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Offline dannyf

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Re: Rose by any other name would smell as sweet
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2016, 12:23:05 pm »
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Certain search phrases that use to yield a boat load of good heady documentation on the subject, mostly AN's from manufacturers, now bring up forum questions and descriptions from non-engineering arduino people. It's almost like a virus :o

Seems to me you should blame your inability to use a search engine rather than people expressing their love for arduino.

Not an arduino user myself but I think their right to express should be defended.
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Re: Rose by any other name would smell as sweet
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2016, 12:58:08 pm »
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Certain search phrases that use to yield a boat load of good heady documentation on the subject, mostly AN's from manufacturers, now bring up forum questions and descriptions from non-engineering arduino people. It's almost like a virus :o

Seems to me you should blame your inability to use a search engine rather than people expressing their love for arduino.

Not an arduino user myself but I think their right to express should be defended.
No. When you are searching for a part number, and the first result is not the manufacturer's page, nor a supplier page, but Adafruit or Sparkfun or seed or whatever, that is just bad I'm afraid.

The sketch... I guess if it is called program or code, that would scare people away. Imagine like a linux web page, that is probably how electronics looks like for most people. Linux stuff is scary, I cannot stand on those pages for minutes. They use words that dont make sense.
 

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Re: Rose by any other name would smell as sweet
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2016, 01:23:31 pm »
10 DEFINE FLAWED $SYSTEM_A
20 UNDERSTAND FLAWED $SYSTEM_A POORLY
30 WRITE $ABSTRACTION_LAYER OVER $SYSTEM_A SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND $SYSTEM_A
40 IMPLEMENT $ABSTRACTION_LAYER POORLY
50 $SYSTEM_A = $SYSTEM_A + 1.00
60 GOTO 10
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Re: Rose by any other name would smell as sweet
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2016, 02:08:28 pm »
Not an arduino user myself but I think their right to express should be defended.
Nice to see you defend others rights to express opinions, except, of course, those you don't agree with :scared:
 

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Re: Rose by any other name would smell as sweet
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2016, 11:25:34 pm »
I'm mainly pissed at code monkeys who go and re-invent the wheel instead of improving on the already existing wheel because they can't be arsed to understand it.
If it's easier for them to reinvent the wheel rather than understand the documentation, maybe the documentation isn't that understandable.


 

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Re: Rose by any other name would smell as sweet
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2016, 01:37:58 am »
So as yet another self taught programmer, why is void not recommended for declaring a function, I picked up on hints searching around, mainly to do with the constructor, however no clear cut "Never do this" stuff,
 

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Re: Rose by any other name would smell as sweet
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2016, 04:28:54 am »
void is perfectly proper for declaring the return type of a function that returns nothing (in C/C++ at least that is).

My comment was about people who don't know the word "function" and instead use the word "void" as if "void" was the word "function".  Yes.  These people exist.
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Re: Rose by any other name would smell as sweet
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2016, 08:27:35 pm »
I want both a real IDE (with debugger of course) but still having simple APIs and examples to get started. I wish it[arduino] would grow a little more advanced while not forgetting its beginner-friendly roots.

Recently they've done just that:

Image of "visual micro" :
http://electronics360.globalspec.com/images/assets/146/6146/IHS-151125-ArduinoSoftwareTools_Figure_-_Visual_Micro_DebugScreen.docx.jpg

Article:

http://electronics360.globalspec.com/article/6146/arduino-goes-pro

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