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Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« on: March 18, 2018, 06:27:10 pm »
I don't have much to say about this thing other than they make some pretty outlandish claims and statements in relation to how much easier and less complex it is to use when compared to regular multimeters, that's a bold claim considering how they expect people to learn and remember some ridiculous colour sequence.

Their initial goal wasn't all that much so the campaign was funded rather quickly, some credit due for that I suppose and they are at least responding to questions in the comments section, somebody specifically asked in relation to the meters certification or compliance but this has not been completed from what I understood.

"Using multimeters to measure items was always a struggle due to its complex nature and outdated system".


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Vion Kickstarter Page.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1441579202/the-worlds-simplest-bluetooth-multimeter






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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2018, 06:48:30 pm »
"so you don’t have to worry about the risks of damage due to wrong selections"

Shows after-effects visual of current shunt and fuse glowing red on a meter.... Vion does not have current modes, so, yes I guess they are right, you're going to have a hard time burning out a current shunt and fuse that doesn't exist.


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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2018, 07:03:34 pm »
They wrote or mentioned somewhere in the marketing bullshit about people "having to make sense of the numbers" in regards to reading a conventional multimeter, it is these types of comments that will readily bring scrutiny and ridicule to a product such as this, they should know better.
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2018, 07:23:31 pm »
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For existing multimeters, if the placement of the probes is off by even a little, the multimeter’s internal circuit board (PCB) may be damaged. Vion, however, is easily manageable, as there is no body or internal circuit board.

 :palm: :palm: :palm:  Some of their claims might just be misleading, but this is straight up lying.

 

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2018, 08:25:21 pm »
"1.00O Hm" across that jumper wire  :-DD

EDIT: Look at the rest of the data displayed on the phone

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2018, 08:29:50 pm »
Seems like the Vion only does |readings|  :-DD

This is a joke right? Parody?
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2018, 09:03:36 pm »
USB charging port
Yeah, that's what you want, a multimeter that only works when two devices are charged (meter + phone)  ::)

 
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2018, 09:05:55 pm »
And it does DC current measurements..  :palm:
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2018, 09:07:56 pm »
So how can you tell which lead is the positive connection when doing dc measurements?

No internal circuit board, that’s interesting (I also have never broken my “fragile” multimeter pcb by proving a few mm in the wrong direction)
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2018, 09:10:54 pm »
So how can you tell which lead is the positive connection when doing dc measurements?

No internal circuit board, that’s interesting (I also have never broken my “fragile” multimeter pcb by proving a few mm in the wrong direction)

As far as I know, it's not possible. Presumably it will just give a positive value, hence the |reading| sign (absolute value).
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2018, 09:24:36 pm »
The first moment the thingy reminded me of the older Duspol devices, as they had also black housing. They're well build and extremely robust. I remember my dad had one analogue Duspol at work. Everyone called it Klapper for a reason. Nearly indestructable and safe to use. But this is just :palm:

And the second thing: It was founded after 18 hours. And counting...

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And it does DC current measurements..  :palm:
No they don't, see the technical data on KS. Would be very interesting to see how they would deign a shunt through the springy cable which would be required for current measurements.

Edit: I was wrong. In the comment section they really think about to include DC current measurement... :palm:
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2018, 10:02:22 pm »
They wrote or mentioned somewhere in the marketing bullshit about people "having to make sense of the numbers" in regards to reading a conventional multimeter, it is these types of comments that will readily bring scrutiny and ridicule to a product such as this, they should know better.

And their meter then goes and displays those numbers.
I don't see the point, it's trying to solve problems that either don't exist, or already have better solutions. e.g. AC detection stick.
 

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2018, 07:22:34 am »
The first DMM that might make your wife/girlfried happy.  ;D
The probing pin must be removeable though.  The beeper is old  ;D,  how about some vibration feature for continuity?
 

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2018, 07:44:09 am »
But pulling the Vion from your bag and having to bring the probes to contact with the things... then reading numbers... so much work... makes me tired just thinking about it. Come on this is 2018, wake me up when Kickstarter has a contactless resistance meter that transmits the data directly to your brain(R).

[Edited: resistance, not current, slight mind malfunction due to Vion]
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2018, 03:15:11 pm »
They definitely have the best Rccuracy I've ever seen in a meter.

 
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2018, 03:20:04 pm »
Rccuracy on Frequence is best in class.
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2018, 03:29:39 pm »
USB charging port
Yeah, that's what you want, a multimeter that only works when two devices are charged (meter + phone)  ::)


A long history of me using phone or tablet attachable devices has taught me that it's always more of a hassle than I'd like. I'll take a regular multimeter every time, unless something like logging is involved. Even then it's still a hassle.
 

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2018, 03:31:01 pm »
Rccuracy on Frequence is best in class.
Don't forget its operating temperature range is between -10 to 50 of any units of your choice!
 

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2018, 04:16:22 pm »
Rccuracy on Frequence is best in class.
Don't forget its operating temperature range is between -10 to 50 of any units of your choice!

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2018, 04:20:50 pm »
I dunno, reading the multimeter numbers is so complicated! How is one supposed to know what 12.00 DC means? Reading the continuity buzzer is darn near impossible! Why use a bulky multimeter when you can use your $600+ phone to read the app.  :palm:
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2018, 04:59:55 pm »
I dunno, reading the multimeter numbers is so complicated! How is one supposed to know what 12.00 DC means? Reading the continuity buzzer is darn near impossible! Why use a bulky multimeter when you can use your $600+ phone to read the app.  :palm:
To be fair, I can't call with my $600 multimeter.
 
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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2018, 10:54:58 pm »
To be fair, I can't call with my $600 multimeter.

And your multimeter dosn't measure emductors, i guess proofreading was too expensive for them.

 

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2018, 09:05:26 pm »
This is hilarious, it appears that some Youtube gadget marketing channel has been reading this forum and have hijacked my thread title, they have then included my text as part of the Youtube video title, it must be some type of new elaborate marketing strategy or something.   :o ::) :P

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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2018, 09:27:47 pm »
Duh... I made simplest meters when I was a kid using a few resistors and a galvanometer:



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Re: Vion : The Worlds Silliest Multimeter
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2018, 10:40:37 am »
And it does DC current measurements..  :palm:

Is it fused then? And how much current? What gauge is that connecting wire, or is it multi-core?

That charging port better be isolated too. Otherwise it could blow up something if plugged in or arc a voltage to your hand.

An app? So this is an invitation for IOT wank loving hipsters to mess with electricity and kill themselves? :palm: on second thought...Darwin would be proud! >:D
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