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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1000 on: September 22, 2017, 05:25:40 PM »
Looks like the Santa Monica office of uBeam is being advertised as available for lease from January 2018. No idea if they've been funded or if the money is running out.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20498218/2210-Main-St-Santa-Monica-CA/

Some thoughts in my blog.

http://liesandstartuppr.blogspot.com/2017/09/ubeam-funded-or-on-fumes.html

 
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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1001 on: September 22, 2017, 11:22:24 PM »
I think it's Game Over for uBeamdoggle meself.  :horse:

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1002 on: September 22, 2017, 11:53:00 PM »
So, what would be the main morale of the story?

Do not ignore the 'nitpickers'?
If you have an awesome product idea that has just a teensy-weensy flaw that you can't get around, you have a problem, not a revolutionary product?
Faith and marketing alone is not enough to get over physics, economics, math and other sciences?
Essentially calling engineers and experts the oompa loompas of visionaries does not attract the best people?
Being an asshole is not the same as good leadership?

Or maybe the sad morale (or rather immorale) of the story is different:

No matter what kind of bullshit you try to sell, given good confident presentation, enough arrogance, marketing and hype, there will be people just lining up to throw money at you.
Believe it or not, pointy haired people do exist!
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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1003 on: September 23, 2017, 09:08:36 AM »
Looks like the Santa Monica office of uBeam is being advertised as available for lease from January 2018. No idea if they've been funded or if the money is running out.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20498218/2210-Main-St-Santa-Monica-CA/

Some thoughts in my blog.

http://liesandstartuppr.blogspot.com/2017/09/ubeam-funded-or-on-fumes.html

Don't they have another silicon valley office? Maybe they are consolidating there?
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1004 on: September 24, 2017, 09:30:22 AM »
I think it's Game Over for uBeamdoggle meself.  :horse:

Don't underestimate the power of belief, hope, and bamboozlement, plenty of companies keep getting funded long after you would think the plug gets pulled. Some companies are like some senior employees who seem to be able to fail upwards.

Despite what we all think here, there's still a real chance there's funding coming for them. As mentioned, it'll be clear by early next year which it is.

 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1005 on: September 24, 2017, 09:35:14 AM »
Looks like the Santa Monica office of uBeam is being advertised as available for lease from January 2018. No idea if they've been funded or if the money is running out.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20498218/2210-Main-St-Santa-Monica-CA/

Some thoughts in my blog.

http://liesandstartuppr.blogspot.com/2017/09/ubeam-funded-or-on-fumes.html

Don't they have another silicon valley office? Maybe they are consolidating there?

I don't believe there was an official announcement but they look to have closed that office, around a year after opening it. From what I could see publicly it was 8500 sqft and had 3 employees in it. None of the employees from that location are with the company anymore, as far as I can see on LinkedIn.

Rumours is - a few months after joining all employees there were given the choice of moving to Santa Monica or being let go, and they all chose to leave this most awesome of companies of the verge of world altering technology and vast wealth in the form of the shares they'd have if they stayed the standard 12 months.

So - no. (IMO)
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1006 on: September 27, 2017, 05:12:41 AM »
There's another new kid on the block:

https://www.wi-charge.com/

It charges using focused infra-red light.



Product Features

*  Automatic – the transmitter finds the devices and powers them without intervention
* Safe – complies with international standards and regulations
* Power delivery over distance – room, hall, or long-distance, per application
* Wide field of view – single transmitter can cover a room of 250 square feet
* High power – unlike “power harvesting” solutions, a Wi-Charge transmitter can deliver watts of electrical power
* Power is constant over distance – no power dissipation and 100% link efficiency
* Multiple devices can be charged simultaneously
* Scalable – additional transmitters can be placed to increase coverage, power and number of receivers
* Smart power delivery according to receiving-device parameters
* EMI-free

Looks like some sort if infra-red laser beam. If they can keep it from melting your phone and/or blinding everybody in the room then it sounds like it could possibly work. Meredith should be afraid.

(assuming they can persuade all the phone makers to sign up)

The next 2 leaps in battery technology will put an end to all this crap.  Once your cell phone charge will last 4-5 days under constant use, or for a month at a time under light use, who is going to bother with wireless charging.
And believe me, much bigger $$$ is involved in making Lithium Nitrogen and Lithium Oxygen batteries a reality...

Lithium nitrogen?  That seems...energetically unfavorable.  (Same with any other nitrogen chemistry that has N2 as a reactant)
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1007 on: September 28, 2017, 04:11:36 PM »
Confirmed, uBeam leased the space for a second office in the bay area in Q1 2016 at the latest, at 1741 Technology Drive, San Jose, CA. 8425 sqft. You can see it in the last page here:

http://www.colliersparrish.com/newsletters/sjc.all.news.Q1-16.pdf

This notes the space (Suite 260) as available from Feb 2017, likely at the end of 1 year.  As far as I know the staff were all gone from it a month or two prior. It's listed as a sublease, and was last updated about a month ago. If that's uBeam's lease they are trying to sublease, that's 9 months of probably $4 to $5 per sqft per month, so $40k per month, so $360k, to have an empty office, if that's the case.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/20199794/1741-Technology-Dr-San-Jose-CA/

The last photo here shows the three members of staff that must have rattled around in that office. I don't think any of them are left.

https://medium.com/@meredithperry/former-hp-and-tektronix-engineering-executive-larry-pendergrass-joins-ubeam-b08597f45a24





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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1008 on: September 29, 2017, 02:56:40 PM »
Don't they have another silicon valley office? Maybe they are consolidating there?

I'm going to revisit  my statement that they won't be consolidating in San Jose. I said that thinking they had already subleased that office. If, however, they are stuck in a lease there and are failing to sublease it at ~$40k a month, and the lease in Santa Monica is coming up for renewal, it may make sense to move north. In which case they'd be reopening the office less than a year after closing it (which was less than a year after opening it) and laying off all the staff. Should this be the plan, I wouldn't be surprised if the employees in SM are given a "move or you're out of a job" choice.
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1009 on: October 11, 2017, 01:21:05 AM »
There doesn't seem to have been much development over the last 3 months.
Does that prototype look like it's $20m worth.

https://twitter.com/KatieS/status/917505034857992193

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1010 on: October 11, 2017, 09:26:36 AM »
There doesn't seem to have been much development over the last 3 months.
Does that prototype look like it's $20m worth.

https://twitter.com/KatieS/status/917505034857992193

I guess that's what happens when you think that Physics dont apply to your product.
The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks.
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1011 on: October 19, 2017, 03:48:34 AM »
They're leaving it a bit late to get these things on the shelves by Xmas, - again.  :horse:

Mechanical Engineer
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Principal System Architect, Engineering
Hardware/Software Lead Design Engineer
Senior/Principal Engineer, Acoustics
Magician/Illusionist

https://ubeam-inc.workable.com/

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1012 on: October 19, 2017, 06:09:52 PM »
Magician/Illusionist

Uhuh.

(I could actually do that one... and might apply for it if I lived over there  :popcorn: )

 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1013 on: October 30, 2017, 05:34:55 PM »
The Mechanical Engineer and Engineering Dogsbody have disappeared from the recruiting website, maybe they hired someone? Looking at LinkedIn there's no newbies, but a couple more people left in the last few weeks - a mechanical engineer and a project manager. Oh, and somehow they've given prospective employees my number to call...

http://liesandstartuppr.blogspot.com/2017/10/brief-ubeam-update.html
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1014 on: October 30, 2017, 05:39:23 PM »
Principal System Architect, Engineering
Hardware/Software Lead Design Engineer
Senior/Principal Engineer, Acoustics

https://ubeam-inc.workable.com/

When you have those head lead positions available after 5 years, 30 million bucks in R&D, and countless people saying your tech won't be practical (and have the calcs to prove it) and you have no real results to defend your claims with, you are beyond screwed.
Is it even possible for investors to pull the plug and get back whatever little money is left?
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1015 on: October 30, 2017, 05:47:57 PM »
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1016 on: October 30, 2017, 09:48:08 PM »
That's so funny Paul that you're getting calls from potential new hires.  Sounds almost like internal sabotage... but most likely just incompetence.

And the video in that tweet is just so sad!  (in a "WTF were they thinking" way)
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1017 on: October 30, 2017, 10:54:44 PM »
We should set up a pool for the Top 10 list of who and what Meredith is going to blame when this wrong thing finally implodes.
Because sure as hell it won't be the impracticality of the idea.
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1018 on: October 31, 2017, 06:33:17 AM »
We should set up a pool for the Top 10 list of who and what Meredith is going to blame when this wrong thing finally implodes.
Because sure as hell it won't be the impracticality of the idea.

Oh it'll be us. By 'us' I mean that group that Meredith will describe as something like 'Engineering patriarchs who refuse to see beyond their own dogma and insist that things are impossible without trying to do them'.
Anybody got a syringe I can use to squeeze the magic smoke back into this?
 
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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1019 on: October 31, 2017, 06:37:57 AM »
Oh it'll be us. By 'us' I mean that group that Meredith will describe as something like 'Engineering patriarchs who refuse to see beyond their own dogma and insist that things are impossible without trying to do them'.
Right.  Because by the very force of our collective will, WE can actually affect the laws of natural physics so that they don't work for Meredith.  I had no idea "we" were that powerful!
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1020 on: October 31, 2017, 07:43:36 AM »
Oh it'll be us. By 'us' I mean that group that Meredith will describe as something like 'Engineering patriarchs who refuse to see beyond their own dogma and insist that things are impossible without trying to do them'.
Right.  Because by the very force of our collective will, WE can actually affect the laws of natural physics so that they don't work for Meredith.  I had no idea "we" were that powerful!

Of course 'we' are. Just ask your great uncle Aleister Crowley about the power of the will.  :)

Anybody got a syringe I can use to squeeze the magic smoke back into this?
 

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1021 on: October 31, 2017, 08:37:58 AM »
The Mechanical Engineer and Engineering Dogsbody have disappeared from the recruiting website, maybe they hired someone?

The Magician. He's still working on the illusion that charging mobiles by ultra sonics is practicable.

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Oh, and somehow they've given prospective employees my number to call...

Maybe another trick.

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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1022 on: October 31, 2017, 08:58:13 AM »
The Mechanical Engineer and Engineering Dogsbody have disappeared from the recruiting website, maybe they hired someone?

The Magician. He's still working on the illusion that charging mobiles by ultra sonics is practicable.
easy, they could just film some phones charging on a table but secretly have normal induction chargers underneath. The hipsters that back this will be like deer in headlights and have no idea.
*BZZZZZZAAAAAP*
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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1023 on: October 31, 2017, 12:14:25 PM »
The Mechanical Engineer and Engineering Dogsbody have disappeared from the recruiting website, maybe they hired someone?

The Magician. He's still working on the illusion that charging mobiles by ultra sonics is practicable.

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Oh, and somehow they've given prospective employees my number to call...

Maybe another trick.

Maybe they should team up with Airing!  :-DD
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Re: The uBeam FAQ
« Reply #1024 on: October 31, 2017, 12:33:05 PM »
Maybe they should team up with Airing!  :-DD
Maybe that is how they intend to power the Airing? 
There certainly appears to be zero space in the little enclosure for any significant amount of battery power.
 


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