uBeam - Electrical Engineer

[LabSpokane]

[Standard Disclaimer: I understand the 1/r^2 law and am in no way associated with uBeam.]

http://ubeam.com/careers/electrical-engineer/

We are hiring.
Our engineering team is comprised of world-class multidisciplinary inventors, where the word “impossible” is not part of our lexicon. We take pride in solving complex technological problems quickly, across many fields. At uBeam, we go from PowerPoint to prototype in a month or less. We’re on a mission to untether the world, and we’re in search of new blood to join the team.

We’re seeking hands on, dedicated people who are driven to push the boundaries of technology, people who are not looking for a typical 9-to-5 desk job, who are looking to make tectonic shifts in the world of electricity.
Open Positions

Mechanical / Electrical Engineer

Acoustics / Piezoelectric Engineers

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Electrical Engineer

Junior to Senior Levels Required

Seeking Electrical Engineers to work on uBeam transmitter and receiver systems.  Senior level candidates should have experience / qualifications matching the majority of requirements, junior level candidates with more limited experience are desired as well, and will be additionally trained on-the-job.

EE candidates will be responsible for the design, integration, and qualification of the electronics systems.  The ideal candidate has designed high volume, high power, high-quality consumer electronics products with a consistent focus on product design as well as attention to detail.  The candidate will work closely with in-house and contract engineering teams (EE, Acoustic) to develop complete solutions.  They will work with the rest of the team to design, develop, and bring the products from concept to production.

Applicant are desired with experience in the following areas:

Electrical engineering design/engineering/build/test
Acoustic transducer driver (or low frequency power amplifier) & interface electronics
Electronics simulation (eg SPICE), design optimization, and model iteration using experimental data
Mixed signal (analog & digital) ASIC design
Battery charging and power management electronics
Microcontroller programming and architecture
PCB design, engineering, build, and test experience
Key differentiator is specific experience in all common methods of PCB fabrication and assembly (etch/mill/stencil/pick-place/etc)
Design AND build experience with high density PCBs
Chip-on-board & flex circuit design experience
Consumer electronics design experience
Electronics production and manufacturing experience
Experience in selecting EE components, writing detailed electrical specification of the system interface, and test plan documents
Communication of design requirements to fabrication houses
Define Design for Manufacturing (DFM) guidelines
Prototype build, test, and debugging
Working with vendors/suppliers/manufacturing partners
Experience in analyzing trade-offs between performance, manufacturability and cost

[Icarus]

Thx Bro. I'm going to send my cv right now.

By the way; Transferring energy via ultrasound is quite dangerous for us -flesh and blood creatures- because if somebody get in the way of focused ultrasound beam, their blood may degasify or worse.

[EEVblog]

Heads up, she just loves us "jaded" "narrow minded" "linear thinking" "prejudiced" engineers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=805&v=ukgnU2aXM2c

[timofonic]

Heads up, she just loves us "jaded" "narrow minded" "linear thinking" "prejudiced" engineers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=805&v=ukgnU2aXM2c

Oh, TED Church!

So she "designs" and pay others to do it? That reminds me of Dilbert boss.

Narrow minded people is everywhere, some are bosses that consider narrow minded to an entire professional collective.

Translation:
- Low wages, expect your salary may not come due to "economic issues".
- You are going to live there, expect massive crunching.
- You'll be fired when the project works or is a massive failure.
- Even if you show something doesn't work, she'll say you to keep trying. If you fail, you'll get fired too.
- Your bosses will see you as a bad tool to solve their issues and expect moderate mobbing everyday.

Am I right?

[tggzzz]

Heads up, she just loves us "jaded" "narrow minded" "linear thinking" "prejudiced" engineers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=805&v=ukgnU2aXM2c

Revealing; well spotted!

She's definitely arguing along the lines of:

• all revolutionary products were at some point considered crazy ideas
• this is a crazy idea, therefore it will be arevolutionary product.

And, at 14:25 she can't wait to give negative engineers the middle finger. Translation: agree with her or suffer.

[EEVblog]

And, at 14:25 she can't wait to give negative engineers the middle finger. Translation: agree with her or suffer.

She slags off engineering all the way through it, touting what an amazing thinker she is, it's gag worthy 

[LabSpokane]

She doesn't want an engineer; she wants a fortune teller with a slide rule.

What's hilarious is that this a picture off her Twitter feed as of February 2015. She's still on breadboards!! 

[mikeselectricstuff]

She doesn't want an engineer; she wants a fortune teller with a slide rule.

What's hilarious is that this a picture off her Twitter feed as of February 2015. She's still on breadboards!!

Obviously - you don't progress beyond breadboards until you have something that actually works...

[wreeve]

What are those things on the wall?

[mikeselectricstuff]

What are those things on the wall?

Failed ultrasonic transducer experiments at a guess

[Howardlong]

What are those things on the wall?

Recreational hallucinogen farm to enhance the creative bullshit no doubt.

[Howardlong]

Had a few spare moments to look at what they're "doing", as far as I can see is outfit has managed to piss between 750k and 1.75M up the wall, but has nothing more tangible to show for it than they did three years ago since they gained the funding other than a few more media hits with the same vague and unsubstantiated claims.

I'm in the wrong business.

[EEVblog]

Had a few spare moments to look at what they're "doing", as far as I can see is outfit has managed to piss between 750k and 1.75M up the wall, but has nothing more tangible to show for it than they did three years ago since they gained the funding other than a few more media hits with the same vague and unsubstantiated claims.
I'm in the wrong business.

Yup, great when people just throw money at you and you can piss it away whilst living your fantasy of trying to change the world with your "invention". Looks great on the resume for the next inevitable piss-up-a-flag-pole adventure.
She has raised $13.2M
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/ubeam
They were "getting ready to move into production" in Oct 2014:
http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/30/ubeam-10m-upfront/
but a year later and still not a single tangible demo, photo, or info on anything real that might be the least bit viable. But of course it must work because the money comes from lots of big name celebrity tech investors, they wouldn't invest in a turkey, it must be viable, it must!

[EEVblog]

and of course you get wonderfully unbiased articles like this:
http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/26/kill-the-cord/
Don't worry that the Techcrunch founder is an investor, nothing to see there.

[LabSpokane]

She has raised $13.2M

I don't know if this applies to Meredith's case or not, but I will say that I have learned the hard way that startups will even lie about the funding they have received.  Some of it is contingent, but they will leave that out of the press release and just announce the theoretical total. 

The other thing that I learned about VC's the hard way is that they will knowingly invest in hype, betting on getting their money (and handsome profit) out once the venture goes through its initial vending round where less in-the-know investors are goaded in by securities salesmen. 

Grifters abound in the startup business. 

===================================
P.S.

The moral of this for me is that the presence of venture capital is *zero* indication of due diligence on anyone's part.  It is an utterly different animal than presenting a business plan for a small-business loan.  Venture capital is not there to sell a product.  They are there to sell an *idea* to subsequent investors.  VC is a pre-IPO version of "pump and dump."

The perverted consequence of the above is that in pursuing VC, it is better to have an idea that defies scientific and engineering muster, since it will sound so much better than the market alternatives.  Hence, lavish returns are guaranteed.

[zapta]

Heads up, she just loves us "jaded" "narrow minded" "linear thinking" "prejudiced" engineers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=805&v=ukgnU2aXM2c

That's bizarre. She brags as if here technology is already a great success.

"Let not him that girdeth on his harness boast himself as he that putteth it off" 

[mikeselectricstuff]

The moral of this for me is that the presence of venture capital is *zero* indication of due diligence on anyone's part.

Ditto patents

[EEVblog]

The perverted consequence of the above is that in pursuing VC, it is better to have an idea that defies scientific and engineering muster, since it will sound so much better than the market alternatives.  Hence, lavish returns are guaranteed.

It's all about the story.
Girl (yes, fact is they are still novel in the tech field, so it doesn't hurt) with charisma but zero engineering experience comes up brain flash idea, everyone is stunned why it hasn't been done before it's so obvious, it's an ideal utopia everyone wants to believe in and needs, unlimited market potential, something only someone with "left field thinking" could have come up with it, everyone tells her it's not practical, struggle against the odds and the naysayers, bodge up prototype in record time, smoke and mirrors demo at trade show, overcome more struggle and naysayers, get some big companies (Starbucks) to say they want it, get publicity which leads to more publicity, and bam. It's real. It's gotta work because it's obviously gotten this far. Everyone buys in.

You know how it ends 

[EEVblog]

The moral of this for me is that the presence of venture capital is *zero* indication of due diligence on anyone's part.

Here is how they do their due diligence:
http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2014/10/30/the-audacious-plan-to-make-electricity-as-easy-as-wifi/

[mikeselectricstuff]

The moral of this for me is that the presence of venture capital is *zero* indication of due diligence on anyone's part.

Here is how they do their due diligence:
http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2014/10/30/the-audacious-plan-to-make-electricity-as-easy-as-wifi/

Over time, working with manufacturers, uBeam has a method that will allow the battery life to last 10x longer than today’s batteries before they degrade. They can allow manufacturers to use thinner batteries and thus further miniaturize phones.

WTF? - why would you include some more BS like this that's totally unrelated to what you're trying to sell -distraction?

Did the physics actually work? Check

references ? evidence ?

Was there consumer demand? No brainer. If electricity could be transferred like WiFi but as safe as a soundwave we use on pregnant women’s bellies

Nonsensical claim that as medical ultrasound is safe, a higher powered version is also safe.

and at a price-point that was attractive this is a multi-billion market. Check.

a multi-billion market? really?  how many people are willing to spend significant money because they can't be arsed to plug something in?
How many companies would spend money on infrastructure that will only inefficiently charge one device at a time?

Was it safe? Well … for starters it is just an inaudible soundwave being transferred – as in the kind also used for women during pregnancy.

..and welding metals and plastics. And disintegrating kidney stones. And surgical tissue ablation http://www.baroquemedical.com/ablation.html

[T3sl4co1l]

Considering my ears are made for sensing very minute vibrations, and hurt from rather low intensities (~W/m^2?), I can't say I like the idea of beaming intense ultrasound through the air.  That's like illuminating the room with comparable intensities of infrared: you can't see it, but you can feel it, and staring at it for too long will give you cataracts (a very real hazard for glassblowers, foundrymen, etc.).

Tim

[Howardlong]

From April 2015 in TechCrunch "uBeam’s Ultrasound Wireless Charging Is Real" http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/26/kill-the-cord/#.qfhg1c:5lOU

Then 1,000 words of gushing diatribe, in the final paragraph...

"uBeam is still working on a hard science problem where unexpected setbacks can happen. There are plenty of reasons it might not be able to get as cheap, powerful, fast, and safe as Perry hopes."

A debunk here:
http://lookatmeimdanny.tumblr.com/post/101432017159/how-putting-10m-into-ubeam-illustrates-everything

This sounds a bit like buying a soccer club, the value isn't in the club itself, it's that there are idiots around who are prepared to spend even more than you did on it when you come to sell it. The funding bears distinct resemblance to a Ponzi scheme that would make Bernie Madoff proud.

[EEVblog]

Considering my ears are made for sensing very minute vibrations, and hurt from rather low intensities (~W/m^2?), I can't say I like the idea of beaming intense ultrasound through the air.

Its worse than that, they want to put dozens of these into every Starbucks, all with beamforms darting all over the place tracking phones, which of course has zero potential of being harmful should they beat:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device

[Bud]

This may be dangerous for pets.

[tggzzz]

The moral of this for me is that the presence of venture capital is *zero* indication of due diligence on anyone's part.

Here is how they do their due diligence:
http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2014/10/30/the-audacious-plan-to-make-electricity-as-easy-as-wifi/

"Sucker lists" contain phone numbers of gullible people that fall victim to cold calls from teleslime operators.
Now we can start a "VC sucker list" of gullible companies.

[Zman]

this reminds me classic:

[Howardlong]

The moral of this for me is that the presence of venture capital is *zero* indication of due diligence on anyone's part.

Here is how they do their due diligence:
http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2014/10/30/the-audacious-plan-to-make-electricity-as-easy-as-wifi/

"Sucker lists" contain phone numbers of gullible people that fall victim to cold calls from teleslime operators.
Now we can start a "VC sucker list" of gullible companies.

Well they are right, the physics is proven on this remote phone charging. And the physics says it won't work without rattling itself and your house apart, needing three phase to power it, and being about 0.005% efficient. But at least, when table mounted, your sauces won't get a skin on them.

They cannot admit it's bullshit because:

(A) They're already investing other people's money;

(B) It's their career, reputation and trustworthiness on the line;

(C) They need to be in a position to sell off their tangibly worthless investment to someone else to at least get something back before the cat's out of the bag.

Because of all of these a VC will never admit any investment they make is based on a steaming pile of dog turd, at least not until they're rid of it and have made a positive ROI in (C). I am thus really struggling to define the difference between this type of VC "investment" and a Ponzi scheme.

[Howardlong]

this reminds me classic:

Indeed, the client bears an uncanny similarity to Meredith Perry in character traits.

[tggzzz]

They cannot admit it's bullshit because:

(A) They're already investing other people's money;

(B) It's their career, reputation and trustworthiness on the line;

(C) They need to be in a position to sell off their tangibly worthless investment to someone else to at least get something back before the cat's out of the bag.

Because of all of these a VC will never admit any investment they make is based on a steaming pile of dog turd, at least not until they're rid of it and have made a positive ROI in (C). I am thus really struggling to define the difference between this type of VC "investment" and a Ponzi scheme.

The important difference is easy to define: one is legal, one is illegal.

[EEVblog]

They cannot admit it's bullshit because:
(A) They're already investing other people's money;
(B) It's their career, reputation and trustworthiness on the line;
(C) They need to be in a position to sell off their tangibly worthless investment to someone else to at least get something back before the cat's out of the bag.

When it does fail they will blame it on anything but the idea being impractical from an engineering point of view.
And they'll boast (perhaps rightly) about their great beamforming technology and production electronics etc, and how it was "ahead of it's time" 
I give it another year, tops.
If they are the least bit smart the would have already been spinning off some niche tech from it for other applications. Just like SolarRoadways will have to do, and make into fancy pavements or something, because the whole road concept was flawed to begin with.

[EEVblog]

The important difference is easy to define: one is legal, one is illegal.

Reminds me of pyramid schemes. Once they became illegal they simply make a few legal tweaks and renamed it multilevel marketing.

[B.B.Bubby]

So, she's a great social engineer.

Engineering is engineering - she's just from a different discipline

If i could sucker a VC out of millions I would.

Why the hate? 

[Howardlong]

Remember VC funding isn't just from over rich individuals, it also comes from other places like our pension pots, so when this fails the likes of you and me lose out too.

But perhaps more simply, it's a scam, and nobody likes being scammed.

Social engineering is all about scamming and fraud. Real engineering is not.

But I agree it is a form of social engineering in the end. While Meredith Perry might be charitably called naive, the VC types such as here http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2014/10/30/the-audacious-plan-to-make-electricity-as-easy-as-wifi/ are either knowingly misrepresenting or incompetent, and my money's on the former.

[LabSpokane]

So, she's a great social engineer.

Engineering is engineering - she's just from a different discipline

If i could sucker a VC out of millions I would.

Why the hate?

VCs aren't the suckers, we are. They are betting on getting out at the IPO - well before the flaws become publicly known. Howard is exactly correct about the pension funds and mutual funds etc being some of  the prime buyers of these stocks.

This whole mess really has become a form of legalized fraud. Nobody cares if the science pencils out.  Somebody should.

[EEVblog]

Why the hate?

Hating the impracticality of idea and product is not the same as hating the person, don't make the mistake of equating them.

And if you want to know why engineers aren't exactly sending her xmas cards, watch this, she doesn't have kind things to say about us:

[zapta]

And if you want to know why engineers aren't exactly sending her xmas cards, watch this, she doesn't have kind things to say about us:

She says at the end of that video 'never give up'. Let's see if she will dedicate the rest of her life to this failing idea.  I say 2-3 years at most and then she will give another talk about how other people failed her.

[fcb]

I can't see any reason it won't work (in theory) - phased array transmitter following the receiving device around. Simple...

Of course, it will be potentially dangerous and harmful if you get in the way of the beam, the overshoot of the beam or even a reflection of the beam, but one assumes they figured that out already.

And you'll need something built into or attached to your phone/device. Much like (wildly successful) inductive charging.. But clearly not a big hurdle for them to leap if they've worked out the other things.

Yup, I can see a bright future for this.

[Towger]

I can't see any reason it won't work (in theory) - phased array transmitter following the receiving device around. Simple...

From the online help of Borland Turbo C++ for DOS:

Code: [Select]

|sound, nosound|                     
  ________________
•sound turns the PC speaker on at the specified frequency
•nosound turns the PC speaker off

Declaration:
•void sound(unsigned frequency);
•void nosound(void);

Remarks:
•sound turns on the PC's speaker at a given frequency.
•nosound turns the speaker off after it has been turned on by a call to sound.
frequency specifies the frequency of the sound in hertz (cycles per second).
Return Value: None

Portability:
 + DOS + UNIX + ANSI C + C++ Only +
 | Yes |      |        |          |
 +-----+------+--------+----------+


See Also:

delay
Example (for both functions):


/* Emits a 7-Hz tone for 10 seconds.

      True story: 7 Hz is the resonant
      frequency of a chicken's skull cavity.
      This was determined empirically in
      Australia, where a new factory
      generating 7-Hz tones was located too
      close to a chicken ranch: When the
      factory started up, all the chickens
      died.

      Your PC may not be able to emit a 7-Hz tone. */

 #include

 int main(void)
 {
    sound(7);
    delay(10000);
    nosound();
    return 0;
 }

[Icarus]

I can't see any reason it won't work (in theory) - phased array transmitter following the receiving device around. Simple...

Of course, it will be potentially dangerous and harmful if you get in the way of the beam, the overshoot of the beam or even a reflection of the beam, but one assumes they figured that out already.

And you'll need something built into or attached to your phone/device. Much like (wildly successful) inductive charging.. But clearly not a big hurdle for them to leap if they've worked out the other things.

Yup, I can see a bright future for this.

There is also huge amount of attenuation as well
http://lookatmeimdanny.tumblr.com/post/101432017159/how-putting-10m-into-ubeam-illustrates-everything
Okay, by now we have been talked about what would happened if a body close to beam.
But there is also another issue; If you have a resonable powerful ultrasound beam travel through a thermoviscous fuild -such as Air- self-demodulation may occur.
LRAD uses this principle.

[fcb]

I never said it would be efficient..

[Howardlong]

The interesting thing is that the VC wankers who say the physics work don't give ANY documentary evidence that it does.

One individual, admittedly highly under qualified by dint of his physics degree and years of experience in ultrasonics in medical development, is dismissed by the VC, who then fails to give the details of his own "due diligence" other than do say it works.

The only reason the VC is bigging it up is so they can sell their soiled underwear to someone else before anyone smells it. Hopefully t'internet will reveal the truth before some unwitting souls are coerced into it.

[EEVblog]

The interesting thing is that the VC wankers who say the physics work don't give ANY documentary evidence that it does.

Of course they don't, they are technical geniuses who instinctively knew it will be practical 

The only reason the VC is bigging it up is so they can sell their soiled underwear to someone else before anyone smells it. Hopefully t'internet will reveal the truth before some unwitting souls are coerced into it.

Will be interesting to see if this one implodes, or just goes out with a whimper.

[fcb]

The interesting thing is that the VC wankers who say the physics work don't give ANY documentary evidence that it does.

One individual, admittedly highly under qualified by dint of his physics degree and years of experience in ultrasonics in medical development, is dismissed by the VC, who then fails to give the details of his own "due diligence" other than do say it works.

Why should the VC have to give details of their "due diligence" They aren't asking you to invest - it's a private matter.

The only reason the VC is bigging it up is so they can sell their soiled underwear to someone else before anyone smells it. Hopefully t'internet will reveal the truth before some unwitting souls are coerced into it.

That's a pretty cynical spin on things. But I get the sentiment.

As I've said earlier, I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work from a science POV - I can see many reasons why it won't work commercially in a 'wireless power of laptops and smart phones' application, but perhaps they have other applications in mind..

[B.B.Bubby]

Remember VC funding isn't just from over rich individuals, it also comes from other places like our pension pots, so when this fails the likes of you and me lose out too.

But perhaps more simply, it's a scam, and nobody likes being scammed.

Social engineering is all about scamming and fraud. Real engineering is not.

But I agree it is a form of social engineering in the end. While Meredith Perry might be charitably called naive, the VC types such as here http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2014/10/30/the-audacious-plan-to-make-electricity-as-easy-as-wifi/ are either knowingly misrepresenting or incompetent, and my money's on the former.

As the above post - it all comes down to due diligence. If the VC's don't practice this and would rather play a numbers game based on what idea / pie in the sky product is trending on twitter then fark them.

They need a lessen in economic Darwinism.

Once the current business model / practice the VC's use disappears, then maybe it'll be feasible to obtain funding without having to give up everything 

What are the current stats on VC funding success rates?   1 in 10  show a return?  no wonder they have to gouge and screw!!

I'm sure the good VC's have a better return rate than 1 in ten, but their rates are going to be set on the industry average.

While the dickwad VC's who do no research (other than social trends) continue to do business, well it kind of screws it up for everyone else.

Let Darwin do his job and screw them.    BTW, I do my own superannuation for this very reason     

(still got no money though    ) 

[Marco]

How are you supposed to make high Q ultrasonic transducers with an impedance close to air? AFAIK they don't exist.

[SteveyG]

How are you supposed to make high Q ultrasonic transducers with an impedance close to air? AFAIK they don't exist.

The trouble is, you're thinking linearly whereas you need to think exponentially. Only then will it become clear.

[EEVblog]

Why should the VC have to give details of their "due diligence" They aren't asking you to invest - it's a private matter.

When they write a public article supporting and spruiking the investment and going into systematic reasons to why it's a winner, then yes, they can expect criticism about the reasons they have published.
In this case, I think you can bet your bottom dollar that if they guy had real technical evidence to back his investment he certainly would have mentioned it.

As I've said earlier, I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work from a science POV - I can see many reasons why it won't work commercially in a 'wireless power of laptops and smart phones' application, but perhaps they have other applications in mind..

Bingo.
No one is saying it can't work, of course it can, that is demonstrably true.
It's just ridiculously impractical.

[zapta]

As I've said earlier, I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work from a science POV - I can see many reasons why it won't work commercially in a 'wireless power of laptops and smart phones' application, but perhaps they have other applications in mind..

Perhaps not. At the end of the TED video she mentioned charging an iPhone  so she definitely sets the expectations higher than just miniscule power.

She is full of it and the TED crowd claps for her. They used to have higher bar.

[rs20]

If i could sucker a VC out of millions I would.

Nice, real high standards you got there.

[Howardlong]

The interesting thing is that the VC wankers who say the physics work don't give ANY documentary evidence that it does.

One individual, admittedly highly under qualified by dint of his physics degree and years of experience in ultrasonics in medical development, is dismissed by the VC, who then fails to give the details of his own "due diligence" other than do say it works.

Why should the VC have to give details of their "due diligence" They aren't asking you to invest - it's a private matter.

They are bigging it up for three reasons. Firstly to make those who've actually put up the money behind the VC not feel like idiots; secondly so that they maximise the value when it comes to getting out at later funding stages for other unsuspecting investors; and thirdly to protect their perceived reputation and trustworthiness as a successful investor for future scams high potential opportunities.

After all, you're hardly going to say your investment is a turkey if your intention is to sell it on at a profit.

They are not interested in staying in for the longer term, only realising a profit from their investment in a flawed concept.

The only reason the VC is bigging it up is so they can sell their soiled underwear to someone else before anyone smells it. Hopefully t'internet will reveal the truth before some unwitting souls are coerced into it.

That's a pretty cynical spin on things. But I get the sentiment.

As I've said earlier, I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work from a science POV - I can see many reasons why it won't work commercially in a 'wireless power of laptops and smart phones' application, but perhaps they have other applications in mind..

We agree, it can work but not in practical terms, not by a long way. But their stated aim is to charge mobile devices such as cellphones and laptops.

The problem we have at the moment is that with low interest rates and mediocre performing stocks globally, there are plenty of people with money to invest in something that is perceived to be better performing. The parallels to the 2000 dot com bubble are worrying.

[LabSpokane]

The interesting thing is that the VC wankers who say the physics work don't give ANY documentary evidence that it does.

One individual, admittedly highly under qualified by dint of his physics degree and years of experience in ultrasonics in medical development, is dismissed by the VC, who then fails to give the details of his own "due diligence" other than do say it works.

Why should the VC have to give details of their "due diligence" They aren't asking you to invest - it's a private matter.

VCs are all there to cash out at the IPO. It's then a very public matter.  Whether Meredith can shuck and jive her tech to an IPO is an open question. 

Energy fraud in the form of sucker bet IPOs is becoming so rife that the SEC needs to establish due diligence practices akin to GAAP in accounting practices.

[B.B.Bubby]

If i could sucker a VC out of millions I would.

Nice, real high standards you got there.

I grew up watching Robin Hood whilst reading Karl Marx. Please excuse my standards.

[lincoln]

bock, bock, bock, bock, bock,

So who's going to take one for the forum and apply?   

[Poe]

Sorry for the necropost, but I feel this video goes well with this thread. 

[Brumby]

"I'll be the visionary and YOU do the things I come up with."

Good grief.

All hype, no substance, no responsibility, no ideas and no bloody idea.  I can't begin to describe how I feel about the above statement.

I want my 3¹/₂ minutes back.

[rs20]

Er, I assume you realise that video is a parody?

[Brumby]

(Well, that was embarrassing.)

When I look at it now, there were so many clues to that, that I'm shaking my head at myself - but I worked out why it happened.  Earlier that day I had been challenging someone over alternate energy in motor vehicles and this video just triggered a couple of points of irritation from that discussion.  Result: Inappropriate rant.




I think I'll go clean up my desk now.....