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I recently stumbled upon this website: https://www.goldaks.com/

They are claiming to sell a gold detector that works over a hilarious distance, quote: "based on ion technology emitted from magnetic fields buried in the ground".

"A valuable and important part of our product is of course the mother board, which is encrypted in this panel and the formula for our unique algorithm developed over decades. This algorithm is the secret of our success."

"Laser Distance Sensor (LDS) Intelligent scanning for high efficiency. Allows the device to scan its surroungings at 360 degrees, 3600 times per second"

The chinese knockoffs can even detect diamonds.  :scared:
etc....   :-DD

Retail price starts at $2.700,-

google for "aks detector" There are a lot of websites out there, selling this POS.

What do you think?
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This is a tricky one. They have a device which can detect gold worth millions and millions of dollars, and they have a need to sell the device to other people. What do you think, true or scam? ;)
 

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This is a tricky one. They have a device which can detect gold worth millions and millions of dollars, and they have a need to sell the device to other people. What do you think, true or scam? ;)

Perhaps they're agoraphobic and can't go out to find the millions and millions of dollars for themselves?

Maybe they're philanthropists?
 

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Would they send the device to a customer, and the customer will pay the device with the gold they find? No royalties for the gold found? They aren't too clever marketing people after all, so they have to be philanthropists.
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2018, 09:47:51 am »
"GOLD AKS, which are classified and located in the United States in Texas and Israel in Silicon Valley"
So why does the voiceover sound like Chinglish, or at least certainly not scripted by a native English speaker.


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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2018, 10:17:04 am »
The adress in Austin is not a plant, its just an office building. The same is true for the Tel Aviv adress.
Besides that, I am not aware of any known physical mechanism that would allow to detect different material, including non conductive stuff like diamonds burried 70m deep and 5km away from the detector, using earths magnetig field, ions and antennas. 
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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2018, 10:29:19 am »
Just for a laugh and out of curiosity silly me went looking for Youtube videos in regards to "long range detection" and in particular the comments sections, I really wish I hadn't now, I discovered there are those who actually believe in this garbage and are using gadgets such as these as a type of beeping dowsing device.

Disturbing stuff I must say.   :o ::)
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2018, 10:44:50 am »
I bet they're just reselling the same Chinese crap they're accusing of being fake.

No this is only true veritable device. Here happy customer for you knowledge

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Finally i found this unique device i searched over 4 years about this product and i bought 3 different fakes of this aks device they are all fakes and dont work at all.. i wanted to believe in this fakes devices but when you will buy this GOLD AKS original you will understand why you will all the time be in the field and search and find treasures as easy i just thank god because i have this device thank you AHMAD

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2018, 10:49:51 am »
I wonder why these guys don't use the AKS Gold Detector:

"Yukon Gold"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2758692/

They would get much more money using AKS Gold Detector compared to the money they get from the reality show. ;)

Ps. Why Ahmad is only a Silver Member, although he has bought AKS Gold Detector?
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2018, 10:51:15 am »
"GOLD AKS, which are classified and located in the United States in Texas and Israel in Silicon Valley"
So why does the voiceover sound like Chinglish, or at least certainly not scripted by a native English speaker.

The citations from 'satisfied customers' read in a startlingly similar way to the rest of the site, hmmmm, could it be that they were written by the same people?
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2018, 10:56:47 am »
To be honest, I'm considering buying one. I've emailed them about a very-short-range version as I'm subject to electromagnetic hypersensitivity.
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2018, 10:58:47 am »
Talking about testimonials, this is my favorite:


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I have bought more than 300,000 devices in my life all my life. I am trying to find the device that will take me to the exact point and blessed prophet Muhammad who brought me to the exact point. Thank you for the advanced and real advanced technology Ali Saudi Arabia
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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2018, 08:23:55 pm »
You can detect gold from a distance, using spectrometry and an excitation source, say a laser.. but if you have something that can bore through 5km of rock or soil, you can just sell that as a weapon.

That said, an affordable portable laser spectrometer for prospecting purposes would be wonderful.  Detecting just elemental metals like gold, silver, platinum, and palladium would suffice.
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2018, 10:01:32 pm »
Looks like an upgraded version of the ADE 651 with multiple WiFi antennas instead of a single FM radio antenna! The ADE 651 was a far bigger + dodgier scam though with the kickbacks and bribes that meant some places actually used it for bomb detection  |O
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2018, 10:27:29 pm »
That said, an affordable portable laser spectrometer for prospecting purposes would be wonderful.  Detecting just elemental metals like gold, silver, platinum, and palladium would suffice.

I what you described already exists and it is sold by Olympus (the ones doing cameras and microscopes) it uses X-ray fluorescence spectroscopy and tells you the elemental make up of almost anything, they  are less useful/precise with light elements but for heavier stuff like silver and gold they are perfect

They are battery powered and remind a heat gun in shape and size
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2018, 01:19:29 am »
You can detect gold from a distance, using spectrometry and an excitation source, say a laser.. but if you have something that can bore through 5km of rock or soil, you can just sell that as a weapon.

That said, an affordable portable laser spectrometer for prospecting purposes would be wonderful.  Detecting just elemental metals like gold, silver, platinum, and palladium would suffice.

Exactly. Metal detecting is rubbish, spectroscopy is where it's at. There are plenty of handheld spectrometers on the market.

There are also bore-hole laser spectrometers. However, they are terrible ugly machines that look like a ton of air conditioners strapped to a back-hoe.

I personally had the idea of a small and portable fluoroscope device (using similar but a bit stronger emitters/detectors than the handhelds) that could simply be attached to the end of a cable and lowered down the hole and sample the walls on the way down. You could choose between wired or battery operated wireless versions.
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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2018, 02:32:05 am »
Here is a picture of some rocks from a very rich gold vein deep inside a hard rock mine; note the tiny little chunks of gold that I have circled.  With real detecting equipment these possibly could be detected at 5 Centimeters.  The fancy x-ray device that Cody's Lab has might be able to give a reasonable assay. 
History has proven that the suppliers to fools rushing for gold have a much better business plan than the gold seekers.
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2018, 03:55:02 am »
note the tiny little chunks of gold that I have circled
Those are bigger than the nuggets I've ever panned!  ;D  Well, maybe not, but definitely in the same approx. 1-2mm diameter range.

That said, I was thinking of a contact meter that could detect trace amounts (of a few precious metals) from a freshly chipped stone face, not a tool for locating mineable veins or actual nuggets...

(The "mother lode" part was supposed to be a joke. There are interesting formations in Northern Finland, including completely eroded old volcanoes, with just the "magma pipe" (not a geologist, don't know the correct term) parts left, and the bedrock on the surface; not much soil. It'd be interesting to just go for a trek, chip some stones, and see what lies under the surface, mapping some out.)
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2018, 05:38:17 am »
I what you described already exists and it is sold by Olympus (the ones doing cameras and microscopes) it uses X-ray fluorescence spectroscopy and tells you the elemental make up of almost anything, they  are less useful/precise with light elements but for heavier stuff like silver and gold they are perfect

They are battery powered and remind a heat gun in shape and size


I saw one of those once when I hauled in a load of scrap material from my friend's machine shop. There were a few good sized chunks machined out of billet alloy and the guy at the scrapyard had a handheld device that showed the precise makeup of the alloy. Seemed practically magic, at the time I'd never seen anything like it.
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2018, 06:13:13 am »
The usefulness of these devices for alloy identification really depends on the base material, the biggest problem for them is steel. where this systems can give you only a rough idea of which type of steel you are looking at, this is because the most important alloying element in steel is carbon and it is almost impossible to get a correct reading for it due to surface contamination which is difficult to eliminate in a vacuum (in SEM systems with XRF capability)and basically impossible in the field
 
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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2018, 08:36:41 am »
You can detect gold from a distance, using spectrometry and an excitation source, say a laser.. but if you have something that can bore through 5km of rock or soil, you can just sell that as a weapon.

That said, an affordable portable laser spectrometer for prospecting purposes would be wonderful.  Detecting just elemental metals like gold, silver, platinum, and palladium would suffice.

The golden color of gold is not very specific. So one can not really distinguish gold from other materials that look like it by optical spectroscopy.

Xray florescent spectroscopy works, but is an rather expensive instrument and may need a special permit because of the radiation involved.
 

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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2018, 10:56:36 am »
Wait, they are not talking about detecting gold that is exposed. They are talking about detecting gold that is burried 70m and 5km away, like captain Jack Sparrow's compass pointing to what he wanted most .
Spectroscopy won't work that way. So no, there is no such technology that could do, what these people claim.
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Re: AKS Gold detector - find gold up to a distance of 5km..... wtf, scam
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2018, 03:59:18 pm »
Wait, they are not talking about detecting gold that is exposed. They are talking about detecting gold that is burried 70m and 5km away, like captain Jack Sparrow's compass pointing to what he wanted most .
Spectroscopy won't work that way. So no, there is no such technology that could do, what these people claim.

Flouroscopy can go several inches, but the power required to go even over a foot would require some sort of massive X-ray laser or something. Maybe one day when we go mining asteroids or something we'll have spectrometers strong enough to go that far, but that would still be impractical (and dangerous) on Earth.
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