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Offline cgroenTopic starter

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Ultrasonic cleaning and xtal ?
« on: November 13, 2018, 10:43:15 am »
I have a ultrasonic cleaner/bath and using Chemtronics fluid. I have heard some comments that cleaning with ultrasonic can have a negative impact on crystals and such?
Any experience regarding this ?

 

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Re: Ultrasonic cleaning and xtal ?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2018, 11:31:13 am »
Hi,

Have been cleaning boards with xtal (12mhz, rtc xtals) - seen no issues. There's a rumor that the xtal could be damaged if its frequency is close/same as ultrasonic cleaner (20-42kHz), but not sure about it and, afterwards, where do you find such an xtal?
 

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Re: Ultrasonic cleaning and xtal ?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2018, 04:20:45 pm »
Low power watch crystals are in that range (32768Hz).
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaning and xtal ?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2018, 04:35:33 pm »
I think the concern is with any mode that can resonate and loosen bonds.
 

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Re: Ultrasonic cleaning and xtal ?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2018, 05:09:49 pm »
Thanks for replies!
Have any here actually seen this, or have you only heard about it ?
 

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Re: Ultrasonic cleaning and xtal ?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2018, 06:21:03 pm »
Only anecdotal evidence. I've been cleaning boards with 32 kHz Xtals for some time and I have never seen a failure. But this obviously does not mean that there was no subtle damage that may become evident later.

I have never seen actual evidence of the damage actually provably happening.
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Re: Ultrasonic cleaning and xtal ?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2018, 08:02:49 pm »
I had failure (component out of spec) for a 26MHz crystal. Spec was 20ppm initial accuracy over standard temperature range (-10 to 50C), assembled product had 40ppm. We traced it to the ultra sonic cleaning process. Moved to standard washing, and everything was alright.
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