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Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:04:04 pm »
This is from Miele WKB130 WCS washing machine. Machine doesn't turn on at all.. only have red led on board that's illuminated. And 15V is coming out of primary DC-DC converter.. then there is other (i guess) which gets 15V but nothing going out (maybe enable pin is on it) after that it has 1117 regulator to 3.3v (nothing on in/out)
photo is attached if someone can identify that chip (it's sot23-6) IL3FM
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 01:26:37 pm »
I think it is L3FN with the "I" being the pin 1 marker.
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 08:36:59 am »
even with this code cant find anything.. :/
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2017, 09:10:22 am »
Desolder it and look on the bottom mark, maybe there is something there: i.e.

https://www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-IRS10752L-DS-v01_02-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d462533600a40153567308ca276d

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2017, 09:25:02 am »
on bottom is M395 and attached pcb with some annotations..
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2017, 09:36:33 am »
im thinking maybe there are some enable pin or something.. or its just problem by it self.. they made those washing machines like top secret projects :) no info at all.. + custom chip names.. that machine have 2 board.. bottom (Power board with VFD driver) and upper human interface.. upper board also gets +15V but no reaction.. visualy machines bottom had water leak.. but on board no burning / corroding signs.. and this 1117 3.3 LDO have to supply 3.3v for all controllers on power board.. which is missing..
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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2017, 10:29:23 am »
I think its a DC to DC converter, try LT1934
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 11:15:37 am »
i also think that its DC-DC converter but by your suggested part its bit different.. PIN 1 is only connected to capacitor ant capacitor goes to inductor.. other pins somehow looks ok :) maybe need to try short SHDN pin to VIN..
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 11:22:39 am »
i also think that its DC-DC converter but by your suggested part its bit different.. PIN 1 is only connected to capacitor ant capacitor goes to inductor.. other pins somehow looks ok :) maybe need to try short SHDN pin to VIN..

Try trace the circuit as per attached. What's the difference?
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 11:36:52 am »
i tryed to force SHDN pin high.. but its no like that :) power supply goes to CC .. im set it to 100mA and was hoping to see anything on output.. but nothing comes out..
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 07:25:08 pm »
I don't know I will be of much help here, but I'm quite sure it's a step-down converter. Schematics and pinout of most of these converters are consistent with the circuit on your board.
For example, check Richtek's converters, like this one.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2017, 07:49:45 pm by MichR »
 

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Re: Help identify SMD component on MIELE Washing machine
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2017, 08:00:21 pm »
Consider MPS2357 buck converter.  SMD marking code is IL3xx; last letters are case code.
 


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