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Offline Rachie5272Topic starter

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Torque sensing
« on: April 19, 2017, 10:42:23 pm »
I want to measure the static torque of a motor for a project.  There are plenty of cheap load cells out there for measuring linear force, but I can't find anything for angular force.  I've thought about using a torque wrench, but I want to read the data with a microcontroller.  Does anyone have an idea how to do this?
 

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 10:46:48 pm »
You put a torque arm on your shaft, then use the load cell to measure force at a known distance from the center of rotation.  Torque = Measured force times known distance.
 

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2017, 11:24:56 pm »
If it's just static torque connect a arm of known length to the shaft and push (or pull) at a load cell (scale) at the end.
Do some simple maths and bob is your uncle..
 

Offline Rachie5272Topic starter

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2017, 05:56:35 pm »
Ah, it makes perfect sense now.  I'll order a load cell.  Thanks!
 

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2017, 06:34:42 pm »
Consider installing the load cell on the motor mount.  If you want to measure the stall torque, you'll soon want the running torque as well.

 

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2017, 09:23:11 pm »
Stalled torque can be measured with a beam and scale.  Rotating torque can be measured with a Prony Brake and scale.  Essentially, the Prony Brake is an adjustable brake band that can be controlled while monitoring RPM.

 

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2017, 09:49:07 pm »
Rotating torque can be measured with a Prony Brake and scale.  Essentially, the Prony Brake is an adjustable brake band that can be controlled while monitoring RPM.

or like many car dynos, measure acceleration while accelerating something with a known moment of inertia
 

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2017, 04:00:57 am »
Harbor Freight has a torque wrench calibrator for $15.00 I was thinking of toying with for similar experiments, besides seeing if my old torque wrenches are honest.

I used to have a cal lab available in the past for my ancient crafstman tool, which held cal for years on end.

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 03:32:23 pm »
Harbor Freight has a torque wrench calibrator for $15.00 I was thinking of toying with for similar experiments, besides seeing if my old torque wrenches are honest.

I used to have a cal lab available in the past for my ancient crafstman tool, which held cal for years on end.

I immediately went to the Harbor Freight web site looking for this.  The closest I found was a "1/2 in drive digital torque adapter" for $31.xx.  Certainly could be used for calibration to the extent that you trust it.  I will probably get one to play with.  I have been checking the calibration on my wrenches for years using weights and a bar of known length.  Some wrenches hold well, others not so much.  An early one that proved to be shifty is what set me on the path of checking.  I can check the electronic one the same way periodically, and it will be much more convenient to use for checking the other wrenches.
 

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 09:07:59 pm »
If you don't mind a coarse resolution, you could just measure how much current the motor is drawing.  I noticed this running some servos from a bench supply, but if you measure the current going to one, you can get a basic idea of how hard it's working to hold its position.


If you wanted a real reading you'd have to characterize it yourself, but if you just need some relative sensing, it could be a real cheap option just done with a couple resistors and opamps.
 

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Re: Torque sensing
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2017, 10:15:07 pm »
Characterizing a motor is exactly what I'm trying to do.  I want to see how repeatable current measurements are.
 


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