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Offline coppice

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Re: Electronics Manufacture in the Far East
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2018, 03:05:00 pm »
…..i particularly remember he showed me one picture of a restaurant meal with the Far Eastern Asian company’s staff….many of the  Far East Asian staff were very  young looking girls, dressed not really in a business like fashion.
So can anyone spread more  light on such un-edifying activity  in the Far East…at the behest of the Western Corporations?

This is not unusual. In all (Asian) factories that I was working, it was not possible to see older working person. Almost complete stuff was under 30 years. Dress code is different there, same as male/female relationship, and it is not unusual to see girl (that is not a prostitute) in very short dress, visible panties.
When there is rapid growth in an industry the average age of the workforce is usually quite low. In the 70s, when electronics was growing rapidly in Europe and America, the average age of people in western electronics companies was not a lot different from what you see in many Asian plants now. In the last 10 years the average age in Chinese plants has crept up a bit, as their industry has started to mature.

Generally young women dress in a way that reflects how safe they feel. In a warm place like Singapore, where assaults on women are rare, its hard to tell the office workers from the hookers in the downtown area. This confuses many westerners, but its just the local way. Its rather like the odd conclusion that many westerners come to that Asia is full of lesbians, because so many young women walk around town holding hands.  ;) Even in factories, where people don't generally dress as smartly, in a hot climate a woman won't be wearing a great deal if she feels safe.
 
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Re: Electronics Manufacture in the Far East
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2018, 11:02:30 am »
Hello,
Our company imports vast amounts of Chinese designed/manufactured lighting products and “middle-man’s”  them on to western markets. We have a ‘token’  design/manufacture base in UK which kind of “oils the wheels”, shall we say, for this operation. (I'm not knocking the token products....they are pretty cute, and in truth, on a cost/performance/functionality basis, they are very  very good and very often just what the customers want.)

Though this behaviour by virtually all UK companys  undoubtedly means that ultimately the UK will totally stagnate and passage into being a third world country, (   https://massey276.wixsite.com/ukdecline   ) you can clearly see why  UK companys  find this modus operandi very difficult to avoid… because there are now very few engineers left in UK, and schools are simply not adequately trying to address the engineering staff short-fall. –The following necessary measures are not being carried out…( https://massey276.wixsite.com/letter ) There is also the situation of trying to make UK designed products cost competitive with stuff that is simply bought in from the Far East....at a price set by the Far East,  which is so cheap that it is  low enough to encourage total "knock-out" of western product design capability.....ultimately rendering the west a dependent customer.

There  is also the situation of  Far East Asian girls being tragically bred into prostitution, so as to satisfy the  revolting  sexual   desires   of Western business visitors, who visit the Far East on the premise that they need to “check out” the factory. How they can believe that whatever Far East Asian factory they get shown round is really the one where their products will really be designed/made is beyond me…….in truth, it is virtually certainly just a stooge setup, to fool western  visitors. The real factory is probably some horrendous sweat-shop that Western eyes never see.

Anyway, our engineer was just in the middle of  finishing up some important testing in some of our “token”  UK products, when they took him off this job, because for whatever reason, they were concerned that he may up and leave after completing this work. The company  now appear to be pretending that the engineer must design a switch mode power supply based LED driver. This seems to me to be almost certainly a fake job, invented to try and fool the engineer into believing that there is some juicy work to be getting on with, and no doubt an attempt to scupper his leave plans, having prevented him from finishing the work he was doing on the ‘token’  products.
I really cannot believe that a company that makes the vast bulk of its money from “middle-manning” Far East Asian lighting products into the UK suddenly wants to start designing stuff. Only a month ago they told the engineer that there was no development work to be done. Every time a Switch Mode design was presented, it was simply rejected on the basis of being too expensive.
The crucial point is, how much money can be made in importing Far East Asian lighting products into UK? What is the EU Tariff on such imports? I am aware that UK companys don’t pay the tariff because the EU customs guys don’t come to mainland UK. Does anyone know what kind of  profit gets skimmed off of an order for say 1000 T8 LED tubes from the  Far East , say?

Its necesary to find out the details before our repective western countries totally stagnate, and in the case of the UK, feverishly filling its boots with Far East Asian stuff, and becoming a Third world country within a decade.
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I am sure China imports to the EU have to pay VAT at 20% plus some extra amount. As such, i do not know the total tariff for China to the EU?

Does anyone know.
Currently, British Electronics companies set up "token" manufacture lines....producing "token" products. This is so that they can declare themselves as a manufacturer...these British companies then import Electronics stuff from China, and dont pay the EU tariff....they then pretend that these goods are "made in UK"...and then sell them on to many other EU countries.....these EU countires then conveniently dont have to pay a tariff as UK is currently in the EU..( but not for long).
Its easy to do this from the UK as our ports are off the EU mainland and are difficult for the EU customs to scrutinise.

..This will all end when UK leaves the EU in march 2019, because UK will not be in the EU.

..Even if the UK stays in the EU, this business will end anyway, because the EU are going to ensure that its clamped down upon. For a start, the EU have arranged for a rail route direct from China to Germany (or near Germany) …….any products coming to the EU from china will be easy for the EU to monitor via this route…..any other products coming to the EU from china, eg by ship, will be severely scrutinised. The EU have already ensured that many of the European mainland ports have been closed down to Chinese imports…..the net is closing in…China imports on which the EU tariff has not been payed will not be possible after March 2019….not in any significant volume anyway.

The problem is that this “token” electronics industry in UK, is the only electronics industry left in UK……. And when march 2019 comes, this industry will vanish overnight.

This will leave the UK in a parlous state. The people that ran these industries will simply depart the UK.
Please send this to your MP if you are a Brit, and please heed this if you are not…..it could be your country next….look what happened to Greece.

https://massey276.wixsite.com/letter

I predict total collapse of UK to the third world within a decade. Before that, there will be total disorder, with possibly American troops coming in and sort it out as best they can.
 
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Re: Electronics Manufacture in the Far East
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2018, 11:40:46 pm »
I predict total collapse of UK to the third world within a decade. Before that, there will be total disorder, with possibly American troops coming in and sort it out as best they can.

Huh? That's crazy talk. I think you've totally lost the plot!

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Re: Electronics Manufacture in the Far East
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2018, 11:48:35 pm »
there will be total disorder, with possibly American troops coming in and sort it out as best they can.

I think it should be French troops sorting things out. That would be so much more fun.
 
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Re: Electronics Manufacture in the Far East
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2018, 05:54:15 am »
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Huh? That's crazy talk. I think you've totally lost the plot!
unfortunately, whether or not i have lost it, is now irrelevant...the damage has been done...here...
https://massey276.wixsite.com/ukdecline
 


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