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 Find yourself the recipient of comments from S.O. mates or random visitors to your cave about "how do you work in this mess" or "if you cleaned up once in a while you would be able to find it"  :palm:

Not so much for those in squeaky clean cal labs or for those with an OCD complex (clearly neither group would understand) but more for those of us who fight to keep it clean once in a while  ::)

Discuss or Drop some photos here of your bench and racks, storage, jigs and tools to help keep the mess at bay. I want to know  :-+

No discussions of throwing ANYTHING out or SELLING and or BURNING is welcome here  >:D

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 06:51:22 PM »
Mmm I searched for workbench threads and it didn't turn up work-bench it seems but it wouldn't cross mine or most peoples minds to search for for a start |O

Not a fan of running parallel threads either but rather than 120 pages of show off your bench and the gear you own which it seems that thread does well. As I stated above this was more about how to keep it clean and show off the good bits of your bench which is the intention, nothing really to do with the gear.

Unless it is a gratuitous shot of my fairly new Lindstrom cutters with my bench screwdrivers in their Acrylic holder 8)

But it is about the holder really and how to keep the bench clean and your gear stowed.

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 07:16:30 PM »
Is that a coffee machine in arm's reach? And professional alcohol. Not just the kid's stuff.
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 08:20:06 PM »
That would be my 'spare' 3grp Izzo Lever coffee machine and Grinder  8)

I recently purchased a makeup holder and set of drawers too :-DD Getting in touch with my .......

I then broke out the Dremel and cut it to pieces so the vertical bits reached the bench.


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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 09:00:08 PM »
To stay on topic:

Usually I prefer to clean up the mess I made on my workbench to some extent (rather lowish standard in terms of wife, GF, boss, whatever ...) after finishing some work. The picture may give an idea of what the bench looks like a few days after cleaning up.
Too much stuff on the bench make me feel uncomfortable - because there's no space to put something in order to start working with it.
A clean desk makes me feel more uncomfortable - because it's sterile
Some things like equipment have defined places to sit, other stuff just gets stuffed into all kind of boxes, coarsely sorted by purpose. For example I've got a "power electronics junk box", it contains IGBT modules, DC-Link capacitors and related, a "heat sink" box also containing some enclosures and bigger resistors, a "big mess of cables and wiring" box (actually more than one box), an uC dev board box, ...
Smaller components are coarsely sorted into assortment boxes of various kinds (https://www.google.de/search?q=sortierkasten)

At my home lab, I've just finished to build new shelves to put all the equipment and parts and junk boxes into, moving stuff from basement to there is in progress.
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg1341145/#msg1341145
There will be some kind of workbench in front of the shelves.

One problem is common to all places I ever had for my workbench (no matter if at home or at work): Electronics stuff is like an ideal gas - it occupies all avaliable space in no time. With one major drawback: It isn't compressible like an ideal gas.

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2017, 12:15:54 AM »
Is that a coffee machine in arm's reach? And professional alcohol. Not just the kid's stuff.
Hey BF are you the same BF that's on a not snobby aussie coffee forum?
3 group izzo lever where's the drool emoji! you don't have a spare lever group hanging around that would fit a CMA boiler do you?
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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2017, 02:57:46 AM »
The trick is to find a fixed place for everything and throw away whatever is less expensive than the cost of the storage space it needs. I keep every project (hobby or professional) in a tray or container. IKEA has cheap containers and an online store.
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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2017, 07:54:57 AM »
Hey BF are you the same BF that's on a not snobby aussie coffee forum?
3 group izzo lever where's the drool emoji! you don't have a spare lever group hanging around that would fit a CMA boiler do you?

Part way into cleaning my bench but alas no spare 'unattached' Astoria lever groups were found, there may be some others apart from the Izzo however  8)
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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2017, 07:56:54 AM »
I like the Jim Williams/ Bob Pease method.  It certainly results in lots of comments from visitors but it seems mostly judging or an expression of their inner emotions so is ignored.

 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2017, 02:40:47 AM »
One problem is common to all places I ever had for my workbench (no matter if at home or at work): Electronics stuff is like an ideal gas - it occupies all avaliable space in no time. With one major drawback: It isn't compressible like an ideal gas.

I second that. The shop where I work is difficult to keep any kind of organized, I have barely managed to keep my bench workable and tidy. Nice nixie tube clock by the way, I've always liked the look of those.
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2017, 01:21:41 AM »
I'm pretty good about cleaning up the bench after a project is completed. But projects are not started and completed in serial fashion. Several are going on at once, moving in and out of the bench space. For me, that's what creates the "clog". I don't know of a good solution for it.

My ex and I used to talk about this. She had a different definition of what "being organized" meant. For her, it was visual; "everything in its place". For me, it is functional; "I know where everything is when I need it".
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2017, 06:15:48 AM »
Whenever i clean my workbench it very quickly ends up ever messier than it was before.
Organized chaos is what we call it around here, right ?  >:D
Well i don't mind being in my empire of dirt anyways.  :D
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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2017, 03:27:29 PM »
Whenever i clean my workbench it very quickly ends up ever messier than it was before.
Organized chaos is what we call it around here, right ?  >:D
Well i don't mind being in my empire of dirt anyways.  :D
The worst thing is cleaning up and suddenly being unable to find anything.
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2017, 04:05:01 PM »
Which one of you hid the lenses for my Loupe?  |O
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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2017, 04:14:55 PM »
I am glad I am not the only one... I struggle to keep my office/workshop tidy. So many pulled apart things for spares (or I just like breaking things)... tools that really should be in the shed ... not sure how my angle grinder ended up in here.
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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2017, 05:09:50 PM »
 :palm: I suffer badly :rant: Especially so as the workshop IS one of my projects :-/O
For other (normal) projects, the only way that works for me to have a per project container, even for bigger stuff. Only when a project is large, say a tube amp or a an instrument, the smaller parts goes into a bin, and that is stored with the bigger part. So when the 'other' project is worked on, this one goes into storage with its parts bin.

Things like tools have dedicated storage spaces, very minimal general tools are stored on the bench. My place is tiny, 3 x 3m (9' x 9') with to much gear, and the gear is growing  :horse:

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2017, 12:39:06 AM »
For other (normal) projects, the only way that works for me to have a per project container, even for bigger stuff.

Now that is a good idea...
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2017, 02:50:54 AM »
At work, I only clean up when a project is completed, but then everything goes. It gives me satisfaction and it makes estimating the state of a project easy. If there are dozens of Digikey boxes and Farnell envelopes, and PCBs stacked on each other scope connected to something and several stuff Wildlarized, it is obviously working well and everything is fine ;D
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2017, 04:08:20 AM »
For other (normal) projects, the only way that works for me to have a per project container, even for bigger stuff. Only when a project is large, say a tube amp or a an instrument, the smaller parts goes into a bin, and that is stored with the bigger part. So when the 'other' project is worked on, this one goes into storage with its parts bin.
For swapping projects (per project container method), another member put me onto the idea of tray racks (can't recall whom  :-[). Kinda like equipment racks; just lower the tray as much as needed for larger projects, including say an aluminum amplifier/rack enclosure. The fiberglass trays are quite strong, and if you need stronger, you can use metal (BTW, metal trays allow you to resistively ground the entire unit for ESD).

Restaurant supply shops that deal in used equipment or craigslist/kijiji/gumtree/... types of sites would be the least expensive way to get one IME. There are also benchtop types (no wheels), or those that have a table top/work surface to them. Aluminum will be less expensive than stainless (over $1k without trays new  :o).





 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2017, 04:18:36 AM »
Edit: removed pictures. I came to the conclusion I felt uncomfortable showing large portions of the inside of my house online.
Only left the drawers, because there was a question.  What can i say... I am also not a facebook or twitter person.


What do you think of this for keeping yourself tidy:

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Impossible, right. Not a real place! Fake! Staged!
That is somewhat true. Below the before pic. Still pretty good I think. Only a few minutes of cleanup.

The reason is, I moved house a few years back, and so I "designed" my creative corner, rather then have it organically grown over decades. All pre-owned furniture BTW, for pennies on the dollar, from at least 8 different owners.
And this is my "clean tinker" corner, in my home office, so I need to keep it somewhat presentable, hence the closeable cabinets. The "unclean tinker" area is in the inhouse garage, and an unused bathroom is the "warehouse"

Now, please do not think I am normally this tidy. This is all *hugely* different then my old house. I have to reprimand myself very often to cleanup.
But I came to the realization that you cannot properly work when your project are in strata of several layers thick, so I took the opportunity when I relocated to start afresh.

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2017, 03:33:15 PM »
"Premium Bananas" - great boxes to store rigol oscilloscopes. You even do not need to label the box to know what is in it.
 
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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2017, 03:33:21 AM »
cybermaus, I like those shallow drawers. Do you know where they are from or what they are called?
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2017, 03:47:20 AM »

All  of it is IKEA Effektiv series. They had that in the late 90's and early 00's but I had it all pre-owned
Only half of it is shown here, the other side of my office is indeed my office. Less drawers there though.

And alas, the shallow drawers were the hardest to collect. Most people had like 2 meter high bookshelfs with only 1 drawer unit in the middle, so to collect 9 pairs I had to make a lot of separate purchases. Even to this day I have an alert in Marktplaats (local Craigslist) that shows up when an item in this IKEA series appears.
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2017, 03:53:49 AM »
"Premium Bananas" - great boxes to store rigol oscilloscopes. You even do not need to label the box to know what is in it.

I don't really have that many Rigols though, so labeling would still be required on the boxes that don't contain Rigols
 

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Re: Keeping yourself "Nice" - workbench tidying, storage and management
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2017, 11:56:44 AM »
My tip for the month: IC tubes.

Got IC tubes sticking out everywhere with no place to put em?

The easy way to cut them to a manageable size is with a Japanese style pull saw. Mini dozuki or a dowel saw. Leaves barely any burr. Now you can fit them in a shoebox or w/e you got going on at your digs.
 


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