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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #700 on: June 26, 2017, 11:19:46 pm »

The camera only accepts small components, can not put QFP144?
If the software was any good it should be able to deal with this by imaging multiple times & moving the part over the camera.
But we're talking Chinese software so maybe not.
You also need pretty high angular resolution to place QFP144s, which the hardware may or may not have, but still no excuse for not handling larger parts sensibly.

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #701 on: June 27, 2017, 01:27:12 am »
for vision someone should try if installing a directX filter is possible.
If it's possible, then it is no problem avoiding false recognition on some type of parts, otherwise only better lightning could resolve things like false angle of sot23.
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #702 on: June 27, 2017, 04:53:09 am »
The camera only accepts small components, can not put QFP144?

Largest I have is a  80-Pin TQFP and that pretty much fills the vision screen. So I wonder if the PnP vision can handle larger parts.

Additionally, the placement is not so good. Sometimes the PnP is half pin off.

What experience you have with TQFP or similar? I use the 505 nozzle for that, but somehow the 505 can't be automatically adjusted (I guess the whole size is too big for the vision). Qihe ask me to adjust manually, but I see no function for that - and their Chinglish manual is hard to read.

BTW, latest software is English802B-V2.36 - will update mine soon. SOT23 issue not fixed yet.

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #703 on: June 27, 2017, 08:08:58 am »
for vision someone should try if installing a directX filter is possible.
If it's possible, then it is no problem avoiding false recognition on some type of parts, otherwise only better lightning could resolve things like false angle of sot23.
SOT23s are inherently different from other parts, as the pin grid is not rectangular. With most parts all you need is to identify the perimeter of all the pins to get the position and rotation, but for a SOT23 you need to identify each pin seperately. Lighting can be an issue as it is less critical when you just want to identify the overall outline.
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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #704 on: June 27, 2017, 04:52:05 pm »
 
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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #705 on: July 01, 2017, 12:00:56 am »
BTW, latest software is English802B-V2.36 - will update mine soon. SOT23 issue not fixed yet.

I updated to V2.36 and don't notice any difference. Is there a change log?
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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #706 on: July 17, 2017, 05:17:44 am »
Anybody else got a virus alert from sucfaceMount.exe?

Avira gave me a TR/Confuser.56b259 warning.

Anything to worry?

PS: No, I did spell the filename correctly ;-)
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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #707 on: July 17, 2017, 05:27:55 am »
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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #708 on: July 17, 2017, 08:54:03 pm »
...How do you get the pin to travel far enough on these larger reals? For examples, in L21 I have inductors that need twice the amount of tape movement as compared to L1 to have components lined up correctly for pickup.

go to the setup menu where you enter the XY coordinates of each feeder, there is a selection "Feed" where you can set the prick's travel distance.
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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #709 on: August 01, 2017, 09:26:58 am »
Does anyone have the vibration feeder for ic stiks? Captures of the appearance?
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #710 on: August 25, 2017, 09:41:30 pm »
I purchased a vibration feeder from the manufacturer, it works properly.

https://youtu.be/pvL5D8sqK1w
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #711 on: August 31, 2017, 07:56:37 pm »
I´m installing a new computer with Win7, first works ok but slow OS. I have reinstalled the OS for cleanup and now the surfacemount program does not start, stop working in start. I tried with another computer and it happens to me the same, I tried with another compilation of win7 and it happens the same. The program works for me in old installations of win7 but if I do new installation of OS no longer works, does anyone else? Does anyone know the solution?
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #712 on: September 01, 2017, 06:33:23 pm »
Solved after install microsoft visual c++ 2010 redistributable package  :phew:
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #713 on: September 22, 2017, 04:01:36 am »
hi, don't worry about.
this is not real virus .
it's because of the encrypted of .exe 
and antivirus mistake for virus . so don't worry about it.

 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #714 on: September 22, 2017, 04:09:51 am »
there is a file named "802-V2.xx Software Update Log.doc"
this is the log , tell us what's new of this new software. and what we do in this new sofware.
but attention please , when you updata from some old versions , you must browse the log . bacause you should chage some data
if not change , the machine will not working normal.
so it's important to browse this log , before updata to new version.    :) :) :)
the newest one is 2.37. (to be the 2.0 verions)

in fact the newest one is 3.03 but not support old machine . (the newest machine have updata the hardware.)
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #715 on: September 25, 2017, 12:45:58 pm »
there is a file named "802-V2.xx Software Update Log.doc"
this is the log , tell us what's new of this new software. and what we do in this new sofware.
but attention please , when you updata from some old versions , you must browse the log . bacause you should chage some data
if not change , the machine will not working normal.
so it's important to browse this log , before updata to new version.    :) :) :)
the newest one is 2.37. (to be the 2.0 verions)

in fact the newest one is 3.03 but not support old machine . (the newest machine have updata the hardware.)
Hi qihe_kim,
Please tell me where I can get the latest stable version of software? I'm your customer and I use TVM802B. My current software has version 2.35. Is there any subscription list or page where I can check the new software versions?
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #716 on: September 25, 2017, 12:49:00 pm »
I purchased a vibration feeder from the manufacturer, it works properly.

https://youtu.be/pvL5D8sqK1w
Is this actual machine placement speed shown or your video had been accelerated?
I have tvm802b and even using 100% speed it doesn't move so fast.
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #717 on: September 26, 2017, 02:53:36 am »
you could email  to our after sales ,and show your SN number
and tell him what's the software version now.
want to updata to the newest software.
email:   after_sale1@qihekj.com :) :) :) :)
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #718 on: September 26, 2017, 07:06:56 am »
you could email  to our after sales

...a webpage with a link to the software, plus a changelog would be a good, professional idea, no?
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Adjusting focus on up camera
« Reply #719 on: September 26, 2017, 03:01:45 pm »
Does anyone have experience adjusting focus of the up camera on the TVM802?
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #720 on: September 27, 2017, 11:42:46 am »
Just recieved the new software version but I have following issue. The program easily doesn't work  :)
I can see only this picture. Microsoft visual c++ 2010 redistributable and the latest Net framework already installed. Version 2.35 started before without any issues.
Any thoughts?)
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #721 on: September 28, 2017, 01:56:02 am »
hi, copy the detial  in to txt file , and the shis detial to us.
after_sale1@qihekj.com
we will reply you as soon as possbile.

 :)
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #722 on: October 06, 2017, 07:24:16 pm »
I purchased a vibration feeder from the manufacturer, it works properly.

https://youtu.be/pvL5D8sqK1w
Is this actual machine placement speed shown or your video had been accelerated?
I have tvm802b and even using 100% speed it doesn't move so fast.

No, this is slow (70%) i can work more fast, something you're not doing well.
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #723 on: October 06, 2017, 07:53:21 pm »
This video is in real speed at 100%, amount 2000 cph mixed vision and no vision.

https://youtu.be/yQW1T2a6ZD4
 

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Re: Pick and Place Machine TVM802A / TVM802B
« Reply #724 on: October 14, 2017, 12:21:14 am »
the machine in this video is MUCH faster than my 802 at 100%.
My 802 has this high speed only when moving for fiducial detection.
During normal PnP (100%) its much slower.

Any idea ?
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