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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2016, 06:50:56 am »
They could be using deeper coils to get the same surface area, at the cost of higher restriction.

Where I think they're really losing out on efficiency is the way they're bouncing the cold air off the ceiling. A design that would make more sense is to draw from the top/sides/bottom and blow out the front, with stepper motors controlling the vents. Add a PIR array (really low resolution thermal camera) to automatically detect where to direct the cooling to where it's needed. Drive the compressor off an inverter so it can be throttled back to match demand exactly. You'll basically end up with something that works like a fancy Gree mini split, just a lot easier to install.
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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2018, 12:30:57 pm »
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/kapsul-cool-redefined-design#/updates/all

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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2018, 03:25:44 pm »
They should have called it Kaput.  >:D
 

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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2018, 05:53:27 am »
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/kapsul-cool-redefined-design#/updates/all

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TWO: We didn’t want to give you uncertain information without real dates, but we need you to know that there is now NO WAY that we are going to deliver by summer of 2018. We know how flipping frustrated and disappointed many of you are to hear that. We feel it too. I can say that our founders are currently in China working on our factory order and will have an actual, final, very real delivery date when they return and the ink is dry on the page. By or before April 15, we shall release a moment by moment timeline of the birth and delivery of your air conditioner.

THREE: We are really, tremendously, profoundly sorry about being so late. We want to try to compensate and thank you in some tangible way for sticking with us through this saga and making it possible to create the most amazing air conditioner ever built by anyone... anywhere... period. For some of you, we recognize that this is just a bridge too far and you can take no more! We will work hard to help you too. All that said …I’d love your input. Tell me how we can repay you for your support, kindness and trust.
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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2018, 06:51:44 am »
Yes I know you do have some hinges. ;)
But the sliders are historically the far most common, as far as I 've seen on TV at least.  :P

I don't recall ever seeing a window that wasn't sliding, unless you count camper trailers or old mobile homes. I've been to a number of parts of the US, most of the populated areas in Western Canada and part of the UK and sliding windows seem to be pretty standard. I'm not sure how you'd make a window AC unit for a window that didn't slide.
 

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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2018, 07:10:20 am »
And just like Batterooiser, you cannae change the laws of physics!
 

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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2018, 01:50:55 pm »
I don't recall ever seeing a window that wasn't sliding, unless you count camper trailers or old mobile homes. I've been to a number of parts of the US, most of the populated areas in Western Canada and part of the UK and sliding windows seem to be pretty standard.

You've never seen casement windows  :-//

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I'm not sure how you'd make a window AC unit for a window that didn't slide.

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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2018, 02:06:30 pm »
Oh I guess I have seen casement windows, now that I think about it there are a couple of them in my mom's house. They're certainly rare around here though, the vast majority are sliding.
 

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Re: Lightweight Window AirConditioner - Noria - Too good to be true?
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2018, 03:56:04 am »
I found this article but it is a bit old:

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/04/18/noria-air-conditioner-kickstarter-kurt-swanson/

It explains a lot about the concerns that it may be a scam, comments from backers due to the delays, reply by Swanson who is leading up the Noria venture. They raised $2.2 million and it seems they are disappearing quietly into the night with all that money.
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