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Offline Alex Eisenhut

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My first PACE ADS200 victim
« on: Yesterday at 09:29:10 am »
Well, like a big dummy I decided to test this Russian aluminum flux by trying to flow SnPb on the bottom of a coke can...

I used my 5/16 Ultra Performance tip at 700F, put a puddle of flux on the can, waited a bit for the bubbles to start, then put the iron and the solder in the puddle.

Well, good news, the solder flowed on a Canada Dry Ginger Ale (100% natural flavour (with the "u"), 355mL) can... but now my lovely tip is crusty and black. No amount of sponging, brassing, or Multicore TTC-1 Tip Tinner Cleanering is fixing it.

So kids, be careful; if your Ginger Ale can needs soldering, try something else than 15$ soldering iron ips.
 

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Re: My first PACE ADS200 victim
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 06:27:50 pm »
So, the flux works as advertised -- you were able to solder aluminium cans?

I'm a bit confused, did you solder a coke can, or a 100% natural flavour Canada Dry Ginger Ale can? Anyway, please share photos of the can!

PS I have same flux, but haven't used it yet (And, probably, I will not).
 

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Re: My first PACE ADS200 victim
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 09:41:41 pm »
Sorry, I threw the can out. Here's the thing, I soldered to aluminum foil first with the Hakko, its tip didn't turn black.

But after ten minutes of rubbing the PACE tip on 0000 steel wool, it's 90% usable again.   :phew:

 

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Re: My first PACE ADS200 victim
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 09:51:58 pm »
I once destroyed the plating on some cheap tips by trying to solder to aluminium.  This was under puddles of straight rosin flux. I assumed the aluminium had alloyed into the tip.

http://halestrom.net/darksleep/blog/015_aluminium_silicon_pcb/

Be warned about abrading your tip: tips are usually plated with something that lasts longer than the (often copper) body material.  You'll get performance out of your cleaned tip, but it probably won't last as long, so treat it nicely

N.B. there are solder mixes specifically for aluminium.  The one I saw once was a weird ratio of lead and tin.  Not sure what's in the lead free camp for this.
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Re: My first PACE ADS200 victim
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 10:04:56 pm »
Yup, but 0000 steel wool is very fine. I think the plating is OK, maybe it's 4.5 mils instead of 5 now.
 

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Re: My first PACE ADS200 victim
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 10:31:12 pm »
To solder on Aluminium, do it under a big drop of motor oil. No fancy flux required.  :-+
Probably cooking oil will work too. The idea is to block the Oxygen from air to come in contact with the Al and form oxides at the soldering point. Oil can keep the Oxygen away.

NOTE: Cover the soldering tip in Al foil before soldering, or else the tip will never be the same.

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Re: My first PACE ADS200 victim
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 11:51:57 pm »
To solder on Aluminium, do it under a big drop of motor oil. No fancy flux required.  :-+
Probably cooking oil will work too. The idea is to block the Oxygen from air to come in contact with the Al and form oxides at the soldering point. Oil can keep the Oxygen away.

NOTE: Cover the soldering tip in Al foil before soldering, or else the tip will never be the same.

This guy solders, listen to him :-+, when I've first witnessed this trick of an old ham that was making cases, my eyes were almost popping out, I've never thought it's possible. At the time there were no Metacals and hi-tech stuff, just a big ass iron and some clear mineral oil (don't use the aditiveated motor oil, it will make a bad surface).

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