strom beeinflussen kann
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Antwort: C und D. Lange Kabel können das System beeinflussen. Achten Sie darauf, dass Sie die Messeingänge der Stromversorgung und/oder einen lokalen Bypass-Kondensator zur Abschwächung dieser Effekte verwenden.

My only fear is: The same guy translates the UI´s and manuals from Keysight...   :o
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #179 on: March 16, 2018, 12:52:49 am »
Did something change? I no longer get a confirmation email like I've been getting up until today's entry.  ???

I waited for a good hour. No email. Deleted all cookies for wave and re entered still no email yet. Switch browsers. No email.
 

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« Reply #180 on: March 16, 2018, 05:23:34 am »

I didn´t got a confirmation mail today, either.    :-//
 
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« Reply #181 on: March 16, 2018, 05:24:52 am »
Likewise. Maybe a bug.
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« Reply #182 on: March 16, 2018, 05:37:57 am »
let's start with some conspiracy theories. Daniel is from the back side of the moon and builds a keysight robot to enslave human kind!
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #183 on: March 16, 2018, 07:58:26 am »
I think they are taking on board our comments, as they have changed something, which is a positive.  As stated previously, I always have to refill the form daily due to clearing the cache.  I never get a conformation due to a bug with this method, however for the first time, it said I was entered into the daily, instead of showing the 'Daily Submit' button, you guys just normally click.  They may get it right just in time for the last draw.
 

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« Reply #184 on: March 16, 2018, 08:07:08 am »
I think they are taking on board our comments, as they have changed something, which is a positive.  As stated previously, I always have to refill the form daily due to clearing the cache.  I never get a conformation due to a bug with this method, however for the first time, it said I was entered into the daily, instead of showing the 'Daily Submit' button, you guys just normally click.  They may get it right just in time for the last draw.

hopefully
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #185 on: March 16, 2018, 09:49:11 am »
However, the material from which questions could be drawn being what it was, I just couldn't justify the time to research and prepare - plus there being one set time means that if anything happened, my opportunity would pass.  As a result, I didn't even try.

My hopes lie with Dave and his dumpster finds....

Similar story for me Brumby, too busy and stressed after the death of my wife - hoping luck is with me for Dave's dumpster dives as well (if not me, then maybe yourself :-+)
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« Reply #186 on: March 16, 2018, 01:39:08 pm »
Well, I have a chance in 4 of them...  I'm a member; I'm a supporter; I do Patreon and I responded in the Youtube comments.  There's an excellent chance I can make it to the Sydney event - just need to know where and when.  That will make 5 chances.

Don't think I'm anywhere in the ball park for the "warm and fuzzy" selection, though, which is fine.

If you do win one, I would ask for a nice, detailed photo of it on your bench.  Vicarious living has its necessities.   ;)  (and, yes, if I win, I will do likewise)
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #187 on: March 16, 2018, 02:25:31 pm »
Might be an idea to have to create an account for wave if they run it again. Daily entries would be handled by account rather than cookies and that would free up the chat for discussion of the tips, application notes and instruments.
After one entry which places one in the draw the extra entries aren't as statistically.significant anyway.

I've sure enjoyed watching the tips, reading the data sheets and app notes and lusting over the instruments.

Someday maybe.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #188 on: March 18, 2018, 02:19:00 pm »
I ended up saving everything from the site. Even the webpages (both complete and screenshot). With permission I could upload those to my dropbox folder, K04BB's site, or something similar. I couldn't get the SAP questions on time though because that is moon time for me. If the questions and answers could be provided for SAP week 2 (SAP week 1 is on their blog) that would be awesome.  :-+ The schematic challenges are found in both the scope and rf blogs of Keysight.
 

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« Reply #189 on: March 19, 2018, 03:29:55 am »
Well, I guess that's it then. Congrats for the winners.
 

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« Reply #190 on: March 20, 2018, 02:20:17 am »
I'm surprised they would remove all those PDF files from their library. They should have a dedicated area for those kind of things. Just in case I grabbed them all for future use. :)
 

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« Reply #191 on: March 20, 2018, 04:33:03 am »
Congratulations to all the winners  :)
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #192 on: March 20, 2018, 05:53:47 am »
Had the same issue with this question and it is not the first with an odd translation.

Yes, I'd prefer to read the original English text. I'm familiar with all the English technical terms, and the translation often isn't easily understandable if it wasn't done by a native speaker engineer who knows the correct native terms.

That's a general problem with translated technical stuff, if the original language is English, I always prefer the original document. Vice versa, if the original language is German, the English translation often is hilarious. Don't know if this is the same for other languages.

I was once fluent in German, but after almost 30 years I must take every opportunity to practice, lest I lose my German entirely.

A while back I was reading a hilarious German technical paper -- well, it was only hilarious to me, because as I was slogging through it, painfully pulling the meaning of each word out of my dusty grey matter, I misread Rauschen (noise) as Rauch (smoke) which influenced me to convince myself that "sauber" (which I knew meant "clean") also meant "magic" ("zauber").

Now I've finally found a setting where people might actually understand the hilarity that ensued.
 

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« Reply #193 on: March 20, 2018, 08:54:53 am »
Nver mind, did'nt win, theres always 2019!
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #194 on: March 20, 2018, 12:12:42 pm »
I'm surprised they would remove all those PDF files from their library. They should have a dedicated area for those kind of things. Just in case I grabbed them all for future use. :)

They still have them at keysight. You just have to search more. As for the dedicated area (the wave webpages), that is what was "closed" but you can still access it, as of right now, if you remember the link address.  ;) search "wavekeysight" and "making-rf-magic" or "how-to-get-clean-dc-power". Better hurry because it'll all be taken down (404'd) eventually and google may uncache it eventually as well.
 

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« Reply #195 on: March 21, 2018, 07:52:16 am »
Sorry for the radio silence! The German translations were new for us, we generally don't do that translation so there were clearly some kinks to work out. I've also given feedback to the team that we should have some sort of "view in English" type page.

Also, the PDF files & their links will probably not go away for a long, long time. The Wave collection/library pages are what is gone, not the content itself. If someone were to put them on a dropbox somewhere that wouldn't be the end of the world. The better approach would be to just post the links, though, as that will give people the latest version of those documents.

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« Reply #196 on: March 21, 2018, 12:41:18 pm »
Sorry for the radio silence!

There was a contest for a FieldFox around here, that may have helped
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #197 on: March 29, 2018, 10:11:32 pm »
Fail on the Test to Impress entry page.

https://www.wavekeysight.com/sap-close/
And, you have until March 31 to enter the Test to Impress Contest. Winners will be announced by April 15 on the Keysight Labs YouTube Channel.
But the link to enter https://www.wavekeysight.com/sap-landing/sap-test-impress/ loads the /sap-close page contents, so no one can enter.
 

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« Reply #198 on: April 02, 2018, 01:18:58 am »
Does entering Test to Impress would receive confirmation email?
 

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« Reply #199 on: April 03, 2018, 05:07:32 pm »
@tmaiman89, I don't recall. If you're concerned you can PM me your info and I'll check on it. I'm confident that form worked, though, based on the quantity of entries received.
 
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« Reply #200 on: April 04, 2018, 08:58:34 pm »
Sounds like a lot of entries received. Seems my chance pretty small :pray:
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #201 on: April 07, 2018, 04:14:30 pm »
Fail on the Test to Impress entry page.

https://www.wavekeysight.com/sap-close/
And, you have until March 31 to enter the Test to Impress Contest. Winners will be announced by April 15 on the Keysight Labs YouTube Channel.
But the link to enter https://www.wavekeysight.com/sap-landing/sap-test-impress/ loads the /sap-close page contents, so no one can enter.

"Not a match"  :-//
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