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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #100 on: August 24, 2013, 04:26:47 am »
Since I had a youtube video pulled once because a muffled song being played in a public place was detected by youtube, you'd think they would have some method of locating duplicate content on their site.... Or some kind of invisible watermarking technology.... You'd think...

They do.
I can't re-upload the same video with a different filename and title etc, once done processing it tells me that it has detected it's a duplicate video.

I wonder how they get around it then?  I know some people mirror image videos to get past filters but they don't appear to have done that. Probably something sneaky like cropping 1 or 2 % off.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #101 on: August 24, 2013, 04:47:07 am »
@Dave - This completely sucks man. There are a few ways around it.

First, you can submit via email a free-form DMCA takedown notice which simply lists all of the URLs as offending. A simple script should easily extract all of the URLs for you. This should result in ALL of them being taken down. What must be included in the takedown notice and where to submit it

Secondly, you tried joining YouTubes ContentID program? It would allow you a degree of protection (you can block, monetize or track copies of your videos) and would make managing your copyrights easier. You could allow people to make copys of your video for "safe keeping" while you still earn the money for the views.






OK as to the posts about Intellectual Property. Forgive me if this is long winded and a bit convoluted. I write like I speak, which is not always a good thing. I have tried to edit this to make sense.

You chose a bad example with the Salae. Reverse Engineering of a circuit has long been protected. Now I'm not the most devout legal scholar but from what I remember legally a schematic is simply how a bunch of parts are hooked up. You can protect it with patents, if it performs a novel function or does it in a novel way, but you don't get to protect it as a design. The board layout on the other hand is a DESIGN generated from your schematic. From what I remember, it typically can be protected under copyright and some other laws (there are some restriction based on obviousness, simplicity, necessity, etc.). This means that legally they can't copy the board layout but they can certainly copy the schematic and modify as desired and/or generate their own "schematically identical" but physically different board. Sorry that is a really badly worded sentence but I hope the point comes across. Note, there are a variety of reasons that reverse engineering has been protected (including encouraging interoperabilty, allowing people to improve on designs, etc.). All of these are valid reasons to reverse engineer.

Additionally, they made one ENORMOUSLY stupid blunder. They didn't even store the firmware on the board. Just some unencrypted product and manufacturer IDs. Copyright is legally a very great way to protect your designs. If they had stored the firmware on the board, you could reverse engineer the board all you want but it won't matter. You can't legally copy that firmware too. That firmware is protected under copyright. If they didn't store the firmware on board what did they do instead? They have the software send the firmware to the board over USB. So the software looks for any connected device matching its required hardware and requests the EEPROM values. These values are not copy-protected in any way and by themselves are not copyrightable. So anyone can program them into a matching EEPROM on "schematically identical" hardware. The software then sends the firmware to the device.  In a nutshell, Saleae's software infringes their own copyright. Obviously, this is a logically incongruous statement. As a result, its not an infringement at all, it's just bad design. Basically, you like it or you don't like it, they screwed themselves and as such they are paying for it unfortunately.

As is often the case, ethically, its a much grayer area. They invested a lot of time and energy into this project. Investing time, energy and money don't mean you deserve a reward though. A lot of time, energy and money go into the scientific research of natural phenomena. These don't deserve patent or any other IP protection.

Lastly, to address your comment. IP infringement is NOT stealing, it is not theft, legally it is infringement and only that. When I make a copy of a song the person I copied the song from has not lost their song. In order for something to be theft or stealing, you have to deprive someone of the use or possession of said item. Now this doesn't mean IP infringement isn't bad, it is. It just is NOT theft and it is COMPLETELY wrong to try to equate the two. They are NOT the same thing EVER. Just because someone is deprived of the POTENTIAL to earn money does not mean you stole money from them in the legal sense. They had not earned(possessed) that money yet and as such any money mentioned is figurative and/or speculative. This does not mean that they were not harmed, their intellectual property rights were infringed. As such they WERE harmed, just they were not STOLEN from. You may want to try to use theft to emphasize your point but doing so is wrong. Just as there is a difference between justifiable homicide, manslaughter and murder. In all cases someone is dead but in all three there are details which make all the difference in the world.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #102 on: August 24, 2013, 04:48:47 am »

I wonder how they get around it then?  I know some people mirror image videos to get past filters but they don't appear to have done that. Probably something sneaky like cropping 1 or 2 % off.

Sometimes (but not always) reencoding can be enough to confuse the filters. Let alone, reencoding at a fractionally different speed or slightly different resolution (say 1pixel in each direction).
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #103 on: August 24, 2013, 04:56:45 am »
Ok, just for fun I created a script, which files a complaint to any video of this user, which starts with "EEVblog " in the title:

http://pastebin.com/7bZZumXz

More than 10 lines, but not much. You have to install Python first, then the client library, as described here:

https://developers.google.com/gdata/articles/python_client_lib

Then register the client_id and get a Google developer key, as described in the script and run it.

I've already tried it, but unfortunately after the 3rd complaint, I get the error "too_many_recent_calls". Maybe increase the sleep-time in the printEntryDetailsAndComplain function, and adjust eevblog_start_index for subsequent runs of the script.

The Python API is nice and can be used for other things as well, e.g. automatically create a webpage with links to all your videos. I don't get the "too many recent calls" failure when I just query all videos (commenting the AddComplaint and sleep function call). Looks like the quota is related to specific function calls.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #104 on: August 24, 2013, 05:10:22 am »
Ok, just for fun I created a script, which files a complaint to any video of this user, which starts with "EEVblog " in the title:

http://pastebin.com/7bZZumXz

More than 10 lines, but not much. You have to install Python first, then the client library, as described here:

https://developers.google.com/gdata/articles/python_client_lib

Then register the client_id and get a Google developer key, as described in the script and run it.

I've already tried it, but unfortunately after the 3rd complaint, I get the error "too_many_recent_calls". Maybe increase the sleep-time in the printEntryDetailsAndComplain function, and adjust eevblog_start_index for subsequent runs of the script.

The Python API is nice and can be used for other things as well, e.g. automatically create a webpage with links to all your videos. I don't get the "too many recent calls" failure when I just query all videos (commenting the AddComplaint and sleep function call). Looks like the quota is related to specific function calls.

Just generating a list of URLs would be useful as you can email Youtube a Takedown notice with a list of URLs in it. I think THIS would be the fastest method. Much faster than their forms.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #105 on: August 24, 2013, 05:24:18 am »
Just generating a list of URLs would be useful as you can email Youtube a Takedown notice with a list of URLs in it. I think THIS would be the fastest method. Much faster than their forms.
You are right. Below is the output of my script without calling the complaint function and without the index. There are 196 videos. The Youtube search function says 390, because of different titles, e.g. the Youtube search finds "Fluke CNX Contest Announcement", too. But I guess this would be a good start to take down the whole channel.
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id: T5FRyTr1iV8, title: EEVblog #231   2011
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Offline PedroDaGr8

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #106 on: August 24, 2013, 05:30:36 am »
Well done frank. Hopefully, Dave see's this. It would be childs play to take that data, covert the ID's into
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxxxxxxxxxx url's, where the x's are the ID, (youtube requires the links in this format) and send the email. Much easier than those damn forms. Thank's for your work.


LOL: had to put that url in code blocks because otherwise the forum thinks I'm trying to link to an actual video.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #107 on: August 24, 2013, 06:35:07 am »
Wow - some of you guys can argue about anything.  :scared:

It's totally legit to buy a saleae clone.  It's stealing to use the saleae software with it.  It's right in the end-user agreement.

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The Saleae Software may not be operated in conjunction with logic analyzer devices which are not manufactured by Saleae LLC.

But comparing that to people stealing Dave's videos is crazy.

BTW Dave, I'd look into getting your videos into the copyright infringement ID program on youtube - just like the TV/Movie/record labels do.   No clue how to do that - or even if they do that for a small guy like yourself.

Looks like if you start on this page, there is a link to sign up:  https://www.youtube.com/yt/copyright/content-verification-program.html

Hope that helps.

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #108 on: August 24, 2013, 07:00:18 am »
BTW Dave, I'd look into getting your videos into the copyright infringement ID program on youtube - just like the TV/Movie/record labels do.   No clue how to do that - or even if they do that for a small guy like yourself.

So few people rip off my videos, I'd actually feel a bit bad clogging up the content ID verification system with every one my new videos.
 

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #109 on: August 24, 2013, 07:01:53 am »
Feeling bad after the ignorant canned reply of Google on your reports?
 

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« Reply #110 on: August 24, 2013, 07:14:27 am »
Feeling bad after the ignorant canned reply of Google on your reports?

No, why?
That's how they work, everything is automated.
They are taking down videos via the copyright complaint form just fine.
 

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« Reply #111 on: August 24, 2013, 07:18:22 am »
What I was trying to comment on is that you feel bad about clogging their verification system. If I'd get a reply from them that they don't see any problems with the bogus channel, I would not be that worried about clogging their verification system.
 

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #112 on: August 24, 2013, 07:22:27 am »
What I was trying to comment on is that you feel bad about clogging their verification system. If I'd get a reply from them that they don't see any problems with the bogus channel, I would not be that worried about clogging their verification system.

Well, you see, I'm a content producer. That means every time I upload a video it has to get checked against all these other videos in the ID content system. That takes time, and will only get longer and longer the more people add content to that system.
Imagine if every youtuber put their tinpot cat video on the content ID system...
 

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« Reply #113 on: August 24, 2013, 07:28:49 am »
Hehe, I just did that this morning :) . As a result of this thread, and the advise that was given here, I wanted to see how that ID system works. So I checked that box. The only thing that happened was that Google wanted to check my account with my mobile phone number - and that the content verification id on my channel is now green.
 

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #114 on: August 24, 2013, 07:35:59 am »

Well, you see, I'm a content producer. That means every time I upload a video it has to get checked against all these other videos in the ID content system. That takes time, and will only get longer and longer the more people add content to that system.
Imagine if every youtuber put their tinpot cat video on the content ID system...

I think it's only for content producers/partners.  Youtube has some crazy algorithm to do it.  No cats involved.

What would really suck is if he turned on content protection for his channel, and that in turn deleted all your videos.  That's what would suck.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #115 on: August 24, 2013, 08:16:02 am »
Well, you see, I'm a content producer. That means every time I upload a video it has to get checked against all these other videos in the ID content system. That takes time, and will only get longer and longer the more people add content to that system.
Imagine if every youtuber put their tinpot cat video on the content ID system...
I guess they do some clever fingerprinting on it before searching. The duplicate function you found might even work already for all of their videos. And they don't need much time to scan all 50e9 webpages when I search something at google.com :)
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #116 on: August 24, 2013, 10:05:56 am »
strange question, but what happens if this other person tries to (and gets  :o ) content protection on the content that they upload?

I foresee nightmares ahead...

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #117 on: August 24, 2013, 10:10:28 am »
I would expect youtube to honour the person who first uploaded the video.

It would only get tricky if someone got hold of your content before you uploaded it yourself.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #118 on: August 24, 2013, 12:13:07 pm »
, but what happens if this other person tries to

Read above.

I would expect youtube to honour the person who first uploaded the video.

I would hope so too.  But youtube doesn't care about Dave.  He's a fraction of a dot of their revenue stream.

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #119 on: August 24, 2013, 12:43:01 pm »
Imagine if every youtuber put their tinpot cat video on the content ID system...

Given Google is involved and their expertise with 'big data' I doubt there is much slow down.

My guess is they generate some type of 'fingerprint' when a video is uploaded with enough information to allow grading similarities. The fingerprint can be generated on the fly as the file is received with very little overhead. Then a query of the fingerprint database kicks out any 'duplicates'.

Even with billions of videos the match time is trivial. As an example, Googling 'EEVblog' produces 735,000 results in 0.29 seconds. Searching for those 7 bytes against all the data Google crawls thru (Google, Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook alone store at least 1,200 petabytes) makes such a fingerprint search insignificant.
 

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #120 on: August 24, 2013, 01:01:58 pm »
Just spotted 3 of my vids re-uploaded - the copyright form has an "add another video" box to report multiple vids on one form
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #121 on: August 24, 2013, 01:07:20 pm »
Seems he is going at it in alphabetical order.
 

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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #122 on: August 24, 2013, 01:34:49 pm »
What if someone would make a little script that finds the video posted from that clackley dude and posts a comment. 'This video is a ripoff ! The real video is here :<real url>'

If every eevblogger runs that script then all these videos will have thousands of comments stating they are a ripoff ....

That would blast clakley to shreds very quickly, no ?



And what that sallae had to do in this thread i have no clue. I've seen many topics about sally clones and most of them contain at least one post that says : get the real one. The clones are inferior and it ain't nice toward the salae developers biling them out of their reward for their development.

As for the legality of all that stuff, that's a different can of worms. Copying video or music or software is copyright infringement. Copying hardware... Well .. Schematics are not protected. Pcb and ic layouts ARE protected ! A technique can be protected by patent.
You can perfectly clone the sally hardware .. Just can't use it with their software.... The software has an eula that explicitly states that. End of story. It is up to every individual to decide if he will abide by the eula or not. Hardware can be ripped apart and discussed. Perfectly legal.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #123 on: August 24, 2013, 03:40:31 pm »
What if someone would make a little script that finds the video posted from that clackley dude and posts a comment. 'This video is a ripoff ! The real video is here :<real url>'

The few I checked had the comments turned off.
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Re: 226 of my videos copied
« Reply #124 on: August 24, 2013, 04:11:47 pm »
The channel that had copies of 3 of my vids (amongst what I assume were copies of others) has now been terminated
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