Author Topic: AN EVERLASTING BATTERY? (Read 6175 times)

Isad · « **on:** January 30, 2015, 08:42:19 pm »

Hi all

So i came across this one this day i read it and its sounded like a
total BS.It might be it might be real idk but thought this would be
interesting.

Link:http://www.mexiconewsnetwork.com/news/bat-gen/

Lightages · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:09:45 pm »

Very few details and strange promises.

Hugoneus · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:13:06 pm »

There is no detail at all. Without detail, everything looks promising!

I am a little skeptical about the 100 year claim. Are they talking about a completely closed "box" which lasts 100 years? At what power?

"For now, Bat gen can only be used to power up household appliances, but this is just the beginning, as it is planned that it can boost the engine of an electric car very soon."

I don't understand why that would be. We need more information before we can render an opinion based on science.

BlueBill · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:33:36 pm »

I call shenanigans.
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://es.pseudociencia.wikia.com/wiki/Arturo_Sol%25C3%25ADs_Herrera&prev=search

wraper · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:39:35 pm »

Plastic food jars with some black mass inside and hot glue on top. Seem to be very robust.

SL4P · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:52:09 pm »

So it consumes stuff and generates output.

Keep pouring stuff in, keep getting output for up to 100 years when the electrodes are completely fouled by waste... ?

Sounds like a fuel-cell with added waste products.

Isad · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:40:14 am »

I first was like are those thing crystal cell but they dont seem like
1 of those but if they are crystal cells then he is way behinde youtube.

I have seen people run soem puls motor for 3 year with 1 cell but 100 years
is a big promise.

EEVblog · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:15:34 am »

helius · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:19:14 am »

A battery at Oxford has been in use continuously, without recharge, since 1840:
http://www.brera.unimi.it/sisfa/atti/1996/tinazzi.html

The Oxford Bell experiment used a type of dry battery invented by Giuseppe Zamboni in 1812. It can supply a current of 1 nanoampere through an internal resistance of several gigaohms.

apelly · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:27:05 am »

Quote from: helius on January 31, 2015, 10:19:14 am

A battery at Oxford has been in use continuously, without recharge, since 1840

Read about that just the other day. Can't remember where. Slashdot maybe.

Isad · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:53:30 am »

Quote from: EEVblog on January 31, 2015, 10:15:34 am

Hahahaha

Isad · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2015, 10:56:25 am »

Quote from: helius on January 31, 2015, 10:19:14 am

A battery at Oxford has been in use continuously, without recharge, since 1840:
http://www.brera.unimi.it/sisfa/atti/1996/tinazzi.html

The Oxford Bell experiment used a type of dry battery invented by Giuseppe Zamboni in 1812. It can supply a current of 1 nanoampere through an internal resistance of several gigaohms.

Its true there are battery that can run for that long.
I have seen an i build 1 for my self and keept it for 2 years before i moved.
But common 100 years and powering a car motor thats just shenanigans and
the funny part is that mexico thinks that they have found somthing

.

PS:Pls dont get offend by anything i say i know there are Mexican members here and i respect them.

SeanB · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2015, 01:08:08 pm »

You still can make a Leclanche cell easily with air depolarising, using a thick zinc case and a very small air vent to keep evaporation low. will easily last a century at low discharge. You find old telephone batteries dating back to the 1920's that still are able to generate 1V5 into a 1M load.

SL4P · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2015, 11:57:13 pm »

For all these so-called inventions - forget about Voltage & Current
It's all about power (W)
Very very little.
... and Energy Density (a different mostly unrelated discussion)

Pjotr · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2015, 01:40:31 pm »

Quote from: Isad on January 30, 2015, 08:42:19 pm

Hi all

So i came across this one this day i read it and its sounded like a
total BS.It might be it might be real idk but thought this would be
interesting.

Link:http://www.mexiconewsnetwork.com/news/bat-gen/

Such claims have only one purpose: Fund raising!

Isad · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2015, 06:12:01 pm »

Quote from: Pjotr on February 01, 2015, 01:40:31 pm

Quote from: Isad on January 30, 2015, 08:42:19 pm
Hi all

So i came across this one this day i read it and its sounded like a
total BS.It might be it might be real idk but thought this would be
interesting.

Link:http://www.mexiconewsnetwork.com/news/bat-gen/

Such claims have only one purpose: Fund raising!

Truth and nothing but the truth.

aargee · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2015, 12:11:26 am »

http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-scientists-can-t-figure-out-how-this-single-battery-has-lasted-175-years

I like how scientists are 'too scared' to study the batteries in case they wreck their incredible run.

helius · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2015, 12:17:24 am »

Since the maximum power output of the battery is a microwatt, to last 175 years it only needs 1.5 Wh of capacity. It's even less, since current only flows while the bell is in contact with one of the poles. It could be a hundred times less.

aargee · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2015, 12:24:22 am »

I agree. The interesting thing is that the battery has not seemed to suffer from self discharge, and that little ringer seems to be going regularly/all the time.


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