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Offline Roy1

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Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« on: November 13, 2017, 02:28:39 AM »
Hello,

New here. Someone recommend to me I come here to learn about scam projects. I was interested in this project but want peoples opinions. I am kinda skeptical.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/844770272/make-your-water-great-again-with-the-prim-water-so?ref=discovery

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Offline Ian.M

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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 02:40:27 AM »
Scam.   Any claims that the state of water molecules can be changed by a magnetic field *and* those changes will persist for more than a very small fraction of a second as the water leaves the field are a red flag that indicates the description of the device's method of operation is entirely bogus.   
 

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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 03:03:54 AM »
I love how they slapped "make your water great again" on there, this must be a joke. Also wouldn't you want to avoid having samarium-cobalt anywhere near your drink water? Cobalt on its own can be nasty, though in these quantities I wouldn't worry about it. But I wouldn't want samarium anywhere near my drink water supply anytime soon.
 

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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 03:09:06 AM »
"Most people don’t realize that one can absorb up to 8 glasses of water through the skin during a quick 10-minute shower.
Soaking up water in this way is especially dangerous because the chlorine goes directly into your bloodstream. This means you absorb 6 times more chlorine per glass while showering than if you were drinking the same water."


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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 03:20:07 AM »
Changes pH too?  Good one.  This one is easily testable but you notice they have no test results?  The carbon block filter probably does the most work and you can buy those in stores now.  I've seen variants of this with products clamping various devices to the outside of the pipe.  I study water for one of my other hobbies.  Home brewing.  Ask them to post independent lab results of water testing. 
 

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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 04:06:17 AM »
actually I am thinking of asking them to do multiple open events so anyone can be invited to go see it and if this product does what it says.
 

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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 04:29:19 AM »
Ward labs is a lab used by many in the home brew world to test the water.  See if at one of these events they are willing to let you collect a before and after vial for testing.  It will save you money in the long run. ;)
 

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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 05:42:07 AM »
"FAR INFRARED RAY CREAMIC"?  :-// :palm:
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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 07:22:57 AM »
"FAR INFRARED RAY CREAMIC"?  :-// :palm:
You're far more patient than I to read that drivel in enough detail to catch something like that.  I start reading obvious BS market speak and just glaze over.
 

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Re: Pi-Water Sotfner - is it a scam?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 08:17:17 AM »
"FAR INFRARED RAY CREAMIC"?  :-// :palm:

Yes, it obviously connects to the samarium-cobalt flux magnetic decoupler at the input to provide positive emotional feedback to the water.
 


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