Atmel ATF22V10C fails blank test with Genius G540 Programmer

[Sainttronics]

Have been banging my head off the wall these past few days.
I have been trying to program some Atmel ATF22V10C PLDs (2 different batches, as I though it was a device issue) with no luck.
Keep getting an error with the Blank Test.
Tried programming some Lattice GAL16V8 (old stock) and they program fine.
I'm using a USB Genius G540 programmer, as I lost the ISA card for my old trusty & crusty ALL-02 Universal Programmer that has never failed me.

Tried rewiring the PLCC-28 to DIP-24 socket as it thought it has something to do with the unconnected VCC & GND pins, no luck.
Tried a different manufacturer of the device and again no luck.

Was thinking that maybe I could edit the setup file for the device I could solve this problem.
Have tried my Google Fu, but it has failed me.
I can't seem to find anything on the STG file formats which I am assuming are the device setup files.

Anyone have any luck with this device on the G540?
I am using version V5.2 of the software for the G540, not sure if this is the most up to date version, as it has a date stamp of 2012.

[Bruce Abbott]

What do you get when you read them?

ATF PLDs need to be 'conditioned' before programming, by writing a blank pattern and erasing it twice. Here's how to do it according to the hed.chip programmer manual:-

    ATF16V8, ATF20V8, ATF22V10, ATF1500

    Atmel specifies that these PLD devices with FLASH memory technology have to be conditioned prior to initial programming (ATF1500: prior to every programming). This means that the whole device is completely programmed twice with 0, and erased again afterwards. Verifying errors can be ignored during conditioning. A JEDEC file suitable for conditioning is part of the software supplied with hed.chip. Example for ATF20V8:

        hedchip /ga20v8 /p/e conditio.jed ; program once

        hedchip /ga20v8 /p/e conditio.jed ; program twice

        hedchip /ga20v8 /e/v ; erase, blank check
 

 

[Sainttronics]

Thanks for the tip, I#ll give it a try and let you know how I got on.
Fingers crossed.

[Sainttronics]

Well after trying the condition.jed file and the steps as suggested. I did go to the HED web site and read their documents on these devices and tried a few other steps with no joy. I have gone off and ordered some National PLD's as its been suggested that these will work. For the little projects that I have, it may not be worth the effort.
Here are the screen shots from the G540 programmer software which show the before and after fuse map.

As I have some GAL16V8's that have tested and work with this programmer.
If the National devices don't work, I'll just use two GAL16V8's for the same purpose.

[Bruce Abbott]

Bummer, looks like it's not compatible.

Next week I will be ordering some ATF22V10CQZ's to try in my own programmer. This is  a "zero power" PLD that only draws 5uA static, ramping up to 40mA at 25MHz. Standard GAL22V10's draw up to 130mA continuously.

[Sainttronics]

I know that I'll be pulling more current with the National GAL's but for the prototype it's OK. I'm going to order a more professional programmer once I get confirmation that it will program a list of devices that I use. Then I can forget about this problem, and I'll put the G540 into my portable field kit.

Thanks for the assistance.