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Offline NivagSwerdnaTopic starter

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Re: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2018, 02:45:42 pm »
Installed driver, in Windows Device Manager, on unknown device, from E:\altera\13.0sp1\quartus\drivers

DE2 CP_v2_0_3 works  :-+   (Had no luck with the CP distributed with the DE2 software... must be out of date w.r.t. Quartus II)
 

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Re: SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2018, 05:02:06 pm »
In case you get any strange functional effects/install problems with Altera's USB Blaster drivers, you can just install newer ones from higher versions of Quartus.  The earlier Quartus versions are able to use them.

Also, you can have more than 1 version of quartus installed on your PC as 1 time if it has a different base version #.  You may run one or the other at any time....
 
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Re: SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2018, 05:43:19 pm »
I've got to the connecting switches to LEDs with combinatorial logic in VHDL stage.... most of it is a mystery but it does seem to work so I'm much happier that my sold as seen DE2 board isn't a dud.   :-+
 

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Re: SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2018, 11:47:32 am »
I have one remaining issue....

Running qsys does not seem to work correctly... it produces errors saying it cannot interpret 13.0sp1 as a valid version number.  I presume this is because 13.0 is a number but 13.0sp1 isn't.

Is that something that can be tweaked?
 

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Re: ALMOST SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2018, 12:22:14 pm »
Do you get the IDE but cannot run qsys, or does the IDE not start?

Quartus 10.0sp1 needs The Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable Package (x86). Is it installed on your PC?
 

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Re: ALMOST SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2018, 01:08:15 pm »
Do you get the IDE but cannot run qsys, or does the IDE not start?

Quartus 10.0sp1 needs The Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable Package (x86). Is it installed on your PC?
QSYS (and Quartus) run happily.  I created a Clock Source OK but generating files as you save fails... with error about parsing version number.

A bit like... https://www.altera.com/support/support-resources/knowledge-base/solutions/rd03282013_47.html
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Re: ALMOST SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2018, 10:56:28 pm »
I replaced the memory in my PC today....

Quartus-web-13.0.1.232.iso                100% 690a295c697765efe95f7d62f1cea7ed

Unbelieveable... it now calculates checksums and can copy files OK!



 

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Re: ALMOST SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2018, 12:06:18 am »
One thing I just can't understand is why these FPGA packages are so much fucking bloatware and terribly wasteful. If they kept backward compatibility you could kind of understand, but they don't!

I know Dave keeps mocking his former employer Altium for trying to come up with a universal FPGA solution, I guess their heart was in the right place.
 

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Re: ALMOST SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2018, 07:02:12 pm »
One thing I just can't understand is why these FPGA packages are so much fucking bloatware and terribly wasteful. If they kept backward compatibility you could kind of understand, but they don't!

I know Dave keeps mocking his former employer Altium for trying to come up with a universal FPGA solution, I guess their heart was in the right place.

I'd understand if you'd have to design FPGA packaging that would deliver enough power to the required die areas, ensure documented timing, proper EMC and EMI performance, enough coupling, etc... So the pin compatibility would be the last thing you want to think about.
 

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Re: ALMOST SOLVED: Quartus II Web Edition 13.1 on Windows 10
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2018, 07:08:52 pm »
FPGAs themselves are incredibly complex, I don't know what all goes into the software but it may not be as wasteful and bloated as you think. These days it hardly matters though, my installation of ISE is about 11GB, on a 1TB drive that's nothing. I'm not a gamer but some of the recent games are around 100GB.
 


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