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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2012, 12:17:54 PM »
I dunno.  PI will benearly unique in that it has very good graphics capabilities, but ... if you want to teach/learn programming, it could be that "graphics" is a huge distraction...
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2012, 12:31:10 PM »
I have an ongoing project to connect a wireless weatherstation and  webcam which will be done under Linux.
The Raspberry Pi is the cheapest way I can do this so look forward to its release although I imagine that the first batch will be gone pretty quickly.
 

Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2012, 12:34:26 PM »
I dunno.  PI will benearly unique in that it has very good graphics capabilities, but ... if you want to teach/learn programming, it could be that "graphics" is a huge distraction...

If looking at the home computer era then graphics was a big motivation for kids to start programming. And the Raspberry PI (who comes up with these stupid names?), tries to recreate the success of the home computer era.
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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2012, 02:19:21 PM »
I dunno.  PI will benearly unique in that it has very good graphics capabilities, but ... if you want to teach/learn programming, it could be that "graphics" is a huge distraction...
Why would graphics be a distraction? Distraction from what exactly?

Computer graphics encompasses a whole range of programming topics, including problem solving, mathematics and advance algorithms.
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2012, 07:06:36 AM »
How are people meant to program these boards? If they are meant to be as easy to program as the old BBC computers where is the equivalent programming language? I've read that maybe it's python? Any thoughts?


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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2012, 10:32:51 AM »
How are people meant to program these boards? If they are meant to be as easy to program as the old BBC computers where is the equivalent programming language? I've read that maybe it's python? Any thoughts?

Basically, it's a linux machine. You can do whatever you want with it. Get a python interpreter on there and you can run python scrips. Write some C/C++/... and compile it. Or Java/Mono/... through a VM. Whatever you want. If you are really hardcore you can write your own peripheral kernel drivers. But I guess all the GPIO will be exposed in a more friendly fashion.
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2012, 10:35:11 AM »
BTW, any news on release date? Should be soon if I remember right (and if nothing went wrong). Also, since it gained so much popularity, I'm assuming it'll be on backorder forever.
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2012, 07:29:18 AM »
(Sorry about the triple post)

Some news - http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/615

Finished boards by 20.2., orders should start near the end of the month. They are making 10k for the first run, and limiting order to one per person, so there is some chance of getting one :)

Also, they released a datasheet for the SoC they are using, but just an abbreviated version. Should be enough for low level peripheral stuff. And I'm sure the full datasheet will leak soon.
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2012, 12:32:50 PM »
I really hope their website can cope with the influx of orders, because the whole site is just a mess. Their mailing list does not work, there is no RSS feed for news, the forum is terrible, and it looks  everything has been slapped together via Wordpress.
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2012, 12:36:44 PM »
I can't comment on the mailing list or the forum, but what's wrong with the RSS feed?
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2012, 04:09:36 PM »
I tried signing up to their mailing list, and it gave me a 404.

I can't find an RSS feed for the actual blog site. I know the forum has one, but i don't want my feed flooded with random forum threads.
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2012, 04:24:31 PM »
Anyone think this may kill the arduino?

This is in no sense an Arduino killer. In fact, it's not even in the same niche at all. The Raspberry Pi is more of a competitor to the BeagleBoard.
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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2012, 04:56:05 PM »
The RSS feed can be found at http://raspberrypi.org/feed . There's no RSS icon or text link, just a <link rel="alternate"> tag that shows up an "RSS" thing in some browsers.
 

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« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2012, 05:00:16 PM »
Much better, thanks. Interestingly, the RSS icon did not show on FF10. Weird.
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #65 on: February 29, 2012, 01:01:57 AM »
First time I'm glad I have to wake up at 6 am (CET, so 5am GMT) tomorrow, so I can be ready to order :)
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #66 on: March 01, 2012, 09:42:32 AM »
Im tempted to get one but i will wait for the rush to die down and the suppliers to bring there sites back up
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2012, 09:46:14 AM »
Can you load Ubuntu 12.10 onto a Rasberry Pi Model "B" that you don't have?
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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #68 on: March 01, 2012, 12:22:41 PM »
I don't know but u can load up a vm that has the same specs and try that. Mine comes in the mail next week

Not if you are going to buy it of element 14 buy the $38 one not the $50 cut down version
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2012, 01:15:23 PM »
Mine comes in the mail next week
Will wait to see if this realises. I see lots of orders but have not as yet seen anyone on the planet actually having a Pi in the postbox. And as always we poor schmucks in the antipodes will not rate high on the global delivery schedule.

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Not if you are going to buy it of element 14 buy the $38 one not the $50 cut down version
Don't both versions of the board have the $20 dollar E14 tax applied?
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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2012, 03:25:12 PM »
Mine comes in the mail next week
Will wait to see if this realises. I see lots of orders but have not as yet seen anyone on the planet actually having a Pi in the postbox. And as always we poor schmucks in the antipodes will not rate high on the global delivery schedule.

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Not if you are going to buy it of element 14 buy the $38 one not the $50 cut down version
Don't both versions of the board have the $20 dollar E14 tax applied?

I got confirmation email of expected delivery date of 5/3/2012 so I hope it is some time next week.  We pay gst so its $38 + gst delivered  It is an Australian distributor with Chinese manufacturer

O I apologize the $50 is the chip only no board is included
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #71 on: March 03, 2012, 01:31:31 AM »
Just noticed a credit card hit for $41.80 the cost of a Raspberry Pi which I ordered from Element 14.
Hope fully this indicates that the order has been filled? I've never ordered from Element 14 before so don't know what there billing practices are.

I'll find out soon, I hope.
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #72 on: March 03, 2012, 01:33:09 AM »
Generally they don't charge until they ship (so if your order is delivered from different warehouses over several days, you'll be charged for each shipment separately), but anything's possible!
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #73 on: March 03, 2012, 02:03:30 AM »
Just went and checked the order on the Element 14 website and it gives a status of back order  :(
 

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Re: Raspberry pi looks like a pretty good contendor against arduino
« Reply #74 on: March 03, 2012, 02:03:54 AM »
Is it a credit card charge? or a hold? I can't remember but generally they put a hold on the (total amount of) funds and then actually charge you a day or so after it ships. If they ship an order in multiple lots, they have an actual charge for each lot, and reduce the hold accordingly.

I've also got a *hold* for $41.80 on my card :)

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You will usually get an email with the ETA once they know when they'll get stock, and another invoice when it actually ships. Don't forget they only had 10,000 in the initial batch, with actual demand far far surpassing that :)
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