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Please help identifying a device.
« on: April 22, 2017, 03:34:58 pm »
I found this device on the street, several cars did go over it.

I checked resistance just something about 0.6Ohm, does not change with temperature as it seems.

Diode test shows both poles are equivalent.

Block is steel or nickel maybe, a magnet attaches to it. No reed contact.

Plug is 2.3mm. Two poles.

Wild guess: Some sort of antenna? Some inductive thing? But cable is not shielded...

Your guess?

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2017, 04:14:06 pm »
It might be a temperature sensor.

I onced used a 10K? thermistor based temperature sensor that had a very similar case form factor. See https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=615-1082-ND

Since your device has such a low resistance, could it be a thermocouple ?    Try measuring the open circuit voltage while having the metal case at different temperatures.
 

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2017, 04:39:37 pm »
Might be an induction loop pickup or maybe a proximity detector.
 

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2017, 04:55:43 pm »
Could be a reed contact for window/door open alarms. And yes there are NC reeds out there.

I should read the full text first...
 

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2017, 07:53:49 pm »
0V  :-// No Termocouple.

And I guess for all frequency/induction stuff one would use either symmetrically lines or at least shielding.

Reed switch i guessed first, could be always close when broken, but I guess a reed would not be in a ferromagnetic case.

Last resort would be to crack it open.

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« Last Edit: April 22, 2017, 07:56:03 pm by calli »
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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2017, 07:58:34 pm »
Bimetallic temperature switch?  It's closed now, but if it gets too hot (or maybe too cold) it snaps open.

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2017, 08:38:46 pm »
rersistance is suspicious, check it is not just a diode in there, as it will be around 0.6V one way and open circuit the other. Likely a diode temperature sensor, meant to be plugged into some controller or the other for use in air temperature measurement.
 

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2017, 09:01:51 pm »
Curious that something like that would have a consumer grade 2.3mm jack on the end, not what I would expect for an overtemperature switch. Maybe some sort of accelerometer or vibrating device/sounder?

Just a though (but these days...), hopefully it's not something that does something nasty or dramatic if you put power through it!  :-\
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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 09:17:57 pm »
Maybe a reed switch for a cheap window alarm sensor? Many of them are normally closed.
The cable doesn't look heat resistant, so I doubt it is a overtemperature sensor. Consumer grade temperature sensors are typically NTCs in 1k-100k range.
 

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2017, 08:07:51 am »
One other try from my side: A position sensor (e.g. mercury switch)?
 

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2017, 08:15:25 am »
Bimetallic: Heated it with a torch up to about 70°C nothing.

The resistance changes from 0.6Ohm to 0.8Ohm or such then....

Diode Test does not show any diode type characteristcs.

Orientation or accel does not change any resitance/continuity

Next:

- Check on Oszi component tester
- check (how) for being a active component
- send it dave as mailbag :-)
- your idea?

I am still hoping someone will recon this piece :-) Curiosity kills me...

Carsten
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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2017, 08:25:27 am »
Component tester shows a vertically line.

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2017, 03:05:46 pm »
Broke it open. Take "broke" literally. That was quite hard gunk (sp?!) inside.

What I found and broke was something looking like a reed contact. Really.... In a magnetic hull?! Still confused about this device.  :wtf:
 
Still could have been (grammar?  :o 8)) a bimetallic thingy. But Google does not find anything looking like a reed but beeing bimetallic.

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2017, 12:38:23 am »
Looks like.

Magnetic sensor, paired with a magnetic for a door/window/ect to detect closed/open state for a alarm system. Maybe missing its plastic housing that has screw mounts.

Never seen a 3.5 connector on one before tho... I would consider it a bad idea.

I can see it coming from a blister pack product at Walmart, labeled as "Easy Home Security" powered by 2 AA batteries with a piezo alarm.

Then again what do I know.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 12:47:58 am by JolyGoodDay »
w/e
 

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Re: Please help identifying a device.
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2017, 11:49:31 am »
Might be the sensor from one of those 'hotel door alarms' you used to be able to buy. How long is the cable?
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