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Offline Brumby

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2018, 10:46:25 am »
... and what is Keysights policy in regards to bribery and corruption for this years event, I can pay cash on the side if need be.   :-X :)

I believe bribes need to be in the five-figure region to be entertained ... and you put them through the sales department.  As I understand it, such payments are so effective, that if you get the amount right, the sales department will even ship the products to you outside the timeframes mentioned in the promotion.

(but don't tell anyone)
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2018, 01:56:49 pm »
I look forward to winning so I can stop (*ahem, pause..*) spending money on one hobby for a while.

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2018, 02:53:39 pm »
You silly, twisted boy....

You KNOW it's just big step further down the rabbit hole....
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2018, 12:00:17 am »
Thanks Daniel,
I'm looking forward to the event.  :-+

Just one question (i hope i don't look greedy): Could you please tell us, what options are installed? thanks  ;)
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2018, 12:10:15 am »
Just one question (i hope i don't look greedy): Could you please tell us, what options are installed? thanks  ;)

MSOX3054T    Oscilloscope, mixed signal, 4+16 channel, 500MHz    1
DSOXT3APPBNDL    SW application bundle license for 3000 XT-Series    1
33622A    33600A Series Waveform generator, 120 MHz, 2-channel    1
34470A (34465)    Digital multimeter, 7 1/2 digit, Truevolt DMM    1
E36313A    DC power supply, triple-output, 6 V, 10 A and 2 x 25 V, 2 A, 160 W: LAN, USB    1
U1282A    True RMS 60000 Count Handheld DMM    1

N9918A    26.5 GHz FieldFox Microwave Analyzer    1
N9918A-211    Vector network analyzer full 2-port S-parameters    1
N9918A-233    Spectrum analyzer    1

N7555A    ECal Module DC to 26.5 GHz, 2-port    1
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2018, 12:20:09 am »
Ah thanks. Where did you get that info ?
Edit: Nevermind ... found it.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2018, 12:22:10 am by Deridex »
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2018, 09:22:13 pm »
Really great of Keysight to do this - entered last year with no luck, but, hey, better odds than the national lottery  :-+

Been refreshing the home workshop slowly as funds allow - was considering the E36311A anyways, but the E36313A was just out-of-budget...

Here's hoping !
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2018, 09:30:03 am »
Out of curiosity, I notice that the "company" field is required this year (maybe it was last year as well). Does that mean amateurs/hobbyists shouldn't apply for this particular contest, or can we just make up a fake company name? I suppose I wonder if this one is more focused towards proper EE folks rather than us normal plebs.

Either way this contest looks amazing, that bench of gear literally made my jaw drop!

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2018, 11:51:14 am »
I took my lead from a recent purchase from TI.  They had a company name field requirement - but gave an alternative of "Independent Designer".

So, that's what I used for the Keysight promo.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2018, 12:34:33 pm »
"Independent Designer" sounds good. Otherwise, the good old "Self" will probably work.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2018, 09:20:08 pm »
Forgive me for asking, but why are there so many excluded countries in this contest, while the country of origin doesn't seem to be an issue with the power supply contest?
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2018, 11:05:00 pm »
There could be several reasons from the total value of the prize pool to the fact that the power supply competition has no element of chance in it.  Entries are judged on their merit.

This makes a huge difference in a lot of situations.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2018, 11:12:16 pm »
There could be several reasons from the total value of the prize pool to the fact that the power supply competition has no element of chance in it.  Entries are judged on their merit.

This makes a huge difference in a lot of situations.
I know. That's why a lot of radio stations ask you to answer a trivial question. Considering the disppoinment of many people about being excluded in the Scope Month, or Wave, it seems logical to look for a similar way of avoiding these kinds of limitations. Why exclude so many people when it's quite possible to include almost all?

Keysight has indicated very clearly that it tries hard to include as many people as possible, which I both believe and applaud.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2018, 11:21:15 pm »
Radio station prizes are in a slightly different league to the sort of prize pool Keysight is offering - and the authorities are probably going to take a much more serious assessment of the so-called competition of "skill".

With the power supply competition, the skill is fairly evident - and open for public scrutiny, so any half-baked skills requirements are going to be called out by the participants - and the authorities will have a reasonably clear course of action.  So the trivial question approach is not going to fly.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2018, 11:41:12 pm »
Radio station prizes are in a slightly different league to the sort of prize pool Keysight is offering - and the authorities are probably going to take a much more serious assessment of the so-called competition of "skill".

With the power supply competition, the skill is fairly evident - and open for public scrutiny, so any half-baked skills requirements are going to be called out by the participants - and the authorities will have a reasonably clear course of action.  So the trivial question approach is not going to fly.
It's not a matter of scale or dodging scrutiny. Something requires skill, or it doesn't. Legal precedences have long been set, so it isn't hard to devise something that falls well into the right category, without being overly challenging or hard.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2018, 01:01:28 am »
Something requires skill, or it doesn't.

You are being far too simplistic.  That is a black and white statement in a very grey world.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2018, 01:06:32 am »
You are being far too simplistic.  That is a black and white statement in a very grey world.
I addressed that in the rest of my comment. A rich history of legal cases shows a fairly well defined boundary between what qualifies as requiring skill and what doesn't. The vast expanse of grey has been neatly sorted into black and white by the courts. It really shouldn't be much of a challenge to create a contest that's properly on the right side of the boundary.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2018, 01:08:11 am »
Which is what Keysight will have done.

I'd put money on that.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2018, 01:10:31 am »
Which is what Keysight will have done.

I'd put money on that.
As it's not currently a contest, it doesn't seem they have.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2018, 03:50:55 am »
One (in my Sight important) question: Will the stuff be send from Keysight directly or via a local distributor ?
The huge value of the stuff would make a quite big customs-payment as far i know.  |O
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2018, 10:11:57 am »
This was a question asked many times in last year's Scope Month.

As far as I know, there wasn't any issue with that.  I think the only impact was the "income" assessment that USA winners have had to bear.


I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
 

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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2018, 12:37:39 pm »
You can check out the thread from last year's Scope Month. Posts from people who received their prizes begin approximately on this page: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/contests/scope-month-2017-megathread/275/. See if a winner in your location posted their experience. This year may be similar unless there were changes to laws, etc. in your location.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2018, 11:28:27 am »
The gear will be fulfilled directly through Keysight, but my understanding is that it will happen in a way that doesn't slap you with a bunch of customs fees/import tariffs. To my knowledge, this hasn't been an issue for people.

There may or may not be tax implications based on your country/state/county/shire of residence. If you win and are concerned about it, please talk to a local tax expert.
 
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2018, 01:33:51 pm »
Australia is not included :scared:. I guess import taxes are too high in Australia.
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Re: Wave 2018 (formerly Scope Month)
« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2018, 06:45:42 am »
Sorry. Maybe it just be only in my case, but...

I`ve just received three invitings from Keysight to their wavekeysight livefeed.   :wtf:
I registered to the sweepstake only one time, with a sole eMail adress.
(At the scopemonth´s I had different adresses.)

Something seems to went wrong. Failure from my side? Somehow I am multiple registered?    :-//
Or got everyone this invitation three times?       :phew:

See yourself:

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