Author Topic: Chinese Hakko T12 controller vs iSolder-40 vs High Frequency Stations.  (Read 32449 times)

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Offline DJMota

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Hello.
I would buy a new soldering station and would like a help to choose between these four models:

75W CHINESE HAKKO T12 CONTROLLER (With 24V PSU and FX-9501 Handle = 30€ +or-):
http://www.ebay.es/itm/271853551202?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

ISOLDER-40 (93.90 €):
http://www.incopia2.com/shop/estacion-de-soldar-inteligente-jovy-isolder40-p-6976.html

100W MLINK S4 (71.39)
http://www.satkit.com/b2c/index.php?page=pp_producto.php&md=0&ref=mlink-s4

90W BAKON BK2000A (114.90):
http://www.incopia2.com/shop/estacion-de-soldadura-bakon-bk2000a-p-10880.html

90W ATTEN AT-90DH (119€):
http://www.incopia2.com/shop/estacion-de-soldadura-atten-at90dh-p-10352.html


What is the best option in terms of performance and flexibility?
Is much difference between the different powers?
Really worth spending the money difference?

Greetings.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2015, 09:04:33 am by DJMota »
 

Offline DJMota

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128 Views and no response!  :(
Anyone can give me an opinion on those stations?
 

Offline Burnett

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I prefer the 1st choice, in china, a finished DIY T12 soldering station is only 145rmb (equal 23 us dollars), and a MIC T12 solder tip is only 2 dollars.

The chinese DIY T12 soldering station only costs 10% of the hakko fx-951, but the performence is 70% as the fx-951.

If i have a better budget, i will buy a hakko 888D, or ERSA icon nano.
 

Offline DJMota

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Thanks Burnett.
Where i can find this finished station at this price?
Greetings.
 

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I have the FX951 myself and it works great but the UI to change the temp settings is a pain. You'd need to use the card key then press a few buttons to enter the new temp. It's designed to be set in a production line and then leave it there.

I also have the old FX888 and that is easier. Just twist a knob and there you go.

I just like the very light handpiece and very fast heat up times of the FX951. Great for precision SMD work.
 

Offline Burnett

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Thanks Burnett.
Where i can find this finished station at this price?
Greetings.

I‘m in china, buy a finished station is easy. To your country, the  shipping may cost as much as the station itself. Try to search it on ebay, maybe you can find it.
why not tell me where you are, i will ask the post office about the shipping fee, maybe i can help you if you want.
 

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I have the FX951 myself and it works great but the UI to change the temp settings is a pain. You'd need to use the card key then press a few buttons to enter the new temp. It's designed to be set in a production line and then leave it there.

I also have the old FX888 and that is easier. Just twist a knob and there you go.

I just like the very light handpiece and very fast heat up times of the FX951. Great for precision SMD work.

My opinion is same with yours.
I have a FX-951 like design solding station, actually it's almost totally copyed from FX-951, the method of setting temperature is ridiculous, stupid and inefficiency.
I think it's designed for factory, using on assembly line, not very suitable for hobby useing.
But it's still a good station, and i like it.
 

Offline timofonic

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I'm from Spain too, trying to save to get some basic equipment too.

I'm bad at soldering and someone stole my JBC 30S at classroom. Anyway, I would like to someday have a soldering station, an easy way to desolder my frequent mess and easier SMD soldering.
 

Offline DJMota

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http://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/110v-220V-digital-Soldering-Iron-Station-Temperature-Controller-T12-Handle/1756394_32345223517.html
This is the less expesive unit that i have find.
Is good price?

PD: Hola compatriota malagueño. tambien buscando algo con las tres BBB (bueno, bonito y barato)?
 

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I am curious as to the fascination with T-12 tipped irons.  It seems to me that these put the very tip of the iron further away from the hand than other irons.  Isn't the idea to have the tip closer to the hand for better fine motor control of smd work?  I have a Hakko 936 but I want an FX-951 or a Thermaltronics TMT-2000 because of the quick change ability and the fact that the tip is closer to my hand means steadier soldering.  I may be off base on this so maybe someone can clue me in.  I understand that times are tough and budgets are tight, but it is better to save longer and buy a quality soldering station, especially if you are going to use it regularly.  Good isn't cheap and cheap isn't good.  I bought the 936 because that was what I as able to afford at the time and I made an effort to get the best I could afford.  I actually watched and waited and when I found a sale, I jumped on it.  Save up more money and at the least, buy the Hakko FX-888D with genuine Hakko tips.  You won't regret it.  I have used really cheap soldering irons in the past.  There is no comparison. 
Why do people who know the least know it the loudest?
 

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Looking at the Alienexpress pictures it seems they used a Dell laptop adapter inside the housing, you can still make out the Dell logo and label with CE marking.
If at first you do succeed try not to look astonished
 

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http://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/110v-220V-digital-Soldering-Iron-Station-Temperature-Controller-T12-Handle/1756394_32345223517.html
This is the less expesive unit that i have find.
Is good price?

PD: Hola compatriota malagueño. tambien buscando algo con las tres BBB (bueno, bonito y barato)?
Well, at least good enough for my awful ecomomy.

I found this project and it looks promising...

http://dangerousprototypes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=7218

PCB + Hakko T12 clone = WIN

Am I right?

He even challenges others to surpass the performance of his soldering iron driver. He's a web developer from Bulgaria.

¿Eres estudiante o aficionado? Yo estudiante de Técnico Superior en Mantenimiento Electrónico en San José, menuda mierda y no paran de mandar cosas, pero lo peor son los compañeros horribles y profesores muy poco didácticos por lo general (mala planificación, poquísima coordinación de teoría y práctica, etc). A eso le sumas que soy TDAH y demás, pues es una bomba, pero vamos tirando a marchas muy forzadas y con casi todas para junio. Siempre he estado dudando entre informática y electrónica, lo primero era más fácil con poco equipamiento, no habían plazas y volví a la electrónica (no me arrepiento para nada, aunque los habitantes de mi centro intenten con todas sus fuerzas que me de asco la tecnología con su metodología y exámenes estúpidos que a veces no aprueba un casi ingeniero, no lo conseguirán).
 

Offline DJMota

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Hello again.
If you do not show me any better, I think in the end, go for the chinese station.
Greetings.


PD:
Hola de nuevo.
Ese proyecto ya lo conocía, pero en mi caso descartado por la complejidad del mismo. Además, estando los controladores chinos, aunque no sean tan avanzados como eso y además a precio ridiculo, ni me planteo invertir horas y calentamientos de cabeza absurdos en algo así.
Soy aficionado nada más.
Saludos.
 

Offline Burnett

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http://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/110v-220V-digital-Soldering-Iron-Station-Temperature-Controller-T12-Handle/1756394_32345223517.html
This is the less expesive unit that i have find.
Is good price?

PD: Hola compatriota malagueño. tambien buscando algo con las tres BBB (bueno, bonito y barato)?

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.53.VWtPSS&id=37532724838&ns=1&abbucket=13#detail





It's a finished DIY T12 soldering station with 19V switching power supply and a modified FX-907 handle.
Not expensive, maybe a good choice for you.
 

Offline DJMota

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Thanks for your help Burnett.
In this case, is not a good option.
With 19v this station only have 50w of power.
The optimal voltage will be 24v for the maximun power of the heater (75W).
 

Offline Burnett

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Thanks for your help Burnett.
In this case, is not a good option.
With 19v this station only have 50w of power.
The optimal voltage will be 24v for the maximun power of the heater (75W).

You're welcome.
This is the 24V power veision, its price is 30% higher than the 19V version.



 

Offline igi79

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I can recommend you Atten 90DH, which I have for last 6 months. With genuine Weller 80 tips it is perfect soldering station which is much 'faster' than original Weller 80.  From 25 to 350 it heats up in about 10 seconds. It has enough buttons so programming is easy - saving temperature is like on car radio - by long press of 'station'. It allows to configure PID regulation in 3 steps - for maximum stability (SMD soldering) or maximum performance (heavy thermal mass parts). Nice features are also sleep mode and temperature calibration. The only downside is audible noise.
 


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