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Offline alsetalokin4017

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Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« on: April 14, 2019, 01:19:07 am »
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The Earth Engine is capable of producing 40+Kw of mechanical energy. This energy can be used to generate electricity, operating pumps, compressors, and other mechanical devices.

The Earth Engine is not a perpetual motion machine. The Earth Engine uses the force created from two opposing magnets. Magnets are a depleting resource that requires “recharging” every three years. If the engine is shut down, it will stop rotating the drive system.

The Earth Engine is the only known power source propelled by Asymmetrical Magnetic Propulsion, producing energy that can be applied to generating electricity, and operating pumps, compressors, and other mechanical devices. With its massive list of features that set it above the competition. The Earth Engine does not consume any fossil fuels, it does not run on the sun, the wind, hydro, bio-fuels, or radioactive fuel sources. It can run 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year creating constant energy unlike renewable technologies such as solar and wind. It is not reliant on a reaction, or burning of fuel source.

Individuals, corporations, and municipalities can invest or participate with IEC Earth Engine technology and ZEROGRID strategies in a multitude of ways. Visit our Getting Involved page for further details. (Source: https://ie.energy/faq.html)

This one's a hoot. They have a factory, they are giving demonstrations, they supposedly have "Earth Engines" installed and running at several locations. The main man is a fellow called Dennis Danzik and they have a bunch of seemingly experienced people on staff.



And there is more.

I would really like to know what members here think of this. Danzik has an interesting history....  This is a bigtime operation, not some little YouTube tinkerer with a wrench and a fake light bulb. And it's not like audiophoolery either, where any expensive effects are "really there you just aren't sensitive and have a tin ear".... I mean the claim is 25 kW output with no input, running for three years.... that's not your usual YouTube "free energy" scam entertainment claim.
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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2019, 01:37:47 am »
Danzik has an interesting history.... 

Indeed. ::)
http://bankrupt.com/misc/wyb16-20002-245.pdf

So at least his motivation for being involved in this upscale scam is easy to understand...
 
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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2019, 02:08:32 am »
It's the same old bullshit, just scaled up.
 

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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2019, 02:50:31 am »
Scaled up is right.

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A VIP group from the ‘Freedomworks’ conference, which included legislative leaders and a US Congressman, visited the IEC national training center on March 29, 2019. Guests watched videos and saw live demonstrations of various ‘Earth Engines’, followed by a Q&A with inventor Dennis Danzig and IEC CEO Bill Hinz, former head of McDonnell Douglas Helicopters and AlliedSignal aerospace. The group also saw the newest parts created entirely from clear Lexan plastic. Soon there will be a fully operational, see-through plastic motor to help dispel suspicions of a ‘hidden’ power source. The system is in fact closed, and all power is derived from the rare-earth magnetic ‘fuel.’



I think this deserves more attention than the typical entertainment audiophoolery or YouTube motor-generator-lightbulb trick. There is either some bigtime fraudery underway here (probability > 0.99999...) OR the end of the world as we know it energy-wise (probability so small as to be negligible.)

Are there any forum members nearby any of the supposed installations, like in Las Vegas NV USA or Scottsdale AZ USA? They had a demonstration in Austin TX a few months ago but I was not aware of this at that time, or I certainly would have gone to take a look.   :box:

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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2019, 10:30:04 am »
Sounds like a 21st Century version of J. E. W. Keely's scam from the 19th Century, Wikipedia has a reasonable article on him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ernst_Worrell_Keely
 
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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2019, 05:06:09 pm »
Sounds like a 21st Century version of J. E. W. Keely's scam from the 19th Century

Thank you; I had not come across that story yet. Impressively, Keely kept his scam going for more than 25 years, and seems to have lived off the funding from patrons and investors during much of that time. 

Let's see how long his modern-day disciples can keep their scheme going. They are off to a good start, by announcing that they will delay any patent applications and rely on trade secrets... 
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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2019, 06:14:07 pm »
25 years is good going.  My local charlatans got to 16 years as an actual company: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn
 
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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2019, 10:25:52 pm »
Wait.  Wait, wait.

All plastic, see-through motor?  It's not Orbo, is it? :-DD

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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 12:03:24 am »
I guess the biggest difference to other "magnet motor" scams is the size, nearly 3000 kg. For $10k, you get a small amount of scrap metal.

They make so many bogus claims, like it doesn't use up finite resources. So rare earth magnets are in infinite supply?

From the webshite :

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We "push" the large mass by controlling the magnetic field. When the two opposing fuel sources (magnetic fields) driving the flywheel mass are in the correct position, the Engine fires a small electromagnetic charge measuring about 52-watts. This charge allows the opposing fuel sources to "see" each other, and can produce significant force to spin the large flywheel mass.

So ignoring the gobbledygook (and there is a lot of that), it's a pulse motor?

I recall that Steorn also engaged "independent consultants" to write a report, and not much came of that. A fundamental mistake of these schemes is to attempt a proof, instead of just collecting believers and their dollars. ;)
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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2019, 12:32:01 am »
No, the magnets are rechargeable they say. ;D
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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2019, 04:27:34 am »
The sad if not surprising part is legislators and a congressman being gullible enough to visit.

I don't know what it is about the concept "you cannot get something for nothing" that some people have such a difficult time understanding.
 

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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2019, 04:42:02 am »
The sad if not surprising part is legislators and a congressman being gullible enough to visit.

Well, they were coming from the "FreedomWorks" conference, after all...  ::)
 

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Re: Earth Engine permanent magnet power generator
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2019, 06:00:54 am »
The sad if not surprising part is legislators and a congressman being gullible enough to visit.

I don't know what it is about the concept "you cannot get something for nothing" that some people have such a difficult time understanding.

To them, they do seem to get something from nothing. It's called taxes. >:D
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