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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #225 on: March 27, 2017, 05:22:00 pm »
Has there been any updates to this or did the thread starter come to their senses? Heh.
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #226 on: March 27, 2017, 09:31:10 pm »
Has there been any updates to this or did the thread starter come to their senses? Heh.

He/she keeps babbling at http://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=272439. Apparently tried to write a bare metal emulator for his/her OS. Failing that, Geri has concluded that PCs are unable to run any operating systems other than DOS, Windows and Linux because of "hardware imperialists". Then some more pseudo-political, anti-establishment drivel and more large arbitrary numbers being thrown left, right and center. I must admit I was checking this thread for some more comedic guilty pleasure but now, that it's clear to me the person has some serious mental health issues, it just doesn't feel right anymore. The whole story is kind of sad.
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #227 on: March 27, 2017, 09:44:58 pm »
Has there been any updates to this or did the thread starter come to their senses? Heh.

While this thread was active, elsewhere on the internet (it seems to have gone now), I found that on questioning by others (another forum), Geri admitted that the plan was to release the OP's opening post, across internet forums on the 1st April 2017. On purpose to apparently cause a stir etc.
I will let you draw your own conclusions on their motivations.

tl;dr
This thread may have been an early test run, for the April 1st launch date.

EDIT: Found source, please see new post below:
« Last Edit: March 27, 2017, 10:53:30 pm by MK14 »
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #228 on: March 27, 2017, 09:53:53 pm »
While this thread was active, elsewhere on the internet (it seems to have gone now), I found that on questioning by others (another forum), Geri admitted that the plan was to release the OP's opening post, across internet forums on the 1st April 2017. On purpose to apparently cause a stir etc.
I will let you draw your own conclusions on their motivations.

tl;dr
This thread may have been an early test run, for the April 1st launch date.

That would mean I've been played like a fiddle. But then again, I'm not sure if making people wonder whether you're joking or crazy counts as a successful prank... ;)

EDIT:
Now I can see how (s)he could possibly be envisioning all the "people duped into paying crypto-currency for a software for a non-existing CPU" headlines on The Register and whatnot and thinking it could actually be a good idea.
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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #229 on: March 27, 2017, 10:51:44 pm »
My post above this, was from memory.
After much digging, I found my source for the April 1st remarks.

https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1376533

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Wait, what? Is it April 1st already?

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Reply with quotePosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:00 am
CommanderJameson: originally i thinked on releasing at april 1, so people would think that is a joke, and they being shocked to see that its actually real. this will actually happen, becouse i will register it to a lot of places on april 1.
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #230 on: March 27, 2017, 11:00:04 pm »
That would mean I've been played like a fiddle. But then again, I'm not sure if making people wonder whether you're joking or crazy counts as a successful prank... ;)

EDIT:
Now I can see how (s)he could possibly be envisioning all the "people duped into paying crypto-currency for a software for a non-existing CPU" headlines on The Register and whatnot and thinking it could actually be a good idea.

I'm still not clear as to if it was to get money on the crpto-currency coins, mental health issues, viral advertising (dogbitcoin thingies), April 1st prank, or just plain old Trolling.
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #231 on: March 27, 2017, 11:45:12 pm »
Geri has concluded that PCs are unable to run any operating systems other than DOS, Windows and Linux because of "hardware imperialists"

Oh, that thread over there is a goldmine:
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basically x86 computers can only run windows, dos, and linux properly, they are not capable of hosting new operating system technologies any more - its true that platforms like x86 and arm are enemy of freedom - and thats why dawn operating system is born aniway - to take back the control from the hardware-imperialists.

So I guess we have successfully evicted a troll form here. Good job, everyone :)

EDIT: And it gets even better:
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2 billion transistors of imperialism.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2017, 11:47:55 pm by ataradov »
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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #232 on: March 27, 2017, 11:56:21 pm »
Geri has concluded that PCs are unable to run any operating systems other than DOS, Windows and Linux because of "hardware imperialists"

Oh, that thread over there is a goldmine:
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basically x86 computers can only run windows, dos, and linux properly, they are not capable of hosting new operating system technologies any more - its true that platforms like x86 and arm are enemy of freedom - and thats why dawn operating system is born aniway - to take back the control from the hardware-imperialists.

So I guess we have successfully evicted a troll form here. Good job, everyone :)

EDIT: And it gets even better:
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2 billion transistors of imperialism.

That is the most amazing thing I've ever heard.
 
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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #233 on: March 28, 2017, 12:17:21 am »
One of the "features" of this "revolutionary" OS is...wait for it...CPU Hotplug!  :-DD
Oh, transparent screens, they are a must these days, and don't forget the peer to peer wireless networking using geolocation!  All good and clever stuff!

They state it is "easy" to create hardware for this OS, yet they can't find any.  :-/O
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #234 on: March 29, 2017, 07:18:04 pm »
beenosam: was not much interesting updates recently, only minor bugfixes nd optimizations in the OS itself, that can be read on the webpage:

2017, march 29. - Optimizations and bugfix
The error line handling in compiler is improved.
Imrpovements to fix mouse and network packet losses on low rendering speed
Operating system speed is improved by 10%


2017, march 21. - Optimizations and license
A restriction is lifted from the License.
5% performance gain in GUI.

yes, i did some experiments related to create a bootable dawn-compatible emulator on x86, as someone alreday mentioned, but i am not satisfyed with the results so i made some minor optimisations for the existing emulator for now. (i have talked to someone who maybe tryes to make a bootable emu, i am not sure if he really will put the efforts in, or not)

now nothing spectacular will upcome for a while, only important bugfixes. as i find them, i fix them.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2017, 07:20:36 pm by Geri »
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #235 on: March 29, 2017, 07:46:40 pm »
My post above this, was from memory.
After much digging, I found my source for the April 1st remarks.

https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1376533

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Wait, what? Is it April 1st already?

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Reply with quotePosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:00 am
CommanderJameson: originally i thinked on releasing at april 1, so people would think that is a joke, and they being shocked to see that its actually real. this will actually happen, becouse i will register it to a lot of places on april 1.

shit, i almost forget my masterplan :o

 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #236 on: March 29, 2017, 11:52:39 pm »
shit, i almost forget my masterplan :o

Assuming that you here (Geri), and the 'Geri' over on the quoted/linked to bits, are the same 'Geri'.
Then I'm just repeating/quoting what YOU yourself actually said there.

If I'm misinterpreting it, then please feel free to explain ...
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #237 on: March 30, 2017, 12:01:35 am »
i really was forgot that i want to start a marketing campagin at april 1. i felt like days that i am actually forgotting some very important with dawn os, but it not jumped in, until i seen the quote. you are a hero.
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #238 on: March 30, 2017, 09:33:50 am »
I've tried it today, and think it is bad.
E.g. The calculator thinks 2^3 is some weird negative? number.

The project tells me to write a better Emulator, and produce the hardware for it.
(From the text file with it, attached below)

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People, please do your own emulators and hardware to run Dawn.

OP/Geri PLEASE STOP.

« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 09:50:13 am by MK14 »
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #239 on: March 30, 2017, 09:37:07 am »
We should create hardware for it, then patch the hardware to make the software work.   :palm:
 
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Dawn operating system
« Reply #240 on: March 30, 2017, 11:28:34 am »
We should create hardware for it, then patch the hardware to make the software work.   :palm:

It would be funnier to patch the hardware to *prevent* his OS from working and, instead, only allow it to boot DOS, Windows and Linux.

That would really be a fart in his soup.

50GHz of single instruction imperialism.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic; e.g., Cheez Whiz, Hot Dogs and RF.
 
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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #241 on: March 30, 2017, 12:45:16 pm »
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E.g. The calculator thinks 2^3 is some weird negative? number.

added to buglist
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #242 on: March 30, 2017, 12:56:27 pm »
I've tried it today, and think it is bad.
E.g. The calculator thinks 2^3 is some weird negative? number.

The project tells me to write a better Emulator, and produce the hardware for it.
(From the text file with it, attached below)

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People, please do your own emulators and hardware to run Dawn.

OP/Geri PLEASE STOP.

Well, 2^3 being a negative number is the actual true value. Only the creations of imperialists would ever return the value 8!
 
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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #243 on: March 30, 2017, 01:08:22 pm »
Well, 2^3 being a negative number is the actual true value. Only the creations of imperialists would ever return the value 8!

2^3 apparently gives the following answer:

 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #244 on: March 30, 2017, 04:43:47 pm »
That's one funky calculator. How do I calculate "-12345 - 56789"?
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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #245 on: March 30, 2017, 07:33:21 pm »
-the bug mk14 pointed out is fixed

ataradov, that should work fine

2017, march 30. - Various bugfix
Toolset control in paint and text editor is improved.
Bugs fixed in pow, log, exp.
Bugs fixed in calculator.
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #246 on: March 30, 2017, 07:59:26 pm »
ataradov, that should work fine
How do I enter -12345, if there is no "+/-" button? Not that it really matters.
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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #247 on: March 30, 2017, 09:19:33 pm »
simply press - before you start entering the number
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #248 on: March 30, 2017, 10:37:25 pm »
As with any minimalist system there are work arounds.  I assume large numbers are entered something like 1.234 * 10^3.  Tangent by dividing sin by cos.  Key arrangement is apparently based on the typewriter concept.  (Which made the layout terrible to slow typists down enough to avoid jambing the typebars).  Here you are forced to look, avoiding silly errors from using muscle memory.  Could only be improved by randomizing the digit arrangement.

It is features like this that really make people flock to a concept.
 

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Re: Dawn operating system
« Reply #249 on: March 31, 2017, 09:45:22 am »
Jeez, there's slow and then there's SLOW!
I don't have a slow machine, it's a decent i7, but it was *almost* as bad as using Windows ME.

I am curious, if one were to create such a beast that could run an entire single instruction to solve the world's problems, how would one get the thing to boot using the disk image(s)?
 


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