First boards from ALLPCB.COM - Postive expereince.

[mrpackethead]

I just received my first shipment of PCB's from allpcb.com today.. THey are 4 layer ENIG..  These where made in teh Hqpcb fab.    I designed them to a 6/6 spacing with .3mm minimum vias.    I ordered 10 panels and they delivered. All have been

No problem with silk screens or masks they are all nicely routed and v-scored as per my gerbers.. All teh fiducals where produced as per design. 

These are as good as the other low cost fabs in china but have come in significnatly lower cost.  I'm not sure how they make a living ,but i'll take the savings. They were slihtly slower ( 2-3 days ) in getting to me than what i've had previously but for somethiing i'm not in a rush for that was ok.
 

[hcglitte]

Could you post a picture of the board? And what price did you get, and shipping cost?

HC

[mrpackethead]

Was $USD159 including freight to New Zealand and this included a stainless steel laser/electroformed stencil/

[amitchell]

Good to know, I was waiting for your review post you had mentioned in another thread. I will be trying a 5/5 .25mm 4 layer ENIG with HQPCB soon.

[hcglitte]

Thanks! What is the dimension of the panel?

[mrpackethead]

Good to know, I was waiting for your review post you had mentioned in another thread. I will be trying a 5/5 .25mm 4 layer ENIG with HQPCB soon.

Congrads on teh scope winl.

[mrpackethead]

Panel is about this much by that much.. Lol..  Go and check it out for your self.

http://www.allpcb.com/?code=G4

[amitchell]

Good to know, I was waiting for your review post you had mentioned in another thread. I will be trying a 5/5 .25mm 4 layer ENIG with HQPCB soon.

Congrads on teh scope winl.

Thanks!

[jmsigler]

Did you get HQ's stackup? I tried asking myself for the 6 layer, but I got a weird excel file that looked like it was missing values.

[Dave_PT]

From my side, so far, it is a negative experience.

Huge delay in production and huge delay in shipping.
Supposedly since February 18 that the PCBs are ready. The package was only received at the post office on February 24 and since March 1 that is waiting for shipment from HK ... 6 days have passed!

The service is a little cheaper ... but it did not pay the unexplained waiting time ...

Maybe for +5USD I would have PCBs in my house.

[richardlawson1489]

The prices are comparatively less. I don't have any personal experience with them.

[mrpackethead]

Out of curiousity what delivery service did you choose?  The Postal service one or DHL?

The postal services are notoriously slow.     But the price difference between that and DHL only is a few dollars in most cases.

From my side, so far, it is a negative experience.

Huge delay in production and huge delay in shipping.
Supposedly since February 18 that the PCBs are ready. The package was only received at the post office on February 24 and since March 1 that is waiting for shipment from HK ... 6 days have passed!

The service is a little cheaper ... but it did not pay the unexplained waiting time ...

Maybe for +5USD I would have PCBs in my house.

[Dave_PT]

I chose the normal postal service.

For example, in Portugal I would have to pay this:
~ 15USD - manufacture of PCB's
~ 24USD - shipping via DHL
Total = 36.83 € - the value is higher than 22 €, so I will pay +23% VAT if the package goes to the customs. For DHL to get the package to customs, I have to pay more ~30 €.

The total of the order would be: 75 € ~ 79USD.
It does not compensate use DHL service.

But I use a lot dirtypcb's and they are super fast either in manufacturing or in shipping (I do not know how they manage it, but I get the package in 2 weeks).

[Koen]

Ordered 50 6-layers ENIG 100x90mm panels (0.2/0.2 tracks, 0.3/0.6 vias) for 240 USD + 8 different mechanically complex 2-layer boards from HQPCB. Production was on-time. Shipped Saturday, received Monday at 11am (DHL to Belgium). Everything was well produced, well packed, received nearly double the quantity ordered on all the 2-layers. Della speaks english very well which was awesome to explain these mechanically special boards and ensure they weren't wrongly edited. Stoked so far.

[mrpackethead]

Ordered 50 6-layers ENIG 100x90mm panels (0.2/0.2 tracks, 0.3/0.6 vias) for 240 USD + 8 different mechanically complex 2-layer boards from HQPCB. Production was on-time. Shipped Saturday, received Monday at 11am (DHL to Belgium). Everything was well produced, well packed, received nearly double the quantity ordered on all the 2-layers. Della speaks english very well which was awesome to explain these mechanically special boards and ensure they weren't wrongly edited. Stoked so far.

Are  you buying direct from Hqpcb or did you use Allpcb?   I'm wrapped with teh service that i'm getting from 'Erin' who also speaks great english is quick to respond.. And they are good at picking up on things that might causes problems or things that are a little unusal.     I'm impressed with how through they are. I've got four more boards to send to them this week.

[Koen]

Through AllPCB. I've now noticed I also received 61 6-layers boards instead of 50.

[poorchava]

Ordered 50 6-layers ENIG 100x90mm panels (0.2/0.2 tracks, 0.3/0.6 vias) for 240 USD + 8 different mechanically complex 2-layer boards from HQPCB. Production was on-time. Shipped Saturday, received Monday at 11am (DHL to Belgium). Everything was well produced, well packed, received nearly double the quantity ordered on all the 2-layers. Della speaks english very well which was awesome to explain these mechanically special boards and ensure they weren't wrongly edited. Stoked so far.

Do they have an english website? I can't seem to find any button to change the language.

[mrpackethead]

Do they have an english website? I can't seem to find any button to change the language.

Order them through allpcb.com and you'll be able to select HQPCb ( or any other )

heres teh link https://t.co/UZLXIdLpql

[technotronix]

Through AllPCB. I've now noticed I also received 61 6-layers boards instead of 50.

How is this possible? Payment received for 50 or 61? Have you communicated with them about this?

[Koen]

I ordered and paid 50, I received 61.

[langwadt]

Through AllPCB. I've now noticed I also received 61 6-layers boards instead of 50.

How is this possible? Payment received for 50 or 61? Have you communicated with them about this?

common you pay for and will get atleast what you order, but they have to make extras to be sure in case some
of them have flaws, if they all work they might as well ship them instead of throwing them out

[48X24X48X]

A frequent HQPCB customer here for prototypes, ordered directly from them. The price on allpcb.com seems to be slightly cheaper compare to ordering them directly.
But, that is before you add the shipping charges. It seems that they make money from the shipping charges.

[Kean]

Erin is so professional. She helped me with my PCB orders a lot. ALLPCB offers good customer sevice. 

I am unimpressed by Erin spamming me via email and Twitter.  So for the moment I refuse to deal with them. 
Tomas007 seems to be an AllPCB shill account - check out his/her post history.  I wouldn't be surpised if it was Erin.
Fastech PCB are also massive spammers, and on my black list along with a few others.

So I am using PCBzone in NZ for now - reasonable pricing for non-China manufacture, and a very fast prototype service available.
I ordered yesterday some 4-layer with 1-day turn, and they apparently shipped by DHL this morning - a little over 24 hours later.
Not a shill, a real customer based on a EEV Dave recommendation. 

[mrpackethead]

Funny i've tryed to use PCBZone ( and i'm in NZ ) and its never really been an economic proposition.. One of the issues is lack of solder stencils.

Funny to told Erin to back off on the emails..  Shes just super keen to help,  we all hate spam but just don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

[Kean]

Funny i've tryed to use PCBZone ( and i'm in NZ ) and its never really been an economic proposition.. One of the issues is lack of solder stencils.

Hmmm... they offer stencils these days, but it depends on what exactly you want.  I'm currently using OSHStencils Polyimide stencils where possible for prototypes, as I was building up a huge collection of stainless ones that were taking up space - especially the production or framed ones, which tend to be huge and/or bulky.

Funny to told Erin to back off on the emails..  Shes just super keen to help,  we all hate spam but just don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

I did say "for the moment".  I did tell Erin I wasn't impressed, and she did apologise and pointed to my involvement in this forum as why she reached out.  I will have to see how they continue, but I just won't do business with companies that are unethical (e.g. Fastech PCB mass spamming with fake senders), or continue bad/dishonest behaviour after it being pointed out.