ALLPCB = PCBWAY??? yet another shell.

[wraper]

A bit of update on this topic. Last Saturday I got a call from pcbgogo at around 8:30 am while I was still sleeping after going to sleep very very late . Person asked why I write some shitty posts about them on eevblog  . I was certainly not fully awake and not prepared for the talk, especially in foreign language. But what I certainly remember person certainly said they have two factories. I did not ask where they are located but person repeatedly told they have two factories. Asked about PCBway, IIRC person said PCBgogo is Shenzhen office and PCBway is HK office. I forgot to ask about allpcb but after taking about 2 factories, I again have my doubts about how separated allpcb and the rest are.
Edit: my phone says that phone number is from Zhuhai, Guandong.

[ataradov]

Chinese companies are really bad at PR. Why do they think it matter how many factories they have? Sound like they have some issues in that department.

PS: mine is bigger and thicker

[wraper]

Also person several times repeated  they give coupons for reviews until I said something like "I have enough money to not give a fuck" (more politely).

[xaxaxa]

Promotion is one thing,  spamming of forums another. You don't need to resort to spam to promote your product/service. Why not to buy ads, for example? Of course, spam doesn't cost anything ...

I will disagree with this one and say I'd rather use a vendor that uses low-cost advertisement techniques as opposed to buying ads. why? because in the end *I* end up paying their ad bills, and let's just say I'd rather not contribute any money to the advertisement industry.

Simply promoting your product on a forum doesn't count as spam in my books, provided you aren't pretending to be an end user. When I see that a company buys ads, it makes me not want to use their services because I know my money is going towards advertisement rather than the product itself.

[janoc]

Simply promoting your product on a forum doesn't count as spam in my books, provided you aren't pretending to be an end user.

Which just so exactly happens to be the thing they are so famous for - they are actually paying people with discounts to post glowing reviews, the more high-profile the forum/website the better. I.e. you don't get (a lot of) coupons/points if you post on your personal blog, places like EEVBlog count for much more - you are supposed to post a link to your "review" and after it is checked you get your discount. Which can be significant - e.g. getting free shipping.

If that isn't encouraging spam, I don't know what is. Then I have seen outright spam from sock-puppet accounts on Reddit too.

So basically your presumed "non-contribution of money to the advertisement industry" helps with spoiling the experience for everyone. When you see a third, fourth, tens, twentieth "review" of PCBWay's boards, the shilling gets really annoying, turning a public forum into an advertising dump. And if you think your boards are going to be cheaper because the vendor spams instead of doing the marketing in more accepted ways - you are being incredibly naive ... 

Oh and by the way, PCBWay also buys significant amounts of "normal" ads through those advertisement networks too:
https://www.adbeat.com/free/advertiser/pcbway.com/pcbway.com

That pretty much throws your entire argument out of the window.


P.S.: Ads on a website can be also bought directly, there is no need to go through advertisement industry middlemen for that.

[noras]

It has been a long time since I've seen pcbway posts on eevblog, and so on. In fact, promotion are the same, every manufacturer just came out there will be a variety of ways to appear in front of everyone, so famous Apple is also a variety of advertising, spam.Sometimes I miss anson