Author Topic: What IDE are you using ? (Read 15003 times)

anishkgt · « **on:** November 23, 2018, 04:17:25 pm »

Hello All,

What IDE is everyone using.

I am trying to use the Atom which can support the arduino code unfortunately it does not seem to be working for me. Has anyone been successful with it ? Steps to it are available but they don't seem to be straight forward for beginners like myself.

HB9EVI · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2018, 04:19:44 pm »

a recurring question

I use Eclipse for most purposes; sometimes also Code::Blocks, mostly for AVR programming

anishkgt · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2018, 04:22:15 pm »

I use arduino most of the time hence looking for something like Atom. I would love to get it to work, if i can again.

HB9EVI · « **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2018, 04:38:33 pm »

afaik Eclipse supports Arduino; don't know Atom nor do I use Arduino, so cannot compare

Siwastaja · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2018, 10:57:23 pm »

No IDE. No need. Text editor + make = quick and productive workflow for me. Every time I find myself needing some "IDE features" I recognize I'm writing total crap and need to get my shit together.

anishkgt · « **Reply #5 on:** November 23, 2018, 10:59:20 pm »

Just got atom to work with arduino. I prefer the arduino IDE but with long codes it is very frustrating to move back and forth.

Www.Georgehobby.wordpress.com

Equipments: DSO104z, Hakko FX888D, Brymen BM869s

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

netdudeuk · « **Reply #6 on:** November 23, 2018, 11:02:05 pm »

VSCode with PlatformIO

lucazader · « **Reply #7 on:** November 23, 2018, 11:12:44 pm »

VScode + gcc on top of linux.
Powerful and free.

Side note: If anyone here has a decent size codebase that is built using gcc and are currently using windows, try the same compliation on any linux distro (not in a virtual machine though!). You will find it will compile 2x faster or more. just my 2c on why the ntfs file system needs replacing.

newbrain · « **Reply #8 on:** November 23, 2018, 11:23:55 pm »

I use two, depending on what I am doing.

The first one is Visual Studio Community, free as in beer, together with the non-free (but reasonably priced) VisualGDB add-on.
VS is definitely a powerful and mostly intuitive IDE, VGDB supports a wide variety of MCUs (it's not difficult to add your own, if really needed) and just works for my projects.

The other one is rather an advanced editor with compilation and debug support than a full IDE: Visual Studio Code.
It is free and Open Source-ish (eh, still Microsoft...), multi platform, able to run in WSL and (still) quite fast, well integrated with git, has lots of handy extensions and developers that listen to the users.
It has replaced Emacs in most of my day-to-day edit tasks, even at work: that's quite a feat for me (sorry RMS)!.

Both IDEs support bare metal AVRs and Arduino: VS via VisualGDB or the non-totally-free "Visual Micro" extension, and VS Code via the "Arduino" extension (MIT license).
I sometimes use AVRs, but never Arduino, so I cannot vouch for the quality of these extensions.

Eclipse, I try to keep at a distance. I find it cranky and poorly refined, slow and confusing.
As a cherry on top: I cannot understand how it's possible to have a bodged dark theme in 2018...
But, TBH, I mostly tried some of the vendor supplied Eclipse based IDEs (TrueStudio, MCUxpresso), not the bare-bone Eclipse with the just needed plug-ins.

HB9EVI · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2018, 11:29:37 pm »

yea, Eclipse is really slow and often not responsive enough, specially on not too recent computers.

often I catch myself stucking in vi or emacs; but at the latest for compiling/linking I realize it, since I hate to write makefiles.

newbrain · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2018, 11:38:05 pm »

Quote from: lucazader on November 23, 2018, 11:12:44 pm

Side note: If anyone here has a decent size codebase that is built using gcc and are currently using windows, try the same compliation on any linux distro (not in a virtual machine though!). You will find it will compile 2x faster or more. just my 2c on why the ntfs file system needs replacing.

(OT) Try disabling the anti-virus: most of the slowness seems to be due to that in WSL (I'm not advising to leave it disabled, just for comparison).
But then, being able to run 95% of my linux stuff (even with X11) without firing a VM or connecting to a real one is really nice.

anishkgt · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2018, 11:52:28 pm »

Quote from: newbrain on November 23, 2018, 11:23:55 pm

I use two, depending on what I am doing.

The first one is Visual Studio Community, free as in beer, together with the non-free (but reasonably priced) VisualGDB add-on.
VS is definitely a powerful and mostly intuitive IDE, VGDB supports a wide variety of MCUs (it's not difficult to add your own, if really needed) and just works for my projects.

The other one is rather an advanced editor with compilation and debug support than a full IDE: Visual Studio Code.
It is free and Open Source-ish (eh, still Microsoft...), multi platform, able to run in WSL and (still) quite fast, well integrated with git, has lots of handy extensions and developers that listen to the users.
It has replaced Emacs in most of my day-to-day edit tasks, even at work: that's quite a feat for me (sorry RMS)!.

Both IDEs support bare metal AVRs and Arduino: VS via VisualGDB or the non-totally-free "Visual Micro" extension, and VS Code via the "Arduino" extension (MIT license).
I sometimes use AVRs, but never Arduino, so I cannot vouch for the quality of these extensions.

Eclipse, I try to keep at a distance. I find it cranky and poorly refined, slow and confusing.
As a cherry on top: I cannot understand how it's possible to have a bodged dark theme in 2018...
But, TBH, I mostly tried some of the vendor supplied Eclipse based IDEs (TrueStudio, MCUxpresso), not the bare-bone Eclipse with the just needed plug-ins.

This is just a hobby for me so am not so much into hard core coding. I’ve used sublime, atom and MS visual code of all I find MS visual code to be more user friendly but I lost it since I could not configure it. Hence now with atom.

I like to see my code easy to read and manage. One thing I miss from the arduino IDE is that when compiling it takes you to the line that has the error unlike Atom. Sublime has it too.

Www.Georgehobby.wordpress.com

Equipments: DSO104z, Hakko FX888D, Brymen BM869s

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

brucehoult · « **Reply #12 on:** November 24, 2018, 12:13:15 am »

emacs.

I used a *lot* of IDEs in the 80s and early 90s: THINK C, Think Pascal, MPW, CodeWarrior, even Visual Studio. Then in 1997 I learned emacs and since then I use it pretty much exclusively.

It's available on Windows and Mac as well as any Unix/Linux, plus you get to use the same editor on a machine 10000 km away as on your local desktop, using just ssh not some slow and clunky and bandwidth-sucking remote desktop software.

cncjerry · « **Reply #13 on:** November 24, 2018, 05:49:20 am »

Eclipse and/or AC6 from Openstm32.org. The compiler is slow and the rebuild builds everything again on a whim.

Jerry

technix · « **Reply #14 on:** November 24, 2018, 01:48:23 pm »

Stock Eclipse CDT for ARM work and Linux-specific work, Xcode for general UNIX, macOS and iOS, Simplicity Studio for generic 8051 work.

NorthGuy · « **Reply #15 on:** November 24, 2018, 01:53:19 pm »

I use a simple text editor where I can. If I decide to adopt new toolchain, I add code to invoke appropriate compilers when I press F9. It's universal approach.

knapik · « **Reply #16 on:** November 24, 2018, 03:17:47 pm »

Emacs, and I'm too used to its wonky keybindings that I don't think I can ever change.

diyaudio · « **Reply #17 on:** November 24, 2018, 03:33:37 pm »

Keil to compile and debug. VisualStudio Code to format, search basically manage code.

ali_asadzadeh · « **Reply #18 on:** November 24, 2018, 08:14:36 pm »

VSCode is the way to go

dmills · « **Reply #19 on:** November 24, 2018, 09:05:29 pm »

Vi plus scripting language of choice.

Regards, Dan.

kfnight · « **Reply #20 on:** November 24, 2018, 10:29:01 pm »

I use Notepad++ in Windows for editing and then do compilation / simulation in a RHEL VM.

brucehoult · « **Reply #21 on:** November 25, 2018, 01:22:01 am »

Quote from: ali_asadzadeh on November 24, 2018, 08:14:36 pm

VSCode is the way to go

VSCode is three years old. Some of us have been programming for 40 years. Ok, VSCode is hot now, but will it still be the hot thing in even 10 years? Doubtful.

Dubbie · « **Reply #22 on:** November 25, 2018, 01:28:56 am »

Visual studio community + VisualGDB for me.
Nice combo that reduces toolchain related head scratching and time wasting. I really like the debugger too.

tablatronix · « **Reply #23 on:** November 25, 2018, 01:37:00 am »

Mostly sublime text and deviot(platformio plugin by gepd) not the best but lightweight, cant stand bloated ides. But I am going to have to find something more advanced with gdb etc

Whales · « **Reply #24 on:** November 25, 2018, 02:27:04 am »

General thoughts on IDEs

I don't like the lock in. One of the most important things for me is knowing that my projects can quickly be taken over by other people without needing special software. The other is knowing they can still do this ten years down the track, without needing a period PC with period software.

I tried following some IDE tutorials when I first started programming. The IDEs had always changed so much that the tuts were useless and I ended up horribly confused.

Simple text editors on the other hand: interchangeable, they're much simpler for both newbies and professionals alike, and I expect they will still exist 100 years from now.

On Linux: Geany. It's a text editor with some IDE-like features, but everything is optional and it doesn't dump "project" config files all over your folders.

I then use an appropriate toolchain (SDCC, stcgal, avrgcc, avrdude, gcc, etc) to get code where I need to go. I tend to throw the commands into a short shell script and keep that with the project, so I know how to recompile and burn the code later. I've found this is even useful for Windows users, because if they can't run the shell script then it's now a documentation plaintext file

(On that note: please don't use complex build setups. If your code cannot be compiled and installed in a few short lines of shell/batch then you need to reconsider your perspective on life. Don't write another chrome.)

On Windows: Notepad2. It's like the built-in notepad, but with syntax highlighting and support for LF line endings.


EEVblog Main Site	EEVblog on Youtube	EEVblog on Twitter	EEVblog on Facebook	EEVblog on Odysee

Author Topic: What IDE are you using ? (Read 15003 times)

Share me