Wordpress 3.0

[EEVblog]

@simon: maybe dave has bought a cake for a decent price, that the seller said it has every peanuts in it. but it turned out, it only has couple or two.

Not really, I just run a lot of websites (half a dozen), a LOT of bandwidth (streaming video from here, hundreds of thousands of hits a month), dozens of databases, 10's of thousands of files etc. So I'm pretty much taxing out what a shared server is capable of. I'm surprised it holds up at all actually!

Dave.

[avrfreaks]

thanx freak! err... avr. i just noticed, but... linux? i'm a sh*t in it! its interesting... if i register in, will you help me if i got stucked somewhere? i'm a total blind in this. and one more thing... does it provide a domain name like myname.com? i want to transfer my existing .com to this hoster.

avr, may i look at your web?

My website is www.robo-x.net, I have 3 wordpress sites, running a chat, and a complex fourm.

A. No it does not, you have to register the domain with Godaddy or another provider that does domain registration; usually it costs $6.99 for two years.
B. Yes Shafri, Also there is a limit of 1TB of space and 999 MYSQL, ect. (Like dave said above. nothing is unlimited)
C. Linux actually is faster than all the other OS, yes I would be willing to help setting up Wordpress or Joomla but I believe you should be able to customize it after it's set all up the right way. Also I been a web provider for years, you choose whats best for you; you might consider dave' s host and yes it is more expensive.....
D. If you want both the domain and the hosting to be on one bill. I suggest you you go with a provider like Dave has.
E. Yes there is eCommerce with this, all the automatic scrips can be found at:
http://www.softaculous.com/ - Looks like 144 so far.....

[Mechatrommer]

ok an update. i've manage to get control of my domain name, and subscribe to another hoster, thanx guys for your helpful advice.
as a tryout, i tried to install the "blank" (unedited) wordpress in it, but when opening the website www.soasystem.com... its still empty! need help... what next?

[avrfreaks]

Ok, It looks like you are using bisonhosting:

Step 1: Log into cpanel --->http://www.soasystem.com:2082/ , A username and password was sent to you via email.

Step 2: Find the icon under: Software + Services > Softaculous

Step 3: Find the program you want to install, and click it on the left.

Step 4: Hit Install on the right bar above the program clicked on.

Follow the rest of the directions, leaving the database alone and supply username, password and directory.

There are a few things to consider: you can find your root of your homepage under public_html - so if you inputted public_html/blog under directory it redirects to soasystem.com/blog

You can find all your files manually:
CPANEL > Files > File Manager > Webroot > hit ok.

I remove this entry if you need. Hope this helps.

[Mechatrommer]

just remove the cpanel link, port 2082 thing, i know now how to cpanel login
but leave your notes as is. so i can refer back to it.
yup, bisonhosting. you are fully responsible for this robo!
Cheers

[Mechatrommer]

oo ok, i've installed a wordpress and a gallery, some progress here , but i dont get it. Dave said, during first install, it looks like:
http://www.jeriellsworth.com/

but what i got is this:
http://www.soasystem.com = root web
http://www.soasystem.com/blog = the wordpress
http://www.soasystem.com/gallery = the gallery

they are really empty.
how do i edit from there? maybe i should download the script, modify it and re-upload?

[EEVblog]

oo ok, i've installed a wordpress and a gallery, some progress here , but i dont get it. Dave said, during first install, it looks like:
http://www.jeriellsworth.com/

but what i got is this:
http://www.soasystem.com = root web
http://www.soasystem.com/blog = the wordpress
http://www.soasystem.com/gallery = the gallery

they are really empty.
how do i edit from there? maybe i should download the script, modify it and re-upload?

Go to http://soasystem.com/blog/ and click "log in", that gets you to the admin panel.

Looks like you didn't install wordpress into your root directory, any reason for that?
If not I'd uninstall and reinstall in the root.

Dave.

[Mechatrommer]

Looks like you didn't install wordpress into your root directory, any reason for that?
If not I'd uninstall and reinstall in the root.
Dave.

in the main page, i want to have some buttons "blog", gallery", etc. many sections that the user will freely choose to go to. just like you Dave, tha main page is the videos, and then there are menu for "forum", mechandize", "about", "wiki" etc.

sorry if you have to answer kiddy questions.

[Mechatrommer]

man! i need ALOT! to catch up. any reading material on this thing? an ebook? so i can print out and read at once (hate to read from internet)

[EEVblog]

Looks like you didn't install wordpress into your root directory, any reason for that?
If not I'd uninstall and reinstall in the root.
Dave.

in the main page, i want to have some buttons "blog", gallery", etc. many sections that the user will freely choose to go to. just like you Dave, tha main page is the videos, and then there are menu for "forum", mechandize", "about", "wiki" etc.

My front page IS wordpress. The Forum and other links are just menu options (or "pages" within Wordpress).
That's how most sites like this operate.
You can do it your way, but you'll need a normal index.html page in your root folder.

Dave.

[EEVblog]

But Dave... how do you maintain the same UI of your Web "before" and "after" the Wordpress installation? what were you using? do you have to manually re-edit all those setting in Wordpress?

Go into the Admin screen and use the Backup command.
Presumably you can then restore everything after a new install, but I have not tried this.

Dave.

[avrfreaks]

This is used for all directories.
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Old Host: I am assuming you are using CPANEL...

Step 1: Create a backup with your old host first. CPANEL > Backup > Full Backup > OK - You have to wait until it is finished otherwise the file will not be there.

Step 2: Find and download the backup using File Manager. CPANEL > File Manager > ROOT > backup-xxx.tar

Install on New Host: bisonhosting

Step 3: Upload a backup: CPANEL > Backup > Full Backup > Add File should be on the right. Add the file and hit upload.

All your settings and directories from your old host will be restored.

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Now you can do it this way if you just want a particular installation only like joomla:

Step 1: Copy the folders using File Manager or FTP where the installation is located, I assume www.soasystem.com/d/ from when I last looked.

Step 2: Install the directory on the other server using FTP or File Manager. www.soasystem.com/xxx

Step 3: Now just upload the database, find the database and download it. CPANEL > Backup > Databases > joom-xxx.tar

Step 4: Now upload the database, CPANEL > Backup > Databases > upload joom-xxx.tar

You need both the files and database.....

[Mechatrommer]

i prefer the existing thread rather than creating a new one, it will keep all the previous info intact, so sorry for bumping this old thread...

just want to tell that my hoster, bisonhosting is playing kid with me, last time i remember it was 1GB space available, now its 32MB only! sent them an email yesterday asking why, still no respond... not a 24/7! so here minutes ago i think to find another hoster. my domain name is in godaddy, so i'm thinking godaddy hosting so i will not run around to find my domain and my web what do u think guys? which package should i opt for ... http://www.godaddy.com/hosting/web-hosting.aspx?ci=9009 i'm thinking economy, how about you? and also which host's OS should i use? linux or windows? i'm a windows user

[tyblu]

What are you going to be hosting?

[Mechatrommer]

just my personal stuff... mainly:

1) people's wedding and landscape/photography pictures that i took (gotta find better photo gallery/flash for this, i'm working on it)
2) info sharing to the world (about myself, my stuffs etc, nothing really fancy )
3) possibly online selling, if i can find and design an ee niche product
4) possibly foruming, cant think of any subject yet.

CMS could be a good idea, but i dont think i'm good enough at content "management" or gathering myself #3, #4 could become bigger and bigger (in term of bw and space demand etc if i have more customers, but much depends on success or failure) but this is just a start, so i prefer starting small.

[tyblu]

GoDaddy is a good match, then. I'm using one of their "Ultimate" packages (note: no package is ever unlimited, no matter what anyone says) and ended up paying somewhere between $300-$350 for half-a-dozen domain names (get the .com, .ca, .net, .org, etc...) and some other crap, good for 3 years (2.5 left). It looks like they have even better deals, now. I use the linux-type server because I'm used to UNIX commands and believe they make my life easier; it may be worth digging into the differences, as a poor interface will make you feel like crud every time you use it.

Click Products, stop staring at Jillian or Danica, click Hosting, then click "Plan Details" in either the Linux or Windows alternatives.

[GeoffS]

I pay just under $10 per month (12 month prepaid) for my webhosting. For that I get:

Unlimited bandwidth
Unlimited disk space
Unlimited email/ftp accounts
Up to 5 domains per account, unlimited subdomains

[I'm sure that there's some limit to unlimited but I don't know of anyone who's been kicked off because they've exceeded it
I think there is a limit to the maximum size of a single MySQL database of around 400MB]

The cost of a domain was on top of that but only about $22 for 2 years. Depends on the TLD you want to register under.

It's a shared server (Linux)  running under CPanel but sufficiently configured so that I've never noticed any performance issues.
It's an Australian based service but you should be able to get a similar price from a US based hosting company (someone like fatcow.com)

[tyblu]

The softaculus script, Joomla CMS, and simple WP installation is available. I don't see fantastico. Pretty standard stuff. Their site has all the details, and there are plenty.

You can use godaddy's "Hosting Control Center" if you want:
http://www.tyblu.ca/misc/godaddy_snap1.png
http://www.tyblu.ca/misc/godaddy_snap2.png

There's also the "Dashboard", which is all about making $$ (bleh). This is their "Getting Started Guide":
http://products.secureserver.net/guides/sharedhostinggsg.pdf
I didn't notice or have it when I started, so I'm not sure how it is.

There's Google Webmaster Tools, which isn't working atm (wtf). The cron manager is great if you're familiar with UNIX and your favourite language (python), and is one of the big reasons I chose the UNIX platform. This is another:
http://www.tyblu.ca/misc/godaddy_snap4.png
I'm not sure why, but I appreciate ssh access; it's not always appropriate (eg. writing WP post), but always useful.

I'm sure most if not all of this is typical of modern hosts, but it was a bit better than the competition 6 months ago. I like it. I'll take a peek at the competition again in 2013 when renewal comes around...

<edit> My sites are http://trajctrl.tyblu.ca , http://blog.tyblu.ca , and http://tyblu.ca . They are nowhere near complete, and each is just a standard WP installation. Basically just dumping content onto the server, and will organize later. (hah!)