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Hi mendip_discovery
i have not had any contact from you lately, is every thing ok
i hope all is ok,
Thanks Dave 2E0DMB

Sorry, not had a chance to get to the postoffice recently. I have it in a box ready to go. Will post it tomorrow on the way home from work.

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Programming / Re: Linux Dependency Black Hole
« Last post by tatel on Today at 05:08:19 pm »

The install of MCUXpresso was failing on "can't find Python3.8"  So one of my questions was "Why does it specifically need 3.8, when higher versions of

I've had success with some proprietary software by creating a symlink to the newer installed version in the place where the software is looking for the version that it supports. Your mileage may vary...

Yep.

But, if the vendor isn't able to do that... well, that speaks volumes
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Test Equipment / Re: CMU200
« Last post by markus_jlrb on Today at 05:07:34 pm »
How you load the  C:\NET\NET.CFG during boot?
Via Autoexec.bat?

Markus
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Test Equipment / Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Last post by Mechatrommer on Today at 05:06:40 pm »
Umm... How would you describe, say, a 170 MHz sine signal sampled at 312 MSa/s, when shown in dot mode or with linear interpolation? It would look severely misleading in my book. Sinc interpolation is not the issue here.
and you keep showing the worst case scenario to prove your point when user really fucked up trying to probe >170MHz using 4CH cluelessly. in reality we will avoid such test condition. we will turn on only 2 or 1 channel in operation. even if we have to use all 4CH, when in doubt, we can switch to 1CH to probe the suspicious high frequency signal. granted its not foolproof, thats why you have to gain knowledge and theories as you go, otherwise if you keep doing your setup example you mentioned again and again and made mistake again and again, this job is actually not for you, ymmv.

170 MHz folds back to 142 MHz in the first Nyquist zone. So it looks like you had sampled a 142 MHz sine wave.
if you really try to probe 170MHz fundamentals at 312 MSa/s really you have something wrong within you, not the scope, scope is just a tool. usually spectral content in excess of Nyquist limit are harmonics whose magnitudes are much smaller hence aliasing will not affect much the fundamentals shape, unless your circuit is oscillating unexpectedly. ymmv.

analogy is manual transmission car vs automatic transmission car. manual is not foolproof, automatic transmission is, but for some people like us, we still prefer manual and know what we are doing, and also know what we should not do. because we need performance not available in automatic cars. ymmv.
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Two hundred years ago these were made by a couple families in Lancaster UK working by lamplight and to go/no no gauges.

I rather suspect that they worked by daylight, and when it got dark they shut up shop and did something else, but that's just a guess  :)

In the days before mass production, I think every part was made by hand, even individual screws.

If you have not seen Clickspring on YouTube, he (Chris) has recently been attempting to recreate the manufacturing methods used by the ancients 3000 years ago to construct intricate mechanisms. It's fascinating what smart minds were able to do with limited resources.

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Programming / Re: Linux Dependency Black Hole
« Last post by JohanH on Today at 05:04:23 pm »

The install of MCUXpresso was failing on "can't find Python3.8"  So one of my questions was "Why does it specifically need 3.8, when higher versions of

I've had success with some proprietary software by creating a symlink to the newer installed version in the place where the software is looking for the version that it supports. Your mileage may vary...
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Rigol DHO804 Stand alone remoting application

For anyone interested, I have developed a simple WinForm application based on Cromium libraries to remotely access my DHO804 (let me know if it is compatible with other RIgol devices) without using a browser, and it has some added features:

Freely resizable
Stay on top
Autostart with windows
Auto open when the scope is detected
User definable hot-key to take screenshot directly to PC folder
Inverted colors both for live scope and-or screenshots

The files can be downloaded at https://mega.nz/folder/0nJT2DhD#rk2YJuiiPHMHbMjVQ-43tQ

I apologize for the file size that was caused by the cefsharp libraries.

2142046-0
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Test Equipment / Re: Multimeter selection for production testing
« Last post by 2N3055 on Today at 05:01:51 pm »
And to make sure people understood me correctly, problem is that if meter goes temporarily open circuit when switching between ranges. It should not but better check.
Although that can be worked around too with bypass relay that you enable relay, switch, disable relay, measure.

You would think it would be simple enough to design them so they don't, but I've seen quite a few meters that have an interruption in the current shunts when switching ranges, including the HP 34401A I just tested. It's typically a few milliseconds as relays change position--in the case of the 34401A it is a set of DPST contacts switching from one to the other.  In the OP's case, a simple bypass capacitor along with making sure to do the switching at the 100µA level should be good.

Yes, that is why I pointed out that this needs to be tested, because I also saw it on several occasions.
Not to mention when you use scanner...

As I said, it is not a deal breaker, it is easy enough to put in a bypass element (a capacitor, a scripted relay, whatnot) but you must know how it behaves.
You can even design your own shunt+switch and calibrate, measure voltage and calculate.
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Test Equipment / Re: Serial to usb on Kunkin KP184 electronic load
« Last post by interflexo on Today at 04:59:48 pm »
Hi,
No other customer complains about this. It must me hardware specific.
Does this happen with only one specific lead-acid battery or with other ones as well?
Does this happen with a Li-ion battery / LFP battery  / DC Power supply discharge tests as well? Please do some similar basic tests with your system to rule out the device being tested.
What USB to Serial adapter are you using?

Sometimes lead-acid battery internal serial busbar connections get corroded, break and show a similar behaviour.

On one of your test reports the reason for the end test was Kunkin KP184 shut the load OFF (not the software).
On these long tests the Windows system power settings should be configured to not interfere with the on going test.
Can you use an oscilloscope to trigger with a low voltage (Ex: 11V) to make sure the quick voltage dips are not real?
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Metrology / Automated PCB reverse engineering idea
« Last post by Rjc987 on Today at 04:59:10 pm »
Hey guys,
One piece of test equipment I've never seen is an automated PCB reverse engineering solution - something that could take a PCB and either through imagery or direct measurement, output a general schematic of what connects to what. there's been times when I've been very busy and get in a piece of equipment that has a convoluted board which I don't have any schematics or information about and which something like that would be a huge timesaver and a massive help when reverse engineering or diagnosing.

So I was wondering why and thinking about ways it could be done - the first idea I had was using simple pcb imagery and machine learning but the fact that traces are hidden underneath ic's and inner layers, plus perspective and lighting means bigger components are going to be blocking things, and glossy black or white solder masks make it almost impossible to get a clear image of traces etc. I feel like that might not work very well.

So how about this- just a simple, very dense bed of nails style fixture completely filled top and bottom, Connected in some matrix array allowing a continuity signal to be applied sequentially from pin to pin and record every other pin which has continuity or a resistance value. This could then be processed into a boardview type file using images of the boards with each node selectable to display all related connections. It obviously won't work with bga's etc, and it would probably work best for low to medium density PCBs but am I missing anything here? It doesn't seem like it would be that difficult of a project to me, I imagine the hardest part would be the coding. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
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