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Title: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 01:32:01 am
The IEEE Maker contest has turned into a complete joke!
Rampant vote rigging & ridiculous overunity & BS energy harvesting projects.
You won't believe the latest project!
http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/view/9c968 (http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/view/9c968)
http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/ (http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpXvt8HRdoU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpXvt8HRdoU)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 03:20:34 am
I don't know which way to go.....

 :palm:   :palm:   :palm:   :palm:   :palm:   :palm:

or

 :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD




Now, where's that auto 'Like' project.....?
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: station240 on September 05, 2016, 03:47:00 am
Now, where's that auto 'Like' project.....?

http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/view/9c968 (http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/view/9c968)

For some odd reason the website is really slow to load. I blame aliens.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 03:56:00 am
My question was rhetorical....


Never bothered with writing scripts before.  Gee, that was too easy.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 04:04:58 am
... and, yes, the site was painfully slow.  More than half the time I was served with a "Page Could Not Be Loaded" message.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Muttley Snickers on September 05, 2016, 04:05:12 am
For some odd reason the website is really slow to load. I blame aliens.

I had the same problem and gave up trying to load the other pages/ projects, during the prolonged waiting period I went and created something immediately beneficial, a sandwich and a coffee and it's still trying to load.   :palm:   :popcorn:   :palm:
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Mr.B on September 05, 2016, 04:09:37 am
For some odd reason the website is really slow to load. I blame aliens.

If loads of people are running a script to create 'likes' the site will be suffering a DOS attack...  :-DD
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Barny on September 05, 2016, 04:12:53 am
This project is good too:
http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/view/76405 (http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/view/76405)
(Empty Project)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Bud on September 05, 2016, 04:51:51 am
Congratulations to IEEE going down the drain adopting Keysights's stupid winner selection system by simply voting on line.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 04:56:43 am
Normally I wouldn't go in for this sort of thing - but the IEEE should know better.

This has started me on a self-taught scripting venture.  Sure beats the "Hello World" standard intro....
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 05:07:24 am
Interesting....

That 'project' seems to have picked up well over 30,000 votes in the last hour!  89,646 at last (painfully slow) refresh.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: kalleboo on September 05, 2016, 05:08:38 am
Congratulations to IEEE going down the drain adopting Keysights's stupid winner selection system by simply voting on line.
I thought even the most clueless people would have learned that after Boaty McBoatface.

Time to create an IEEE Maker Project "Projecty McProjectface" I guess
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 05:11:29 am
.... and, no, I'm not going to chart this contest.



Congratulations to IEEE going down the drain adopting Keysights's stupid winner selection system by simply voting on line.
I thought even the most clueless people would have learned that after Boaty McBoatface.

Time to create an IEEE Maker Project "Projecty McProjectface" I guess

Why not!
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 05:37:53 am
100,629.

It's still going strong!
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: station240 on September 05, 2016, 05:39:56 am
100,629.

It's still going strong!

Sort of.
Threw "502 Bad Gateway" a few minutes ago, but it's back for more punishment.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 05:58:55 am
I meant the count ..... not the serving of pages.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Mr.B on September 05, 2016, 06:54:07 am
@Brumby
Post a copy of your script.
We can all get on the bandwagon and expose their stupidity...
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 07:06:34 am
... and, yes, the site was painfully slow.  More than half the time I was served with a "Page Could Not Be Loaded" message.

Oops  :-[
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Barny on September 05, 2016, 07:31:14 am
@Brumby
Post a copy of your script.
We can all get on the bandwagon and expose their stupidity...
http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/vote?code=9c968 (http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/vote?code=9c968)
[F5] hammering works too ;)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Mr.B on September 05, 2016, 07:40:52 am
Wouldn't having a lie down until you get over it be more useful?

I'm over it... Don't really give a shit.
But, i will have a lie down anyway...
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 07:44:01 am
Go!

(http://i.imgur.com/nDhJ6nL.png)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: elgonzo on September 05, 2016, 07:58:21 am
Where can i vote for India? ;)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 08:05:15 am
@Brumby
Post a copy of your script.
We can all get on the bandwagon and expose their stupidity...

I'm not one to enable such moves, but......   ::)

Watch the video in the project ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XZTqdg9yAA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XZTqdg9yAA)

It's only 4 lines - and one of those isn't necessary.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 08:06:39 am
It's only 4 lines - and one of those isn't necessary.

Cue the Linux script fanboys
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: station240 on September 05, 2016, 08:42:55 am
It's now second, another 10K fake votes to bag first.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on September 05, 2016, 08:59:23 am
$500 is a pretty pathetic prize for the IEEE
Looks to me like they're just trying jump onto the (10 year old) bandwagon & show they're trendy & not an outdated dinosaur organization...
At Maker Faire they had a pathetic stand with a guy ( In a suit as I recall) showing off a label printer connected to a Raspberry Pi...
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 09:10:34 am
Turns out there is no prize for community voting!
It actually judged! but they do encourage community voting:

Quote
All are invited to participate in voting for their favorite project online at IEEE Transmitter and share links to their projects on social media with the hashtag #IEEEMakerProject. Community members may vote once a day until September 17, 2016.

Why bother for a lousy $500/$150/$50 voucher prize?

https://www.ieee.org/about/news/2016/17may_2016.html (https://www.ieee.org/about/news/2016/17may_2016.html)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 05, 2016, 12:25:51 pm
239,413

Plus there are a few more similarly themed projects along the lines of 'the system is broken'.


I'm glad the judging is separate to the 'Like' stats.



..... and the site is still painfully slow.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Cliff Matthews on September 05, 2016, 12:44:42 pm
With a little push from EEVblog, India strikes back! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2SNPlSkvBU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2SNPlSkvBU) Too funny.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: simcop2387 on September 05, 2016, 07:36:16 pm
Took a look this morning and it looks like they removed all the projects that were trying to game the system.

http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/?keyword=&sort=popular&category=all (http://transmitter.ieee.org/makerproject/?keyword=&sort=popular&category=all)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Jacob2000 on September 05, 2016, 10:06:45 pm
Oh look.... a notice.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Sonny_Jim on September 05, 2016, 10:44:51 pm
Seems no one can vote at all and they've rolled back the votes to just before the voting script was posted?
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: EEVblog on September 05, 2016, 10:50:37 pm
#1 is now Radu's uRAD monitor
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: belasajgo on September 05, 2016, 11:22:51 pm
I can't believe that IEEE made such a big mistake and forgot to think about this kind of vulnerabilities. But in the same time I'm happy that Radu Motisan's uRADMonitor made it to the 1st place. He deserves it! I know, there is no prize for community voting, but the 1st place is the 1st place... I am a happy uRADMonitor owner since february 2014 (1200000A).
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Sonny_Jim on September 05, 2016, 11:24:14 pm
It's fairly evident that whoever setup that website is very, very inexperienced.  Not only did they screw up the voting system, it seems that their text import system can't handle anything outside of alpha numeric characters, it just replaces them with a '?' symbol.

For example, it's becomes it?s, can't becomes can?t etc etc
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: station240 on September 05, 2016, 11:51:31 pm
Funny part is all this happened over the US weekend, so 9am Monday the IEEE people running the contest get to work then...
Shiiiitt.  :palm:
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: belasajgo on September 06, 2016, 12:02:54 am
It's fairly evident that whoever setup that website is very, very inexperienced.  Not only did they screw up the voting system, it seems that their text import system can't handle anything outside of alpha numeric characters, it just replaces them with a '?' symbol. [...]

This happens when companies / organizations are hiring only cheap (and unexperienced) "professionals" and / or when the deadlines are hard to reach. :-BROKE
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Brumby on September 06, 2016, 03:05:32 am
You now need to validate your vote with an email address and a confirmation link.

I voted for the uRad..... properly.

(Some sound following robot was ahead.)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: EEVblog on September 06, 2016, 04:33:59 am
You now need to validate your vote with an email address and a confirmation link.
I voted for the uRad..... properly.

Yep, they have beefed up security around the WOPR

(http://i.imgur.com/Iy0r6DS.png)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Kadah on September 06, 2016, 06:26:45 am
This was something they brought upon themselves by not taking even minimal steps to prevent. This was a lesson on internet polls/voting that was learned back in the mid-90's. Definitely worth a facepalm and a hearty laugh.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: cbrandabur on September 06, 2016, 07:21:49 am
it was about time someone noticed that, we've sent notifications, we've sent warnings and nothing. Then we begun screwing with the top projects by generating their votes +1. We did that on 3 different ocasions hoping someone would notice. Still nothing, then we got bored and dropped it
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Sonny_Jim on September 06, 2016, 12:41:55 pm
After rolling back to an earlier vote state, it appears with the new system that all votes have been reset.  The uRad project for example had ~4000 votes, it's now on 201 votes in 2nd place.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: StuUK on September 06, 2016, 03:08:37 pm
They should be ashamed of themselves for not following their own rigorous standards.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: firehopper on September 06, 2016, 04:01:32 pm
#1 is now Radu's uRAD monitor

that deserves a prize I kinda want one of those, guess I need to google and see if it can be bought
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: Yansi on September 06, 2016, 05:44:16 pm
Well... we have a problem!   :clap:

//Oh,  sorry, someone already posted. My bad.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #25 - IEEE Maker Contest Extreme FAIL!
Post by: artag on September 07, 2016, 01:24:46 pm
#1 is now Radu's uRAD monitor

Not any more. It's being beaten x 4 by a suggestion to use a raspberry pi for remote industrial monitoring.

A fine student project but not going to fly in an industrial user where a) they want something reliable and b) they already have perfectly good remote interfaces from all of the usual automation vendors.