Updated Pi Zero..

[hamster_nz]

There is a new Pi Zero out, with a camera connector. Better order quick if you want one...

[CJay]

There is a new Pi Zero out, with a camera connector. Better order quick if you want one...

Got  mine on order, I also managed to pick up a few of the first 'free' Zeros on the front of the magazine, they're leading useful and fulfilling lives.

[JPortici]

wanted to get one, though the 10£ shipping kinda takes away the whole point of the thing..

[linux-works]

I'm here in silicon valley and I'm not aware of any local places that stock it.  we USED to have a great microcenter store but now its a wallyworld (sigh) and MC has not come back to the bay area.

the $5 computer does not exist for most of us.  if you have to pay shipping, it kind of kills the deal, for the most part.

there are lots of small linux boards now.  and the pi STILL has a broken-by-design usb system.  I wish they'd fix that, but I don't think they can with the SoC they are using.

[westfw]

I for one am not interested in chasing what amounts to "occasional special offers" for this type of computer.
If it's not available on an ongoing basis, it gets limited interest.

[CJay]

I for one am not interested in chasing what amounts to "occasional special offers" for this type of computer.
If it's not available on an ongoing basis, it gets limited interest.

It's not a special offer, the retail price is £4 or (I think) $6 US .

Stock is only limited because it was newly released yesterday.

[crispy_tofu]

Honestly, audio would have been more useful than a camera connector... 

[westfw]

It's not a special offer, the retail price is £4 or (I think) $6 US .

Sorry.  If you announce a product (RPi Zero) that you build one run of (which sells out nearly instantly), and the product is unavailable for six months, after which you announce a replacement that's DIFFERENT (RPi Zero w/camera port) and also sells out nearly instantly, then what you have is a "special offer" and/or "advertising gimmick", and not a "product."   IMNSHO, of course.

[sleemanj]

Personally, I'm surprised that there are not *PiZero type boards cropping up on Aliexpress by now for a fiver.

[Fred27]

Just got one of the new Zeros. Not got anything planned for it. I'm going to just stick it in a drawer somewhere. If anyone wants photos of it sitting in a drawer, let me know.

[tszaboo]

Personally, I'm surprised that there are not *PiZero type boards cropping up on Aliexpress by now for a fiver.

Because chinese dont sell stuff without profit just to get media hype.
"This 5 dollar computer can change your life and find aliens"

[OZ1LQB]

Wilfred..
How big pictures ar we Allowed to post here..if you know what i mean
Claus in denmark

[Ian.M]

Just got one of the new Zeros. Not got anything planned for it. I'm going to just stick it in a drawer somewhere. If anyone wants photos of it sitting in a drawer, let me know.

Nah. Everyone here knows what that looks like. Someone will start a thread on "post a picture of your drawer of dev boards"

Better that that "Post pictures of devboards in your drawers" (Wearable computing Fanservice!)

[linux-works]

Honestly, audio would have been more useful than a camera connector... 

sata!  get me OUT of this usb nightmare with the elephant-bugged pi boards! ;(

I want sata.  just one sata2 port would make me happy.  NAS could be very nice with even just 1 jbod style port, no raid needed.

other single board computers have sata.  so far, no pi with sata yet.  huge omission.

could care less about cameras.  but storage i/o is hella important to many of us.

[Raj]

Man, that's more expensive than the "chip" for me,when shipping is included.     

[NiHaoMike]

sata!  get me OUT of this usb nightmare with the elephant-bugged pi boards! ;(

I want sata.  just one sata2 port would make me happy.  NAS could be very nice with even just 1 jbod style port, no raid needed.

other single board computers have sata.  so far, no pi with sata yet.  huge omission.

could care less about cameras.  but storage i/o is hella important to many of us.

Take a look at Pogoplug. Just under $10 and has Gigabit Ethernet and a SATA interface that's easily enabled.
http://smile.amazon.com/Pogoplug-Backup-Sharing-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B005GM1Q1O/
https://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=6040

[CJay]

sata!  get me OUT of this usb nightmare with the elephant-bugged pi boards! ;(

I want sata.  just one sata2 port would make me happy.  NAS could be very nice with even just 1 jbod style port, no raid needed.

other single board computers have sata.  so far, no pi with sata yet.  huge omission.

could care less about cameras.  but storage i/o is hella important to many of us.

Take a look at Pogoplug. Just under $10 and has Gigabit Ethernet and a SATA interface that's easily enabled.
http://smile.amazon.com/Pogoplug-Backup-Sharing-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B005GM1Q1O/
https://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=6040

Nice, I like but it's a discontinued product and it doesn't seem to be easily available outside the US.

[hamster_nz]

My Pi Zero (ordered on 16th May) has traveled the 18,723 km from Sheffield, England to my home, arriving this morning. I will be playing with it tonight I guess 

Apparently another batch will go on sale at 09:00 GMT Wednesday 25th May (about 7hr30min from now) from https://shop.pimoroni.com/collections/pi-zero if anybody else is interested in acquiring one.

[suicidaleggroll]

sata!  get me OUT of this usb nightmare with the elephant-bugged pi boards! ;(

I want sata.  just one sata2 port would make me happy.  NAS could be very nice with even just 1 jbod style port, no raid needed.

other single board computers have sata.  so far, no pi with sata yet.  huge omission.

could care less about cameras.  but storage i/o is hella important to many of us.

Take a look at Pogoplug. Just under $10 and has Gigabit Ethernet and a SATA interface that's easily enabled.
http://smile.amazon.com/Pogoplug-Backup-Sharing-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B005GM1Q1O/
https://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=6040

I have a pogoplug, it's a POS...ungodly slow with next to zero RAM, unusable for most things you might want to do with it.  I couldn't even rsync some files to it without setting up a damn swap drive.  It went in the closet within about 15 minutes of setting it up.

As far as SBCs go, I'm a big fan of the ODROID XU4 due to its raw compute power, USB 3, and gigabit ethernet, as well as the Dragonboard 410c for its awesome mix of high speed and low power and ease of integrating into other devices.

[rolycat]

It's not a special offer, the retail price is £4 or (I think) $6 US .

Sorry.  If you announce a product (RPi Zero) that you build one run of (which sells out nearly instantly), and the product is unavailable for six months, after which you announce a replacement that's DIFFERENT (RPi Zero w/camera port) and also sells out nearly instantly, then what you have is a "special offer" and/or "advertising gimmick", and not a "product."   IMNSHO, of course.

Your assumptions are wrong; consequently your not-so-humble opinion is misinformed.

They didn't build 'one run' of the first product, they built a number of batches, and while the product was only rarely in stock they were occasionally available. The 'replacement' is essentially the same item with one extra connector, and will remain in production - for $5.

[stj]

if you want SATA, look at Banana-Pi series
http://www.bananapi.org/

[rolycat]

if you want SATA, look at Banana-Pi series
http://www.bananapi.org/

The original Banana Pi vendor seems to have broken into two warring factions, SinoVoip and LeMaker - that link points to the SinoVoip website.

Of the SinoVoip products, only the original Banana Pi and the updated M1+ appear to offer native SATA, the M2 omits it completely and the M3 has a slow USB-SATA bridge. LeMaker offer a Banana Pro  which also seems to have decent SATA performance.

To further complicate matters, some people claim the Orange Pi is a copy of the Banana Pi design, while the Orange Pi designer asserts that he was paid by Foxconn to design the original Banana Pi, and both SinoVoip and LeMaker are merely the sellers 

Until the Raspberry Pi designers get around to a real Pi with onboard SATA, it might be less hassle to go with a Cubieboard

[eugenenine]

I for one am not interested in chasing what amounts to "occasional special offers" for this type of computer.
If it's not available on an ongoing basis, it gets limited interest.

It's not a special offer, the retail price is £4 or (I think) $6 US .

Stock is only limited because it was newly released yesterday.

Its actually still $5, I picked up one last week at MicroCenter.

I just have t find a cheap miniHDMI now, I have micro and full size, I don't know why they would choose the mid sized one.

[rolycat]

I for one am not interested in chasing what amounts to "occasional special offers" for this type of computer.
If it's not available on an ongoing basis, it gets limited interest.

It's not a special offer, the retail price is £4 or (I think) $6 US .

Stock is only limited because it was newly released yesterday.

Its actually still $5, I picked up one last week at MicroCenter.

I just have t find a cheap miniHDMI now, I have micro and full size, I don't know why they would choose the mid sized one.

Amazon have a decent one for under $2.

[eugenenine]

Amazon have a decent one for under $2.

But then I have to order $48 of other stuff to get free shipping

[CJay]

Amazon have a decent one for under $2.

But then I have to order $48 of other stuff to get free shipping

I bought the adapters I use with mine for about £1 inc. shipping from eBay, recently one of the local £bargain stores have started selling them, might be worth checking a diollar store if you have one nearby.   

[eugenenine]

It was more of a rant about using the odd size than not being able to get one.  The rest of the world uses regular HDMI or micro so why make a new product using the odd size no one else uses.  Unless maybe they got a bunch of miniHDMI ports on clearance for really cheap

[NiHaoMike]

I have a pogoplug, it's a POS...ungodly slow with next to zero RAM, unusable for most things you might want to do with it.  I couldn't even rsync some files to it without setting up a damn swap drive.  It went in the closet within about 15 minutes of setting it up.

As far as SBCs go, I'm a big fan of the ODROID XU4 due to its raw compute power, USB 3, and gigabit ethernet, as well as the Dragonboard 410c for its awesome mix of high speed and low power and ease of integrating into other devices.

Have you tried a distro specifically designed for small embedded systems like OpenWRT? 128MB of RAM is actually a lot for an OpenWRT device. I have a Pogoplug (modded with a second Gigabit NIC) running OpenWRT as my main router and barely even 1/4 of the RAM is in use despite being on a rather busy network.

Arch is indeed a bit resource heavy but even that has its uses. I have another Pogoplug running Arch that supervises an "experimental" altcoin mining machine. All it does is run a Python script to regularly check if the miner is working properly and restart it if it isn't. A bit of a kludge but it's the difference between a setup that I can just leave under my desk mining altcoins and a miner that needs too much attention to be worth running.

[eugenenine]

Thats why Slackware is going on mine, it will run on just about anything.

[CJay]

It was more of a rant about using the odd size than not being able to get one.  The rest of the world uses regular HDMI or micro so why make a new product using the odd size no one else uses.  Unless maybe they got a bunch of miniHDMI ports on clearance for really cheap

Fair point, I have a couple of Android tablets that have the smaller connector and the rest of my 'stuff' uses regular HDMI so it was a bit annoying to find I had to buy yet another adapter to use a 'standard' connector  but as someone more famous than I once said, the nice thing about standards is there are so many to choose from.