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Electronics => FPGA => Topic started by: BytesGuy on July 14, 2014, 07:37:57 pm
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10/8/15: This guide will also work for Windows 10 64-bit :-+
I recently scored a Spartan 3E Starter Board on eBay. So, thinking I was on to a winner as I used this board during my time at uni, I downloaded and installed Xilinx ISE WebPACK.
But the problem is, it barely works in 64-bit mode on Windows 8 :palm: The license manager and Project Navigator both just close when you try to open a file and PlanAhead only works in 32-bit mode.
Xilinx ISE does not officially support Windows 8 and it probably never will as Xilinx are focused on their new suite - Vivado. However, Vivado only works with 7 series devices and upwards, so no Spartan 3 or Spartan 6 FPGAs!
But all is not lost, here is how you can get ISE (64-bit) working on Windows 8.
Fixing Project Navigator, iMPACT and License Manager
Note: I am assuming you are using ISE 14.7 and have installed it to the default location
- Open the following directory: C:\Xilinx\14.7\ISE_DS\ISE\lib\nt64
- Find and rename libPortability.dll to libPortability.dll.orig
- Make a copy of libPortabilityNOSH.dll (copy and paste it to the same directory) and rename it libPortability.dll
- Copy libPortabilityNOSH.dll again, but this time navigate to C:\Xilinx\14.7\ISE_DS\common\lib\nt64 and paste it there
- In C:\Xilinx\14.7\ISE_DS\common\lib\nt64 Find and rename libPortability.dll to libPortability.dll.orig
- Rename libPortabilityNOSH.dll to libPortability.dll
Fixing PlanAhead not opening from 64-bit Project Navigator
PlanAhead will not open when you are running 64-bit Project Navigator (e.g. for I/O Pin Planning), it just displays the splash screen but never opens.
To fix it, we have to force PlanAhead to always run in 32-bit mode.
- Open C:\Xilinx\14.7\ISE_DS\PlanAhead\bin and rename rdiArgs.bat to rdiArgs.bat.orig
- Download the attached zip file
- Extract it. You should now have a file named rdiArgs.bat
- Copy the new rdiArgs.bat file to C:\Xilinx\14.7\ISE_DS\PlanAhead\bin
Now you should have a working ISE Design Suite on Windows 8 64-bit :-+
Hope this helps!
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I've never had anything but trouble when installing ISE. I've encountered these same problems in the past before I downgraded from Win8 to Win7 (probably one of the reasons I downgraded). I've had trouble again just last month with ISE 14.5 on Win7 where I can't get anything to load. I wonder if the failure here is a similar problem with the DLLs.
Instead of really looking into it, I just deleted all of the files (because the uninstall wouldn't even come up) and I downloaded the massive ISE files again. Now, I can't even get the install executable to run because it keeps crashing. So frustrating. |O
At least I have a version of ISE working on another machine.
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I've never had anything but trouble when installing ISE. I've encountered these same problems in the past before I downgraded from Win8 to Win7 (probably one of the reasons I downgraded). I've had trouble again just last month with ISE 14.5 on Win7 where I can't get anything to load. I wonder if the failure here is a similar problem with the DLLs.
Instead of really looking into it, I just deleted all of the files (because the uninstall wouldn't even come up) and I downloaded the massive ISE files again. Now, I can't even get the install executable to run because it keeps crashing. So frustrating. |O
At least I have a version of ISE working on another machine.
ISE is a bit of a beast >:D
It could have been that the download didn't totally finish, I had that problem before.
I'd suggest you download 14.7 in the split files (4 files of about 2GB), then you extract the first one (Xilinx_ISE_DS_14.7_1015_1-1.tar) and run the setup from inside there. It then asks you where the other 3 files are and checks their integrity. Takes a bit longer, but I have had more success that way.
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I'd suggest you download 14.7 in the split files (4 files of about 2GB), then you extract the first one (Xilinx_ISE_DS_14.7_1015_1-1.tar) and run the setup from inside there. It then asks you where the other 3 files are and checks their integrity. Takes a bit longer, but I have had more success that way.
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try. At least if it doesn't work, I don't have to download 6 GB to find out.
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I've never had anything but trouble when installing ISE. I've encountered these same problems in the past before I downgraded from Win8 to Win7 (probably one of the reasons I downgraded).
For the record, Xilinx has been pretty blunt about how ISE is not supported on Windows 8, and will never be supported on anything newer than Windows 7. ISE is officially deprecated, which of course is ridiculous because Vivado supports only Series 7 devices, and those of us still happily using Spartan 3AN and Spartan 6 and Virtex 4 see no reason to use Artix or whatever. Oh, that the smallest Artix devices are not available at all through distribution makes migrating to them rather impossible.
I've had trouble again just last month with ISE 14.5 on Win7 where I can't get anything to load. I wonder if the failure here is a similar problem with the DLLs.
For what it's worth, I have 14.7 working well in Windows 7-64, both on a Dell machine and in a VMWare VM on two Macs running 10.9.4.
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@Newbzors
Nice detective work :-+
I'm running ISE 14.7 on Linux Mint-17 x64 (Ununtu 14.4 based)
And my biggest challenge was to get PACE to work for CPLD's.
I just installed Quartus II 13.0sp1 (later ones (13.1+) doesn't support a lot of the older chips).
That installed quite easy in Mint-17 , but only until i had to use modelsim :--
Now i'd say Quartus & ISE are even in "linux magic to get them to function"
/Bingo
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I've never had anything but trouble when installing ISE. I've encountered these same problems in the past before I downgraded from Win8 to Win7 (probably one of the reasons I downgraded).
For the record, Xilinx has been pretty blunt about how ISE is not supported on Windows 8, and will never be supported on anything newer than Windows 7. ISE is officially deprecated, which of course is ridiculous because Vivado supports only Series 7 devices, and those of us still happily using Spartan 3AN and Spartan 6 and Virtex 4 see no reason to use Artix or whatever. Oh, that the smallest Artix devices are not available at all through distribution makes migrating to them rather impossible.
Agreed. I see no reason why they can't support Spartan devices in Vivado, they are still popular devices. If they don't do that, they could at least patch ISE for Windows 8, it wouldn't be hard for them as it 99% works.@Newbzors
Nice detective work :-+
I'm running ISE 14.7 on Linux Mint-17 x64 (Ununtu 14.4 based)
And my biggest challenge was to get PACE to work for CPLD's.
I just installed Quartus II 13.0sp1 (later ones (13.1+) doesn't support a lot of the older chips).
That installed quite easy in Mint-17 , but only until i had to use modelsim :--
Now i'd say Quartus & ISE are even in "linux magic to get them to function"
/Bingo
Could you run Windows 7 in a virtual machine (VirtualBox for example)? My laptop is a Mac, so for ISE I am using my Windows 7 virtual machine and it seems to run quite nicely.
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Could you run Windows 7 in a virtual machine (VirtualBox for example)? My laptop is a Mac, so for ISE I am using my Windows 7 virtual machine and it seems to run quite nicely.
I could but won't ....
After installing ISE for the 2'nd time on Linux (14.4 and no1 14.7), and having made notes of the process.
It's just 15min extra to get to work perfect , and no hazzle with usb access in Vbox or getting a win7.
Actually i think both programs run fine on a x64 Mint17 now.
/Bingo
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Could you run Windows 7 in a virtual machine (VirtualBox for example)? My laptop is a Mac, so for ISE I am using my Windows 7 virtual machine and it seems to run quite nicely.
I could but won't ....
After installing ISE for the 2'nd time on Linux (14.4 and no1 14.7), and having made notes of the process.
It's just 15min extra to get to work perfect , and no hazzle with usb access in Vbox or getting a win7.
Actually i think both programs run fine on a x64 Mint17 now.
/Bingo
That's pretty cool, any tips for Linux users? True about VirtualBox, I had problems with usb before. VMWare seems to be much better in that respect.
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Having to use ISE and planahead for university currently, this just saved me a lot of effort of having to get a windows 7 install.
Thank you.
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Not Windows 8 but...
I got Xilinx to send me a disc with the last install, and I was getting a lot of errors installing in Widows 7 professional 64 bits from the DVD.
I had to copy the DVD to the hard drive and install from there. I think the problem is that it times out when unzipping the files directly from the DVD drive.
At least it was nice of them to send me the DVD just for the asking
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Having to use ISE and planahead for university currently, this just saved me a lot of effort of having to get a windows 7 install.
Thank you.
Sorry, long time replying! Glad it helped. I too used it at uni (although comp sci, I did a module on FPGAs) and at the time I had to give up with win 8 and used 7. Good job I only use windows in a virtual machine on my mac or I would have been annoyed having to reinstall!
Not Windows 8 but...
I got Xilinx to send me a disc with the last install, and I was getting a lot of errors installing in Widows 7 professional 64 bits from the DVD.
I had to copy the DVD to the hard drive and install from there. I think the problem is that it times out when unzipping the files directly from the DVD drive.
At least it was nice of them to send me the DVD just for the asking
That's pretty cool. I didn't know they send out discs, might even request one myself. Is there a form to fill or something?
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hi thank you, i have the same problem with ise and plan ahead, and it's solved by using your method,
the problem then other tools like platform studio has the same issue, i suspect other tools has similar problem
could you please help me to solve that as well?
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Well, like others I too am using ISE for a University class and wanted to install it on my home PC for practice with a demo board I have. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that I ended up here (home sweet home :P ) to find the solution.
Something I would like to add though. I recently upgraded to windows 10 on my surface pro 3 and of course, I experienced the same problems with ISE that windows 8 users were having.
I can confirm that the steps from the OP fixed these problems.
Though, I haven't tested everything for windows 10, at least now I can add a source to my project without ISE crashing.
Thanks BytesGuy :-+
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Well, like others I too am using ISE for a University class and wanted to install it on my home PC for practice with a demo board I have. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that I ended up here (home sweet home :P ) to find the solution.
Something I would like to add though. I recently upgraded to windows 10 on my surface pro 3 and of course, I experienced the same problems with ISE that windows 8 users were having.
I can confirm that the steps from the OP fixed these problems.
Though, I haven't tested everything for windows 10, at least now I can add a source to my project without ISE crashing.
Thanks BytesGuy :-+
No problem! Glad I could help :)
Funny, I was just going to try this on Windows 10 today, so thanks for the feedback. It's a shame Xilinx doesn't support the older Spartans in their fancy new IDE, but where there's a will, there's a way :-+
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I don't know how you figured this out, but thanks so much. I was starting to think I might need to drop back to Windows 7 for some legacy code I needed to update.
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I know this post is old, but I recently ran into the same problem.
Here is another fix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttPbEcNjdo8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttPbEcNjdo8)
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Thanks for the fix. Original post worked will on Windows 10 64bit in a VM.
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Thank you.
Saved my day.
Indeed Xilinx should figure out how to support the smaller FPGAs without this kind of hassle.
Wonder how you figured it out ;D
Claus
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There’s a virtualized version of ISE 14.7 for Spartan 6 FPGAs for Windows 10 downloadable on the Xilinx website now:
https://forums.xilinx.com/t5/Xcell-Daily-Blog/Spartan-6-development-Windows-10-Upgrade-to-ISE-14-7-for-Spartan/ba-p/780272
I haven’t tried it though.
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It helps me a lot. Thanks for you sharing.
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hi thank you, i have the same problem with ise and plan ahead, and it's solved by using your method,
the problem then other tools like platform studio has the same issue, i suspect other tools has similar problem
could you please help me to solve that as well?
I am facing the same issue with Platform Studio. Please anyone help.
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Did you solve Xilinx Platform Studio problem ? I have a problem . When I click xilinx platform studio, xpsgui stops running. Please help me.
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I recently had a failed start up of ISE14.7 via VM after only what 4 months of not using it...
Tried a few things but ran across this on the main site when searching ise14.7:
https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/sw_manuals/xilinx14_7/ug1227-ise-vm-windows10.pdf (https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/sw_manuals/xilinx14_7/ug1227-ise-vm-windows10.pdf)
Page 5 I seen:
Known Issues
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The ISE Virtual Machine Does Not Have Internet Access Enabled
by Default
You can give Internet access to the ISE VM by upgrading the networking configuration. See
Enabling Full Networking in Chapter 6 for details.
Click link to page 20 near bottom to see how to fix this known issue.
Once i did that it worked again!
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Very very very helpful.
Good luck! :-+ :-+ :-+
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PSA: There seem to be two new issues in newer versions of W10.
During installation, it hangs around 92% when checking Webtalk. What worked for me, was to terminate webtalk32.dll (under the ISE setup app in Task Manager), wait a moment, then terminate webtalk.dll. Setup ends seemingly successfully at that point
And ISE is broken again in Windows 10, but luckily someone smarter than me figured out is was due to an interaction with the "fake" WSL network shares causing problems to the network shares enumeration. The fix is either to remove WSL (not an option for me) or patch a file
https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=95891&sid=7526ed0d6748614255e95d07bf38ce0b#p95891 (https://www.exxosforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=95891&sid=7526ed0d6748614255e95d07bf38ce0b#p95891)
User czietz patched libPortabilityNOSH.dll to always fail network shares enumeration and provided a fixed file (renamed to libPortability.dll, to solve the Smartheap problem already mentioned). I copied the patched files into both locations C:\Xilinx\14.7\ISE_DS\ISE\lib\nt64 and C:\Xilinx\14.7\ISE_DS\common\lib\nt64 and everything seems to work fine
Downloading a binary from a random forum is usually risky, but the patch is limited to a few bytes
0001AB30: BB 8B
0001AB31: 60 F8
0001AB32: 09 BB
0001AB33: 00 60
0001AB34: 00 09
0001AB35: 48 00
0001AB36: 8B 00
0001AB37: CB 48
0001AB39: F9 CB
0: 8b f8 mov edi,eax
2: bb 60 09 00 00 mov ebx,0x960
7: 48 cb rex.W retf
And if I interpreted the binary correctly, it simply returns early from a call, so pretty safe
Copying the file here, just in case. Hope it's ok with the original author
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Sorry to resurrect this old thread. We are working through the forced Windows 11 installs we are getting on new PC's at work now, and I've found this while digging on how to get ISE to work.
Downloading a binary from a random forum is usually risky, but the patch is limited to a few bytes
This does appear to work. But I'm not sure about the explanation below.
0001AB30: BB 8B
0001AB31: 60 F8
0001AB32: 09 BB
0001AB33: 00 60
0001AB34: 00 09
0001AB35: 48 00
0001AB36: 8B 00
0001AB37: CB 48
0001AB39: F9 CB
0: 8b f8 mov edi,eax
2: bb 60 09 00 00 mov ebx,0x960
7: 48 cb rex.W retf
And if I interpreted the binary correctly, it simply returns early from a call, so pretty safe
The above disassembly doesn't seem quite right.
First, here's the disassembly, based on defuse.ca's online disassembler, of the original libPortabilityNOSH.dll at offset 0x1ab30:
0: 8b f8 mov edi,eax
2: bb 60 09 00 00 mov ebx,0x960
7: 48 8b cb mov rcx,rbx
a: e8 45 04 05 00 call 0x50454
And here's the disassembly based on the attached DLL file:
0: bb 60 09 00 00 mov ebx,0x960
5: 48 8b cb mov rcx,rbx
8: 8b f9 mov edi,ecx
a: e8 45 04 05 00 call 0x50454
f: 48 8b f0 mov rsi,rax
Note that the call is a rel32 (32-bit offset). But the point here is that it doesn't return from the function early. It only changes the registers before calling whatever is at 0x50454.
The only difference here is that edi gets loaded with edx, rather than eax. Assuming the Microsoft x64 calling convention (this is a 64-bit DLL), the arguments are pushed RCX, RDX, R8, R9. RAX is non-volatile and is whatever is in the caller's state.
I'm not sure what this does, or how it does it. But it doesn't appear to return early.
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Ok, I've done some work and have a new version of the DLL that I think makes sense. And importantly, *it works!*
I ran the existing libportabilityNOSH.dll through Ghidra and decompiled things. The previous patch appears to bypass the code after a call to WNetOpenEnumA by manipulating the return value. This isn't clean, and seems to mess with arguments to the function immediately afterward (call to "new").
So, where the original patch did it's work was at file offset 0x1ab30. Based on the DLL headers, this maps to a load address offset of 0x1000, and the .text section starts at file offset 0x400. This means the address of the patched code is at a virtual offset of 0x1b730. A disassembly/decompiling of the code yields:
18001b729 8b ca MOV ECX,EDX
18001b72b e8 2a 04 CALL MPR.DLL::WNetOpenEnumA DWORD WNetOpenEnumA(DWORD dwScop
05 00
18001b730 8b f8 MOV EDI,EAX
18001b732 bb 60 09 MOV EBX,0x960
00 00
18001b737 48 8b cb MOV RCX,RBX
18001b73a e8 45 04 CALL MSVCR90.DLL::operator_new void * operator_new(__uint64 par
05 00
Note that the patch modified the code *after* the call to WNetOpenEnumA. But it did so in an odd way. The return value from WNetOpenEnumA is in EAX. The original code saves this in EDI, then sets up a call to "new". Here's what original patch does:
18001b729 8b ca MOV ECX,EDX
18001b72b e8 2a 04 CALL MPR.DLL::WNetOpenEnumA DWORD WNetOpenEnumA(DWORD dwScop
05 00
18001b730 bb 60 09 MOV EBX,0x960
00 00
18001b735 48 8b cb MOV RCX,RBX
18001b738 8b f9 MOV EDI,ECX
18001b73a e8 45 04 CALL MSVCR90.DLL::operator_new void * operator_new(__uint64 par
05 00
This effectively only tweaks the return value of WNetOpenEnumA. That is, it fails to store the return value of WNetOpenEnumA into the local stack frame, leading to the later checks to fail, bypassing much of the code. This works, but does not completely bypass the function call.
Instead, I have proposed the following 4 byte patch which does what was suggested in the earlier email. This patch returns earlier from the function, and fixes the checksum of the DLL. Here's the change:
18001b700 c3 RET
18001b701 90 NOP
That's it! And it works.
So, there are only 4 bytes in the entire file to change:
00000151 D1 54
00000152 0D 4B
0001AB01 40 C3
0001AB02 53 90
Attached is a bsdiff patch file. See this link (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1945075/how-do-i-create-binary-patches) for details on how to apply it to libPortabilityNOSH.dll.
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