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Offline AF6LJ

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2015, 09:13:35 am »
SO I have to ask....
Why was the forum and the EEV website down for a couple of hours and a half?????

Sorry, but I'd rather not say publicly.
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2015, 09:22:18 am »
all the chatter on the Siglent disaster thread overloaded the poor server, overheated the processors, and caused it to smoke  :scared: :scared: :scared:     :-DD At least the halon worked
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2015, 09:25:27 am »
all the chatter on the Siglent disaster thread overloaded the poor server, overheated the processors, and caused it to smoke  :scared: :scared: :scared:     :-DD At least the halon worked

I was thinking the load placed on the server caused the three hamsters to overwork themselves resulting in two of them having heart attacks and Dave explaining it all to PETA before running to the pet store to pick up three more. 
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2015, 09:36:56 am »
Diagnostic passed?

I wonder what the word Seppy means... is it a name? a place?
In case you hadn't seen this thread:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/who-is-seppy/

Right... thanks!  ;D

SO I have to ask....
Why was the forum and the EEV website down for a couple of hours and a half?????

Sorry, but I'd rather not say publicly.
No Problem, That's Cool.  8)
Is it? If it was Hostgator's fault acknowlege it. If it wasn't then why leave them exposed to unjustified criticism? Cue the conspiracy theories.
If the outage lasted several hours then it is unlikely the EEVBlog was alone in being affected if it was a HG problem. Have there been other reports of problems?

Aliens. It's always aliens.  :scared: :scared:
 

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2015, 09:47:32 am »
Is it? If it was Hostgator's fault acknowlege it.

Yes, it was Hostgaters fault. They fixed it very quickly once though once I alerted them to the screwup.
 

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2015, 09:49:21 am »
Boring. I was hoping for aliens now.
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2015, 09:50:43 am »
I have a good idea of the reason but Dave doesn't want it discussed and I can't say I blame him.

Yup.
I really do want to scream to the world what the problem was, but doing so will just invite further issues.
 

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« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2015, 09:51:01 am »
Boring. I was hoping for aliens now.

It was aliens. Tall greys to be precise.
 

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2015, 10:16:40 am »
I have a good idea of the reason but Dave doesn't want it discussed and I can't say I blame him.

Yup.
I really do want to scream to the world what the problem was, but doing so will just invite further issues.
You blame them, but I'm sure it's was beverage and keyboard experiment.
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2015, 04:14:07 pm »
It wasn't aliens it was the CIA! Got the wrong David Jones again!
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #60 on: October 24, 2015, 04:36:47 pm »
What if it was the Wikipedia editors?  :scared: :scared:
 

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2015, 04:49:20 pm »
DMCA takedown notice from China?
 

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2015, 05:36:02 pm »
You guys are really derailing this thread and I dont appreciate it.  Some people are trying to ignore around here!
 

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« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2015, 06:06:18 pm »
You guys are really derailing this thread and I dont appreciate it.  Some people are trying to ignore around here!

Yes, stay on topic!, don't make me come down with ban hammer!  ;D
 

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2015, 06:13:31 pm »
 

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2015, 07:46:27 pm »
Made me think of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/92dd8/test_post_please_ignore/

LOL the OP even got 4 months of Reddit gold.  :-DD :-DD

You guys are really derailing this thread and I dont appreciate it.  Some people are trying to ignore around here!

Yes, stay on topic!, don't make me come down with ban hammer!  ;D

don't kill me please
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2015, 08:38:38 pm »
Well, the forum went down again (finally up, yay).  :--
I wonder why it keeps getting taken down...  :'(
 

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« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2015, 08:40:38 pm »
Looking at the last post times,the forum was down for a good 8 hours.
Amazing what a permissions problem on the host can break...
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« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2015, 08:43:01 pm »
I remember Dave alluding to some DMCA issue last time it went down. This time it seems the host took all day to type a handful of commands |O
 

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« Reply #69 on: November 05, 2015, 09:17:07 pm »
Sorry folks, I would have fixed this sonner except I have been rather unwell, I was sleeping at the time Dave contacted me.

It wasnt quite that simple, HG were careful to prevent dave from fixing the problem, they also set the extended immutable and archive attributes after changing the permissions.
I have brought the forums back online, they have NO excuse for this kind of behaviour, let alone the wait in the queue to get it re-enabled.

Here is what they did:

992 2015-11-05 12:50:12 cd ~path/obscured
993 2015-11-05 12:50:13 chmod 0 .
994 2015-11-05 12:50:16 chattr +ia .
995 2015-11-05 12:50:23 ll
996 2015-11-05 12:50:26 chattr -ia .
997 2015-11-05 12:50:30 chmod 0750 .
998 2015-11-05 12:50:33 chmod 0 forum
999 2015-11-05 12:50:36 chattr +ia forum/

Here is my criticisim of these actions:

1) They failed to do it right the first time, they took the entire website down, how unprofessional!
2) They not only made it unreadable, they set the extended attributes so that dave could not fix it.
2) This IMO is damaging a server and I would very quickly move my services away from them, all trust gone.

Here is what I did to bring it back online...

1020 2015-11-05 20:33:18 chattr -ia forum/
1021 2015-11-05 20:33:21 chmod 740 forum/

Really HG... you have to wait for this?
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2015, 09:44:02 pm »
Description:
ls -l command is equivalent to ll command . This command is used to get detail information about files and directories in present working directory.
It shows Ownerships and Permissions of files
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« Reply #71 on: November 05, 2015, 09:44:35 pm »
'll' is an alias for 'ls -l', they just listed the directory contents.

I will leave it up to Dave to reply on the nature of the shutdown.
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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2015, 09:52:14 pm »
I would seriously make sure that the Site, Forum and DB's are all backed up to a remote service (not under Hostgators control),
Possibly even just downloading the Directories and DB Dump every hour or so, to Dave or GNIF's computer.
Then if you need to jump ship, you will still have the latest data (even if they do revoke file access), then all you have to worry about is moving the domain pointers to another host (Hopefully Hostgator are not in control of the Domain records!)

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #73 on: November 05, 2015, 10:02:03 pm »
It wasnt quite that simple, HG were careful to prevent dave from fixing the problem, they also set the extended immutable and archive attributes after changing the permissions.
I have brought the forums back online, they have NO excuse for this kind of behaviour, let alone the wait in the queue to get it re-enabled.

Thanks for fixing that. Yes, Hostgator were in no hurry to do it themselves, even when they said they would escalate it.

Turns out the marketing manager of Hostgator is a fan, so I have direct way in. I will be sending a very nasty email. Hopefully it will get escalated and we'll see what they have to say for themselves.
I understand their need to comply with a DMCA, but taking down the entire forum for complaints over a few posts it beyond acceptable.

In case you want to know what happened, the email request ended up in my spam folder, so they didn't hear back from me and shut down the whole forum after the 3 day grace period.
 

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Re: Test - IGNORE
« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2015, 10:04:05 pm »
I would seriously make sure that the Site, Forum and DB's are all backed up to a remote service (not under Hostgators control)

The entire site, forum, files, and databases are backed up daily to Amazon for the last 7 days. Plus monthly and fortnightly too just in case
 


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