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Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« on: March 09, 2018, 05:46:05 am »
For anyone who'd like to hear his update (and maybe give him a warm shout-out!)

 
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 06:52:03 am »
I was once a keen follower of Martin's but he lost me after R&S were kind enough to give him two very nice oscilloscopes for review with one to be given away and for all intents and purposes he did neither. He even remarked about giving the second unit to his own maker space and made little or no effort to keep the people who followed him informed, I rarely if ever criticise anybody either but this person earned it.

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2018, 07:05:31 am »
I was once a keen follower of Martin's but he lost me after R&S were kind enough to give him two very nice oscilloscopes for review with one to be given away and for all intents and purposes he did neither.

Didn't he just give one away and explain the delay or did I miss something?  I do not follow him so I do not know the details.  But I give the guy credit for trying and hanging in there.  Also I liked the way he picked the winner.
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 07:13:05 am »
I've seen some of his videos. I'll probably watch this later because, iirc, he was another one to blather on endlessly...
 

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 07:57:43 am »
one to blather on endlessly...

This is why he did not make it on my lists.  I was not sure if anyone else felt the same, so I am glad to hear that I am not alone.

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2018, 08:53:18 am »
What's with the MJL bashing?   :-//

Have some of the slammers tried to source equipment, get up to speed with it during a brief loan period, then shoot the type of informative video/s that MJL puts out?  :popcorn:

Yes, his videos could be quite long  :=\  and very DETAILED  :-+ :-+  but he always made note of that and why,

and urged viewers to either fast forward to the parts of interest, or basically "take it or leave it" 

The gent isn't piercing 5KV megohm insulation test probes into anyones skull to watch his videos    :o


FWIW A few years ago, my gear update considerations were based on watching both Youtubers Dave Jones EEVblog and Martin J. Lorton's teardowns, tests, pros and cons, thumbs up/down...you know the drill   

What points Dave may not have hit on, Martin did, and vice-versa, both reviewers pulling no punches on decent or dud gear    :clap: :clap:

Both Youtubers were/are THE 'go to' of equipment reviews before I click on to other Youtube offerings 


I could care less about 'another' scope giveaway some vendor is flogging, that may or may not have gone south for whatever reason.
If I need that scope desperately, I'll save my pennies and go buy one,
or just get over it and buy/use whatever works
...rather than suspect foul play on a competition that may not have been applicable to my country and unlikely to win anyway  :palm:   


i.e. get real and give the guy a break, it's not good form to publicly hose someone for one blunder,
'if' that was the case, which no one knows for sure 100%    :-//

 
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2018, 09:20:01 am »
I was once a keen follower of Martin's but he lost me after R&S were kind enough to give him two very nice oscilloscopes for review with one to be given away and for all intents and purposes he did neither.
Didn't he just give one away and explain the delay or did I miss something?  I do not follow him so I do not know the details.  But I give the guy credit for trying and hanging in there.  Also I liked the way he picked the winner.
Yeah - it took a while but he did give it away. I was close too - I spotted my name only 5 away from the winner on his spreadsheet.
 

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2018, 09:21:00 am »
I've seen some of his videos. I'll probably watch this later because, iirc, he was another one to blather on endlessly...

I just did a 45min review a crypto hardware wallet  ;D
 

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2018, 09:23:53 am »
I was once a keen follower of Martin's but he lost me after R&S were kind enough to give him two very nice oscilloscopes for review with one to be given away and for all intents and purposes he did neither.

Didn't he just give one away and explain the delay or did I miss something?  I do not follow him so I do not know the details.  But I give the guy credit for trying and hanging in there.  Also I liked the way he picked the winner.
Seriously? I have a bridge to sell you...

Sorry but all of that pantomime of using "photons" and dragging the competition draw a day extra because not enough was being generated and other malarky, then the spreadsheet comes out and a very brief off hand comment about how he just randomised the name order of the participants with no method revealed whatsoever. Scroll down to a name (that could be his shill) that happens to be correct number  ::)

Ok, I'm a skeptic. I just don't understand why anyone would go to such trouble to make a random seed - and then not actually use it as such.

I mean, Dave does it right - he uses a proper random number gen (EEVblog open source Wobbulator :-DD ) and live streams it. I know Dave is legit because I won one of his comps!  :-+

I do quite like Martin even if his vid's do drone on for hours. I found I could fast forward to the interesting bits. So I welcome him back and am subscribed.

But he's a house husband living on his wifes income with nothing else to do - why didn't he build that shack much sooner?   >:D
 

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2018, 09:35:19 am »
But he's a house husband living on his wifes income with nothing else to do - why didn't he build that shack much sooner?   >:D

I thought that shack was his new home...  :phew:

I should not have said blather, don't want to cause a Goldilocks complex. Perhaps his videos had a bit too much "Rigor"...  :-DD
 

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2018, 10:10:51 am »
Thanks for the update, Cliff. It'll be interesting to see what he's up to these days.
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2018, 11:22:17 am »
I've been meaning to get on to his Solar Power/Inverter videos too   :-+ 

His style caters well for newbs and the Sorta Knowalls, so they are a bit long,
but let's face it, he pretty much tries to cover all bases
which saves the viewer having to click on other related videos to fill in the blanks

DJ goes all out too, pushing the boundaries of curiosity, pointing out dumbassery, testing gear to beyond its limits blowing s*** up  ;D

Watch both DJ and MJL Youtube reviews on the Fluke 28-11   :clap: :clap:

and then compare it to Fluke's promo Youtube vids...  ::)
 
 
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2018, 11:30:10 am »
one to blather on endlessly...

This is why he did not make it on my lists.  I was not sure if anyone else felt the same, so I am glad to hear that I am not alone.

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/other-blog-specific/a/msg1341166/#msg1341166
I would submit that he be re-included (along with Marco Reps) regardless of our on the spot sentiments. I would also submit there is a point at which our opinions should be superseded by: 1) Public sentiment measured in subs count 2) Longevity of quality community contribution 3) Variety of interesting channel content 4) AFAIK, Dave never mentions this top-tier YouTuber with anything other than respect. OK sure some will take this with a grain of salt, but I ask naysayers to first review Martin's work on thermal imaging equipment.
 
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2018, 11:54:11 am »
For any YT videos that are longer than desired, try increasing the playback speed. There are many that I watch at 1.25X or 1.5X, and a few at 2.0X. It takes some getting used to, but you may be pleasantly surprised at what you're able to achieve (and how much time you save in the process).
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2018, 12:04:54 pm »
I always enjoyed Martin's videos. Glad to see him back. I like that he takes the approach of learning along with his audience. He's been receptive to criticism and has asked to be corrected by more knowledgeable viewers when he gets things wrong. He had removed some of his videos with the intention of reshooting them so as not to leave landmines of misinformation to people starting out. Seems he didn't get to do much if any of the reshooting with all the big changes happening in his life. I wish him luck and will definitely continue to watch his videos if he keeps making interesting content.
 
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2018, 12:09:53 pm »
For any YT videos that are longer than desired, try increasing the playback speed.
There are many that I watch at 1.25X or 1.5X, and a few at 2.0X.
It takes some getting used to, but you may be pleasantly surprised at what you're able to achieve (and how much time you save in the process).

yep, works great   8) 

If I'm after something particular in a 40 minute video, I hover the mouse along the Time Bar at the bottom for a      ___<-sliding mini preview popup ->___   and click on to any point I desire

It can't be easier    :-+
 

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2018, 03:48:27 pm »
I'm glad that he is back.
I've always enjoyed his content, especially the the beginner's content.

Maybe because I'm a Noob and don't have the attention span of a goldfish, I generally enjoy longer videos.

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2018, 03:59:33 pm »
What's with the MJL bashing?   :-//

I'm sorry, but bashing?

Choosing not to watch or subscribe to a vlogger is not bashing, it is just a personal choice.

I am another who chose never to watch or subscribe to MJL's videos. Reasons:

1. He spoke much too slowly and made me run videos at x2 speed just to get a normal rate of information delivery
2. He did not appear to be an expert at anything he was talking about--as far as I could tell he was learning as he went along

I tried to watch one or two of his videos and quickly gave up. I doubt I will be watching any more of his videos any time soon.
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2018, 04:34:21 pm »
1. He spoke much too slowly and made me run videos at x2 speed just to get a normal rate of information delivery

+1 , unsubscribed Martins quite while ago after he didn't make any improvements on his style and format, even though he was aware of many viewer feedbacks especially this one above as he mentioned it in one of his video.

His speech speed is way-way too slow even to non English native speaker like me. And adding to the 2nd point as IanB pointed, its becoming too boring as it feels like we're watching and accompanying him while he learned, in a really slow pace video.

As viewer, I feel the "value" I received is much less than the time spent watching him. On interesting video like new stuff, usually I rushly jumped/forwarded so many times at multiple points in his video to the information that I interested in still frame paused video, once I have enough info gathered, I stopped watching.

Other example, Syariar's is abit slow (at least for me), but his material is really densely packed with his deep knowledge and experiences, so its worth to spend watching from the beginning till the end.

Maybe its just me.  :-//
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2018, 07:33:15 pm »
I kinda liked Martin and what he was trying to do.
My problem with him is he didn't really have a grasp of the basics.
This is demonstrated  in his videos about the power supply he made and ones on his electronic load.

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2018, 08:57:28 am »
It comes across as Youtuber bashing when based on watching one or two of his many excellent videos, then passing negative or meh judgement on the lot 

His learning journey (which he always made quite clear) on some items was honest and he followed through, which is great for newbs

and I didn't mind that format on his test gear reviews, where his "learning journey" uncovered equipment hype and or flaws,
and attracted lot more useful info from Youtube comments 

I also can't see why his videos wouldn't get a no brainer seal of approval at EEVblog, which is geared for electronics EEs, hobbyists, students, newbs

and "anyone interested in electronics..." 

For example, anyone clueless or experienced alike, can learn a lot from his Insulation Testing 'learning journey' videos

and his oscilloscope ones aren't too shabby either

I will be taking his 'learning journey' soon with his solar power videos, so I don't dent my credit card in the event I go that way, and I'm no newb on that stuff.

MJL gets a thumbs up from me  :-+ :-+ 

I could care less for a bit of extra waffle on Youtube videos, he's not even in the race compared to some blabtards with their silly opening splash frames and annoying background music, if you can call it that  :palm:
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2018, 09:35:03 am »
I could care less for a bit of extra waffle on Youtube videos, he's not even in the race compared to some blabtards with their silly opening splash frames and annoying background music, if you can call it that  :palm:

It's far more difficult than it seems to deliver just the right amount of content.
 

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2018, 10:46:23 pm »
the way he's videotapping his hew home may expose him to some danger, besides the natural disaster like landslide, got eaten by mummy bear etc. rule #1, dont let strangers have a clue of your whereabout, and dont get too cocky about the place you live. fwiw...
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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2018, 12:14:26 am »
the way he's videotapping his hew home may expose him to some danger, besides the natural disaster like landslide, got eaten by mummy bear etc. rule #1, dont let strangers have a clue of your whereabout, and dont get too cocky about the place you live. fwiw...
Perhaps if he emphasizes that mommy bear is often around, strangers will prefer to stay away  ;D
 

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Re: Martin Lorton's back (and filming from Black Mountain NC)
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2018, 04:47:32 am »
"No trespassing. Beware of bear."

I like it. :-+
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