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Offline rstoferTopic starter

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Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« on: August 16, 2016, 11:28:15 pm »
I just bought a couple of these USB -> Serial TTL cables for a project I am prototyping.  It just doesn't get any easier than this!

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12977

The IO lines are 3.3V so they will work with just about everything we're currently using and the VCC pin will supply some amount of 5V but I don't generally have a need for that.

I suppose everybody on the planet already knows about these but, just in case, I thought I would pass it along.  Absolutely zero installation under Win 10 but that may be because I use a bunch of USB attachments and the driver might have been known.

 

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2016, 12:04:18 am »
Just your everyday off-the-shelf FT232R in a plug. FTDI even make them themselves.
 
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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2016, 03:04:23 am »
That's exactly what it is.  Nothing super duper but I hadn't seen that form factor before.  I have  a number of alternatives but this one seems perfect for breadboarding.

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 03:09:40 am »
I've got a couple of these; switchable 3v3 / 5v
 

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 01:17:49 pm »
I've got a couple of these; switchable 3v3 / 5v

Did you measure the outputs ?
I had some of those CH430's , where the switch was changing the VC pin, but not the V(io)

Meaning i always had 5v on the output lines  :-- :--

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 01:31:00 pm »
All the USB-CH34x I own provide that jumper, allowing to switch the VCC pin of the CH34x itself, therefore the I/O are switched too.
 

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2016, 09:19:59 am »
I use those: http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/RPi.htm

Super simple and works with every mcu running on 3.3V.
 

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2016, 11:41:50 am »
a good source for such cables would be nokia data cables. Cut it open and you have all the wires you need.

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2016, 01:01:12 pm »
I'm a cheapskate. I mostly use ST-Links V2.1 snatched from ST Nucleo boards.
Also, the bottom board of a Witty Cloud.
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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2016, 03:08:25 pm »
If you are going to bite the bullet and buy a genuine FTDI cable, consider their TTL-232RG-VIP-WE cable.  It doesn't output power, but has a target Vdd connection that sets the logic levels anywhere between 1.8V and 5V.  Truly a universal cable, just add whatever connector you need.

If you need a power output and variable I/O levels you need to either start from a 3rd party FT232R breakout board or hack a FTDI PCB only module to isolate VccIO and feed it whatever I/O voltage level you need.  I believe the TTL-232R-5V-PCB and TTL-232R-3V3-PCB boards only difference is whether R3 or R4 on the revers ois populated with a zero ohm jumper.  If you remove it, the common point should be VccIO.

Ftdi cables here: http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBTTLSerial.htm

Sparkfun do a FTDI FT232R breakout board.  https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12731  Disable or remove S1, and VccIO is easily accessable.
 

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2016, 11:12:38 pm »
Does anybody know if this interface will work for the PIC under debian linux?
BTW,  here's another vendor
https://www.adafruit.com/product/954
 

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2016, 11:32:31 pm »
One of my customers went through FT232 based boards like a kid goes through a bag with candy so I needed a way more rugged solution than just a chip with bare wires and needed so many that I turned it into a product. It is based on a CP2103 and besides RX, TX, CTS and RTS UART signals it also has RS485 (for short range), a 3.3V 90mA output (or external 1.8V to 3.3V input) and it can be used as an NXP LPC1000/LPC2000 programmer. At 80 euro (ex. VAT but including EEVblog discount) it isn't cheap but so far none has failed even though some are hot-plugged all day long in a production line (which the FT323 based boards didn't survive even with 1k series resistors on rx/tx).
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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2016, 07:01:41 am »
Not cheap, but great cables: 

https://www.gearmo.com/shop/usb-to-3-3v-ttl-pin-header-cable-gm-ttl3vt/?pk_campaign=googleshop&gclid=CNWak9nQ0c4CFUmRfgodxJoEjg

Totally not the FTDI one with a 25% markup.

They're not. And you need to learn to convert pounds to dollars. What I posted is $20 delivered from Amazon. The FTDI Is also $20 USD.

The Gearmo cables also have handy ex/tx lights in the USB plug.
 

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Re: Simple USB->3.3V Serial For Prototyping
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 01:48:27 pm »
Not cheap, but great cables: 

https://www.gearmo.com/shop/usb-to-3-3v-ttl-pin-header-cable-gm-ttl3vt/?pk_campaign=googleshop&gclid=CNWak9nQ0c4CFUmRfgodxJoEjg

Totally not the FTDI one with a 25% markup.

They're not. And you need to learn to convert pounds to dollars. What I posted is $20 delivered from Amazon. The FTDI Is also $20 USD.

The Gearmo cables also have handy ex/tx lights in the USB plug.

No, I don't need to learn how to deal with my own currency, which was at no point involved in the comparison.

You linked to a product at $24.95, and FTDI cables have LEDs, too!
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